Leicester V King's Lynn Saturday June 7th

[justathought]

That's why i'm saying lets get the track changed and then we will see. I've heard the riders on SKY being interviewed and all you get is 'Gating is so important and we just aren't gating'

 

Please don't quote me world cups and GP's as they are a different kettle of fish altogether.

 

I said when Poole were coming that Darcy would test our track if he didn't gate and all I got was 'Oh so you have to be a world class rider to pass at BP' Well that is why he is world class you spoon because he can ride a bike.

 

Thank you for your prompt reply.

 

However, Once again I have no idea what your talking about.

 

Have a nice day.

Edited June 8, 2014 by nightshift

[TMW]

Thank you for your prompt reply.

 

However, Once again I have no idea what your talking about.

 

Have a nice day.

Cracking comeback. Can you not do better?

[justathought]

Cracking comeback. Can you not do better?

 

I'm not really here to score points or convince anyone that I'm right or they are wrong.

 

In my opinion the Leicester track does not produce decent entertainment/racing. Something is drastically wrong with it, I'm not a track expert I just pay my money and hope to enjoy the racing. I'm afraid at Leicester the enjoyment factor is very low.

 

But on the plus side it was a lovely night weather wise.

[Big Al]

I decided to have a look at things on bet365. Well, my decision not to commit any of my time and money so far this year was vindicated. In future I will probably also avoid the waste of time of watching on bet365, Leicester home matches anyway - but of course I appreciate its also quite possible to have a duff match almost anywhere now and then.

And if the match score had been close before the start of heat 15 last night, there would have been eulogies galore about what an exciting match it was etc etc. because that heat did actually give us a decent race and showed that entertainment is not all about passing. Unfortunately it was only a single match point at stake in this instance.

[TMW]

I'm not really here to score points or convince anyone that I'm right or they are wrong.

 

In my opinion the Leicester track does not produce decent entertainment/racing. Something is drastically wrong with it, I'm not a track expert I just pay my money and hope to enjoy the racing. I'm afraid at Leicester the enjoyment factor is very low.

 

But on the plus side it was a lovely night weather wise.

Same here...I just want to enjoy it but last night I admit the heats were processional but they aren't always and because the way the Leicester track is now so scrutinised to with in an inch of it's life."Lets watch Leicester and see how many passes we can count" it is spoiling my enjoyment.

 

Mads knows every inch of that track and probably knows NKI's riding style like the back of his hand of course NKI was never going to get passed him if he didn't gate

Edited June 8, 2014 by TMW

[Agrotron]

The track is crap end of, just hope SKY don't go there with there cameras blimey I don't normally turn meetings off because Speedway is Speedway but this wasn't this was crapway.

[Shirl]

The track is crap end of, just hope SKY don't go there with there cameras blimey I don't normally turn meetings off because Speedway is Speedway but this wasn't this was crapway.

You can't polish a turd?

[Agrotron]

Unreal people pay money to go watch that amazed

[robert72]

That's why i'm saying lets get the track changed and then we will see. I've heard the riders on SKY being interviewed and all you get is 'Gating is so important and we just aren't gating'

 

Please don't quote me world cups and GP's as they are a different kettle of fish altogether.

 

I said when Poole were coming that Darcy would test our track if he didn't gate and all I got was 'Oh so you have to be a world class rider to pass at BP' Well that is why he is world class you spoon because he can ride a bike.

Are you related to hemsley as you have defended his awful shaped track since it opened even though experts & the Paying public say how bad it is and needs changing you still believe like hemsley it's ok

[TMW]

Are you related to hemsley as you have defended his awful shaped track since it opened even though experts & the Paying public say how bad it is and needs changing you still believe like hemsley it's ok

I've never followed the herd and don't intend to start now

[castrolargh]

Problem was Niels wanted to start 5 yards back behind everyone else so he could get a roll at the start he did it all night & i would imagine it may have been instructions from the referee to pull him into line. But for the record the start Marshall didn't touch the rider or his wheel he just pulled him into line verbally

[/Got to disagree there, from where I was standing, just a few metres in front of the tapes, the starting marshall repeatedly touched puks front wheel in 2 consecutive races and it looked like all he was trying to do was unsettle him.quote]Well done puk for standing your ground.Start marshall, whoev er you may be, some impartiality would be nice. The races are about the riders on track , not you!

[mrcts]

Cant believe Leicester fans pay money to watch that. If I was a rider and I was 4th going into turn 1 on the first lap I would just pull up on the centre green and not bother. 15 Heats all FTG.

