Fromafar Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Certainly was a bad night at Swindon but he showed he can ride Peterborough in the 4's last year so I don't think big tracks should be the issue.At EL level if he misses the gate he's history.Decent at PL level though.Be surprised if he ever makes a GP rider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Pretty sure he guested for someone last season, but crashed and broke his wrist early on. Could be wrong though! Think he did as well. Crashed hitting the fence coming out of the second bend and spun round. He though he had caught his footrest under the kick board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted June 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Have we recreated the worst attribute of Shielfield without their pluses. In a nutshell, are we now a gaters' paradise. Tonight we saw a clutch of falls etc. caused by riders attempting to pull off a pass in less than favourable circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Cookie didn't do too badly in the ELRC at Swindon last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) After ht 12 myself and fellow travellers were distinctly unsmug about the Monarchs salvaging a bonus point, never mind three match winning points. Â Then in ht 13, Sam Masters blasts round King & Lindgren on the second bend to gain a magnificent second place and the Monarchs are now only point behind. Â However ht 14 has the fast starting Kerr, who looks odds on favourite, but no, Mr Cool (aka Steve Worrall) surges to the front and Deek holds up Kerr for two laps and unbelievably we're one point ahead. Â With King & the fast trapping Robson (who had only dropped one point), and choice of gates, Diamonds must still have fancied there chance, but it was not to be as the PL's fop rider simply blew the homesters away in a re-run ht 15, in an astonishingly fastest time of the season of 62.1. Â One suggestion to the Monarchs management, the Fricke & Sneddon pairing is the weak link, and placing Sneddon at no.2 and Sedgmen at no.4, might provide a better balance. Â When Fox returns fully fit and hopefully continues to improve, then Edinburgh should still be threat to anyone, as the use of a NL guest does weaken our overall capabilities. Edited June 2, 2014 by cyclone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) I think cookie has been struggling with set up at times this year, especially in the el. No 5 position is unforgiving and can make him look average at times but when he gets it right he can be phenomenal. Fastest time of the season in ht15 with the meeting on the line! I think he will crack the el heat leader properly soon and I hope for his sake someone in Poland takes him on (not this season though). 10.70, how many believed him when he said he would raise his pl average? Â As for the Newcastle fans whining about mistakes and bad luck you should accept you were beaten by a brilliant team. Monarchs had a missing rider, (IMO at least) 2 poor refereeing decisions, threw away points and some under performing riders. but 5 points behind with 4 races to go all 6 of them stood up and were counted. on paper diamonds had the strongest rider in all 4 races but we won 3 of them including a fantastic 5-1 over danny king. Â Thanks also to Danny Phillips for a decent effort, especially keeping king behind when he came off 15m for 3/4s of a lap although greenwood did a good job blocking as well ;-) Â Hope both mills and greenwood are both OK after nasty looking crashes. Edited June 2, 2014 by scotchopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I think there is no doubt that Edinburgh are by far the best side in the PL at the moment. Â They did what those top sides do - pull out the result even when it looks like its going against them. Â Hard on Newcastle though - dont think many wouldve begrudged them the draw. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I think cookie has been struggling with set up at times this year, especially in the el. No 5 position is unforgiving and can make him look average at times but when he gets it right he can be phenomenal. Fastest time of the season in ht15 with the meeting on the line! I think he will crack the el heat leader properly soon and I hope for his sake someone in Poland takes him on (not this season though). 10.70, how many believed him when he said he would raise his pl average? Â As for the Newcastle fans whining about mistakes and bad luck you should accept you were beaten by a brilliant team. Monarchs had a missing rider, (IMO at least) 2 poor refereeing decisions, threw away points and some under performing riders. but 5 points behind with 4 races to go all 6 of them stood up and were counted. on paper diamonds had the strongest rider in all 4 races but we won 3 of them including a fantastic 5-1 over danny king. Â Thanks also to Danny Phillips for a decent effort, especially keeping king behind when he came off 15m for 3/4s of a lap although greenwood did a good job blocking as well ;-) Â Hope both mills and greenwood are both OK after nasty looking crashes. I believe you are now moaning about Edinburgh's bad luck after moaning at Newcastle fans for moaning about their