Daniel Smith Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Is it anything to do with the boys going slower and just taking their chance at a pass when it arises, through a mistake or wrong line etc? Whereas the senior riders need to build up to executing a pass and weigh up the pros and cons of doing so as they rarely make mistakes? Not sure if I'm making myself clear there lol? Re our prog, it's such a shame that the management aren't taking any notice of the fans who are all disappointed with the 'sheet, for another £1 there are some real good, proper progs out there, we're paying £2 for no content whatsoever, it's only worth £1 or less! Shame we have this when we're experiencing a special run and potential title winning year :-( Be careful what you wish for. Our programme could be what's brought us some luck. Change it and the season may come crashing down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Think not, bloody thing, I really dunno why I buy it, in fact from now on I'm not so there nur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Didnt go last night but the starting marshall is a problem at leicester, always needling the away riders and grabbing the front wheel of the bikes to pull them forward it was only a matter of time before a rider had a go back, well done Iversen. Its my thinking that the bike belongs to the rider and it shouldent be touched by any of the track staff unless they are pulling it off the track or push starting the bike, would have liked to have been there last night just to see the reaction on his face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Didnt go last night but the starting marshall is a problem at leicester, always needling the away riders and grabbing the front wheel of the bikes to pull them forward it was only a matter of time before a rider had a go back, well done Iversen. Its my thinking that the bike belongs to the rider and it shouldent be touched by any of the track staff unless they are pulling it off the track or push starting the bike, would have liked to have been there last night just to see the reaction on his face. Riders ought to make an official complaint against him if that is what he gets up to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 (edited) As a person who travels around the country quite a lot to watch meetings, in my opinion, Scunthorpe provides by far the most entertaining racing in speedway. KIng's Lynn and Peterborough aren't far behind, nor are Sheffield when you've got two good sides competing together, so your promoter should swallow pride and speak to the track curator of one of these venues, and attempt to put matters right before he loses you all. You all pay hard earned money to watch what you do, and it would appear from your comments that you are being basically ripped off. One positive you can take is the fact that you do have a decent match day programme!!! Me too. Scunthorpe, Somerset, Plymouth, Peterborough & Mildenhall for me. The thing is David Hemsley seems to insist that the problem doesn't exist regardless of whatever anyone else says. If there's no problem, he doesn't need to fix it. I also don't think that the curator is an issue because I rate Glyn Taylor as one of the best in the business. Edited June 8, 2014 by Halifaxtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Riders ought to make an official complaint against him if that is what he gets up to! don't know the rules , but riders should line up right near the tapes will stop the rolling starts and less twitching at the tapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Hunter Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Whatever the problems are, Mr Hemsley has obviously got to take notice of what you people are all saying, otherwise we could be looking at another stadium closure He hasn't so far, and this has probably been the longest running topic on this forum. From what I have heard, as far as David Hemsley is concerned, it's his way or no way. As a person who travels around the country quite a lot to watch meetings, in my opinion, Scunthorpe provides by far the most entertaining racing in speedway. KIng's Lynn and Peterborough aren't far behind, nor are Sheffield when you've got two good sides competing together, so your promoter should swallow pride and speak to the track curator of one of these venues, and attempt to put matters right before he loses you all. You all pay hard earned money to watch what you do, and it would appear from your comments that you are being basically ripped off. To be fair here, Scunthorpe has been considerably widened to accommodate BriSCa F1 Stock Cars since it was opened, it has lots of different racing lines due to that, but also far shorter straights (that's how it seems to me, anyway) than Leicester. Somerset is another outstanding venue for racing, but as I noted above, David Hemsley seems to have a 'not thought of here' syndrome towards Beaumont Park. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Have to disagree with the Iversen incident, even from the back straight you could see him rolling back after the start Marshall had gone back to the middle after pulling him forward time and time again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Thought at the time that Niels was lucky the referee didn't take any action (possible exclusion) but think from Niels point of view, the frustration came from the start marshal having a pop two races on the trot. You never really notice a start marshal during a meeting but we'd picked up earlier how he was only on at the visiting riders. He was even doing it in the MDL meeting. So biased it's untrue. As for the track, can only agree with what's been said before. My first visit yesterday and was really impressed with the whole setup apart from the track (and the start marshal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Didnt go last night but the starting marshall is a problem at leicester, always needling the away riders and grabbing the front wheel of the bikes to pull them forward it was only a matter of time before a rider had a go back, well done Iversen. Its my thinking that the bike belongs to the rider and it shouldent be touched by any of the track staff unless they are pulling it off the track or push starting the bike, would have liked to have been there last night just to see the reaction on his face. Well done Iversen? He should be banned if he took provocative action towards an official. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionstigersnotbearsohmy Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Taking the advice of the wise sages on here and the FB page, i.e. if you don't like it don't go, I watched last night's 'action' on bet365. What a dismal spectacle that was. People keep trumpeting on that we should be grateful to have speedway back after 28 years. That's not speedway. It's everything non speedway fans think speedway is. Boring gate and go stuff. Riders strung out. Follow the leader. Hardly going to attract new fans is it? I hope upon hope that the promotion will give Glyn an opportunity to use his experience to attempt to improve the shape in a meaningful way, but I'll not hold my breath. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Problem was Niels wanted to start 5 yards back behind everyone else so he could get a roll at the start he did it all night & i would imagine it may have been instructions from the referee to pull him into line. But for the record the start Marshall didn't touch the rider or his wheel he just pulled him into line verbally Thought at the time that Niels was lucky the referee didn't take any action (possible exclusion) but think from Niels point of view, the frustration came from the start marshal having a pop two races on the trot. You never really notice a start marshal during a meeting but we'd picked up earlier how he was only on at the visiting riders. He was even doing it in the MDL meeting. So biased it's untrue. As for the track, can only agree with what's been said before. My first visit yesterday and was really impressed with the whole setup apart from the track (and the start marshal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Taking the advice of the wise sages on here and the FB page, i.e. if you don't like it don't go, I watched last night's 'action' on bet365. What a dismal spectacle that was. People keep trumpeting on that we should be grateful to have speedway back after 28 years. That's not speedway. It's everything non speedway fans think speedway is. Boring gate and go stuff. Riders strung out. Follow the leader. Hardly going to attract new fans is it? I hope upon hope that the promotion will give Glyn an opportunity to use his experience to attempt to improve the shape in a meaningful way, but I'll not hold my breath. Absolutely spot on Lionstigers.. I'm not grateful for anyone bringing what we've got now back to Leicester. I didn't wait 28 years for that.. I would have rather waited 40 years and actually had someone putting down a track that actually resembled the sport we love than have someone kill the sport forever in our city by producing the dismal level of entertainment we have to suffer now. The reality is i think i would have preferred to have just kept on dreaming. Mick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post justathought Posted June 8, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I'm a pretty easy going sort of chap, kinda go with the flow, and try and make the best of things. But, regarding the track I think I've got to admit defeat on this one. It's pointless going on about what's wrong with it, it's all been said a million times. I love speedway, always have, since I was 11 years old and started going to Long Eaton. What is served up at Leicester isn't Speedway it's just follow the leader. It's a real shame as I have met some great people at BP and made a lot of new friends. Last night was the worst meeting I've ever seen..............Terrible. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I absolutely hate reading posts like this, nobody needs to wonder why our sport isn't as popular as it should be when true fans are so disillusioned with the quality of racing/entertainment that they don't attend anymore :-( Come on Mr Hemsley, sort it out for your hardcore fans and potential newbies!!!!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Didnt go last night but the starting marshall is a problem at leicester, always needling the away riders and grabbing the front wheel of the bikes to pull them forward it was only a matter of time before a rider had a go back, well done Iversen. Must admit I have never seen a starting marshall like this one.The bloke was just such a busybody.He couldn't wait for the riders to get around the fourth bend so he tell them look this is where you will go.At all the tracks I have been to the marshall normally lets the riders have a little dig of the track and let them find the suitable position to start from,and then they would draw them to the tapes.Maybe this marshall wanted to the centre of attention rather than letting the riders have it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Now I do want the track changing not because I don't like it but because I am sick to the back teeth of this every sunday morning. I do hope they do change it. Because lets face it Swindon on thursday night 'one of the best tracks in the country' was an absolute cracker..... wasn't it? If Iversen is doing sub 60 heats how on gods earth was anyone doing 61/62/63 going to have a 'good race' with him.Stead was able to pass why couldn't everyone else Oh that will be because Stead is an allround quality rider and 'can' pass.That will be why. Kings Lynn were far the better team on the night and thanks to Kerr packing the wrong gloves it wasn't worse. Get real !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Now I do want the track changing not because I don't like it but because I am sick to the back teeth of this every sunday morning. I do hope they do change it. Because lets face it Swindon on thursday night 'one of the best tracks in the country' was an absolute cracker..... wasn't it? If Iversen is doing sub 60 heats how on gods earth was anyone doing 61/62/63 going to have a 'good race' with him.Stead was able to pass why couldn't everyone else Oh that will be because Stead is an allround quality rider and 'can' pass.That will be why. Kings Lynn were far the better team on the night and thanks to Kerr packing the wrong gloves it wasn't worse. Get real !!!! You could be right.. How refreshing to have a whole new perspective on things. Obviously everyone else is wrong. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Now I do want the track changing not because I don't like it but because I am sick to the back teeth of this every sunday morning. I do hope they do change it. Because lets face it Swindon on thursday night 'one of the best tracks in the country' was an absolute cracker..... wasn't it? If Iversen is doing sub 60 heats how on gods earth was anyone doing 61/62/63 going to have a 'good race' with him.Stead was able to pass why couldn't everyone else Oh that will be because Stead is an allround quality rider and 'can' pass.That will be why. Kings Lynn were far the better team on the night and thanks to Kerr packing the wrong gloves it wasn't worse. Get real !!!! Tina, I guess you're still waiting for Darcy to put the track debate to bed once and for all then. After all, if he can pass on the track then your case will be well and trully rested. If Korneliussen is doing sub 62 heats how on gods earth can you expect someone doing 59 sec heats to have a 'good race' with him. blimey o'reilly Tina, you've surpassed even yourself with this post. Back to facebook with ya!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 You could be right.. How refreshing to have a whole new perspective on things. Obviously everyone else is wrong. Thank you. That's why i'm saying lets get the track changed and then we will see. I've heard the riders on SKY being interviewed and all you get is 'Gating is so important and we just aren't gating' Please don't quote me world cups and GP's as they are a different kettle of fish altogether. I said when Poole were coming that Darcy would test our track if he didn't gate and all I got was 'Oh so you have to be a world class rider to pass at BP' Well that is why he is world class you spoon because he can ride a bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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