We go in hope rather than expectation!

Now I do want the track changing not because I don't like it but because I am sick to the back teeth of this every sunday morning. I do hope they do change it. Because lets face it Swindon on thursday night 'one of the best tracks in the country' was an absolute cracker..... wasn't it?If Iversen is doing sub 60 heats how on gods earth was anyone doing 61/62/63 going to have a 'good race' with him.Stead was able to pass why couldn't everyone else Oh that will be because Stead is an allround quality rider and 'can' pass.That will be why.Kings Lynn were far the better team on the night and thanks to Kerr packing the wrong gloves it wasn't worse.Get real !!!!

For somebody who's son rides speedway you really know nothing about the sport!

[Mimmo]

many have said that those passes that do take place are only as a result of a mistake.

 

I would hazard a guess that those in the youth championships may well be more prone to the odd mistake hence the increased passing opportunities perhaps.

You're probably quite right in what you say, so for my money, give me meetings where the competitors are going to make the odd mistake, as it's got be better than follow the leader. Having said that, the kids are better than a lot of people give them credit for, and that's why I try to see as many as their meetings as possible......at the expense of a senior meeting somewhere I might add.

Is it anything to do with the boys going slower and just taking their chance at a pass when it arises, through a mistake or wrong line etc? Whereas the senior riders need to build up to executing a pass and weigh up the pros and cons of doing so as they rarely make mistakes? Not sure if I'm making myself clear there lol?

 

Re our prog, it's such a shame that the management aren't taking any notice of the fans who are all disappointed with the 'sheet, for another £1 there are some real good, proper progs out there, we're paying £2 for no content whatsoever, it's only worth £1 or less! Shame we have this when we're experiencing a special run and potential title winning year :-(

As I've said in another posting Trees, the boys are going slower obviously, but they're still producing good racing for the most part, and IMHO are equally as entertaining as their senior counterparts in their own way. If you ever get a chance of seeing Tom Brennan, hang back for a minute and watch him, he's a little bit special, and by naming him, I don't want to decry the efforts any of the young lads.

 

I agree with your sentiments about the programme, in all my 50+ years of going to speedway, Sheffield apart, I've never seen anything so bad. Maybe the team was expensive to put together and they had to cut back on printing costs (I'm only guessing) by means of cutting their cloth so to speak. Milton Keynes in the MDL print a programme almost equal to ours, and give it away, as I believe Sheffield used to do. There's some brilliant programmes out there this year, particularly Newcastle, which is like a library book, and Berwick. I've heard people moan in huge numbers over the past weeks, but I guess that now the club have gone down the road with it, they'll have to stick with it for this year. Lets hope that when we're defending our league title in 2015, we'll be winning the Programme of the Year Award at the end of the season, instead of where we're gonna finish with it this year.

[Leicester Hunter]

Cant believe Leicester fans pay money to watch that.

What you have to bear in mind is this: Leicester was without a speedway team from October 1983 to early 2011. That's a timespan of almost 27 and a half years. Like my club, Birmingham, there was constant lobbying for the sport to return to a suitable venue in the city, and eventually it did. The parallel between both clubs is that both were initially well supported (in fairness to Leicester they still are), and have both moved into the top level of speedway in this country. However, disquiet among supporters is now starting to arise over various issues, a common theme with some is that neither team is competitive at EL level and it might be better if they reverted to PL status.

 

One difference between the two clubs is the David Hemsley has not been stating he can't afford to do this, that and the other because he hasn't got sufficient funds (not yet, anyway) and crowd levels so far are not overly concerning. I would say the Leicester public really have cottoned on to the fact that if they don't use it, they will lose it, and the sport probably would be dead and buried as far as the city is concerned. But you could say that about virtually every other club in the country at the moment.

 

Beaumont Park is the closest track to me, but having visited once in 2011, and witnessed a succession of 'gate and go' races, I have never returned. Blackbird Road it certainly isn't. I first started attending speedway at that venue, and whether under the promotions of Ron Wilson, Vic White or Martin Rogers, you paid your money and were almost guaranteed top class entertainment every week, such was the way the track was prepared, allied with the wide open spaces there. That's not a swipe at Glyn Taylor btw. I'm sure he does his utmost with what he has available, and it must be soul destroying for him to come on here and read what he does every week about the track.

 

It is wrong to make comparisons between different venues in different era's, but it's also human nature, and thus is largely unavoidable. Blackbird Road was always going to be a hard act to follow with those of us the went there every week, and with Beaumont Park being the way it is at the moment, I reckon it's nigh on impossible. Which is a great shame.

Edited June 8, 2014 by Leicester Hunter

[weatherwatcher]

The centre green needed being a tracks width wider and the track also a lane widths wider. Why was overthing that should have been a size 12 foot be tried to fit into a size 7 shoe. Did thay only have so much room to play with, as there is so much room around the track that seems to be going to waste.

Why put in such a small cramped track with long straights, when you had a blank canvas to work with, or was this as I said an issue with the amount of land they could actually use.

[TMW]

What you have to bear in mind is this: Leicester was without a speedway team from October 1983 to early 2011. That's a timespan of almost 27 and a half years. Like my club, Birmingham, there was constant lobbying for the sport to return to a suitable venue in the city, and eventually it did. The parallel between both clubs is that both were initially well supported (in fairness to Leicester they still are), and have both moved into the top level of speedway in this country. However, disquiet among supporters is now starting to arise over various issues, a common theme with some is that neither team is competitive at EL level and it might be better if they reverted to PL status.

 

One difference between the two clubs is the David Hemsley has not been stating he can't afford to do this, that and the other because he hasn't got sufficient funds (not yet, anyway) and crowd levels so far are not overly concerning. I would say the Leicester public really have cottoned on to the fact that if they don't use it, they will lose it, and the sport probably would be dead and buried as far as the city is concerned. But you could say that about virtually every other club in the country at the moment.

 

Beaumont Park is the closest track to me, but having visited once in 2011, and witnessed a succession of 'gate and go' races, I have never returned. Blackbird Road it certainly isn't. I first started attending speedway at that venue, and whether under the promotions of Ron Wilson, Vic White or Martin Rogers, you paid your money and were almost guaranteed top class entertainment every week, such was the way the track was prepared, allied with the wide open spaces there. That's not a swipe at Glyn Taylor btw. I'm sure he does his utmost with what he has available, and it must be soul destroying for him to come on here and read what he does every week about the track.

 

It is wrong to make comparisons between different venues in different era's, but it's also human nature, and thus is largely unavoidable. Blackbird Road was always going to be a hard act to follow with those of us the went there every week, and with Beaumont Park being the way it is at the moment, I reckon it's nigh on impossible. Which is a great shame.

I never went to BR. I'd not even heard of Speedway then but, you couldn't follow Blackbird road so why bother trying because it isn't 1983, it's a different Era, different riders, different bikes and we are all different people. Many of us have been married, had children, got divorced, had grankids etc. In 1983 the sun always shone from May to September...or did it!!!! I was 20, now i'm 50. I never went to Station Road late 80's/ 90's I couldn't think of anything worse. I went once a season as a token gesture to show willing of course now I wish I had gone more but I don't dwell on it.

[semion]

Maybe if the fans keep banging on about the track. Sky doesn't come calling. Other promotions and riders tell him the track isn't all that. Would the penny not finally drop with Hemsley? Or is he that far up his own ass he doesn't see or hear the things others say ?

[rainman]

Sky there soon ;-)

[Gemini]

Gutted I haven't got Sky anymore.

 

 

 

.....semion...... Other promotions and riders tell him the track isn't all that.

 

I presume you've missed a word off but I get the gist. I very much doubt if any rider would criticise the track in public. Speedway is a very small world and a rider could very easily be signed to ride for Leicester at some time in the future so I'm pretty sure all riders bear this in mind and watch what they say.......with some exceptions.

Edited June 8, 2014 by Gemini

[Leicester Hunter]

I never went to BR. I'd not even heard of Speedway then but, you couldn't follow Blackbird road so why bother trying because it isn't 1983, it's a different Era, different riders, different bikes and we are all different people. Many of us have been married, had children, got divorced, had grankids etc. In 1983 the sun always shone from May to September...or did it!!!! I was 20, now i'm 50. I never went to Station Road late 80's/ 90's I couldn't think of anything worse. I went once a season as a token gesture to show willing of course now I wish I had gone more but I don't dwell on it.

I'm not quite sure what kind of point you're trying to make here. Are you trying to pick an argument with me, or what? I'm saying it's wrong anyway to make comparisons, but invariably human nature dictates how different people see different things if they were directly involved in both eras. You say you didn't go to Blackbird Road for whatever reason. That's OK with me, I just don't see the point of your reply.

Edited June 8, 2014 by Leicester Hunter