bad luck. Bit hypocritical of you there don't you think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainAudi Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Â I believe you are now moaning about Edinburgh's bad luck after moaning at Newcastle fans for moaning about their bad luck. Bit hypocritical of you there don't you think. Possibly not, read the rest of the paragraph. By his wording, I think He means they could have moaned about it but didn't, they just got stuck in to the task at hand. Edited June 2, 2014 by MonarchsMitchy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Would have to ask a genuine question to Newcastle supporters - Would the result have been the same, had the Newcastle team not been changed? Â I have to say, that I think there are slightly stronger septets in the division than us, but the character and team-spirit in the camp is giving us the extra points we need in these difficult away meetings... I've always been proud as even when the team hasn't been that strong, as we've always gone and put up performances to entertain the crowd (even if we've been hammered)... However at the moment, that same fighting spirit is pulling us through some tough encounters and turning points into wins... Â Happy to be a Monarch:) Edited June 2, 2014 by Nutz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Exactly my point mitchy both teams had a bit of adversity, these things happen in speedway, but when it came to the crunch it was the monarchs riders who stoud up strongest. Â That is the difference between a good team (and newcastle are a decent team with some cracjing riders) and a great team. No medals are handed out in June and there is a long way to go but it is a pleasure watching this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Have we recreated the worst attribute of Shielfield without their pluses. In a nutshell, are we now a gaters' paradise. Tonight we saw a clutch of falls etc. caused by riders attempting to pull off a pass in less than favourable circumstances. Â To be fair its always been like that unless a rider is brave enough to go around the boards on 1st and 2nd or 3rd and 4th, the only other place to pass mainly is up the inside on 4th bend. Our team is mainly setup with a team of decent gaters (apart from a couple) and if they miss the gate they struggle to pass. The track has been probably the smoothest its ever been and not as many riders are getting out of shape from away teams. Â Well done to Edinburgh for last night and you did very well in the last 3 races. We should of had it in the bag and probably threw it away. If Cookie or Worrall struggle you will obviously start losing but they are on fire at the minute. Masters probably won you the match last night with a decent performance and big heat 13 Edited June 2, 2014 by Gaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Masters did his job. Anytime a reserve scores paid 15 away from home, he is the matchwinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Have we recreated the worst attribute of Shielfield without their pluses. In a nutshell, are we now a gaters' paradise. Tonight we saw a clutch of falls etc. caused by riders attempting to pull off a pass in less than favourable circumstances. Hasnt it always been like that!! Â With King and Robbo in the home team...with 3 heats to go you would expect the home team to put this meeting to bed Fair play to Edinburgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Its starting to look like a really impressive team change by the Newcastle management. They have managed to spend big on a number 1 and weaken their team at the same time! Â I guess in August when Kings average drop top 8.5 they can bring in a 5+ rider for Mills or a 6+ rider for Schramm. Edited June 2, 2014 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I'm still flabbergasted by cooks time and performance in heat 15.... He was like a jet after being pretty ordinary by his standards. He made an ave gate in heat 15, then went back to the pit gate after turning around at bend 3 and 2 blokes came out with what looked like 2 clutch coolers...they stood either side of the bike for about 20 secs.. and he absolutely flew in the re run...( he never returned in a previous heat re run and was terribly slow, so much that greenwood was overtaking him for 3rd when he came down) Maybe the other 3 need to follow his lead as it made all the difference in the re run.... Diff between winning and losing?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Its starting to look like a really impressive team change by the Newcastle management. They have managed to spend big on a number 1 and weaken their team at the same time! Â I guess in August when Kings average drop top 8.5 they can bring in a 5+ rider for Mills or a 6+ rider for Schramm. Â You know that for a fact do you? Â Last night shows that Newcastle aren't far away. To get within a point of one of the unbeaten teams in the PL this year was a damn good effort. Â I thought neither side deserved to lose and a draw may have been a more apt result. Just my opinion of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I'm still flabbergasted by cooks time and performance in heat 15.... He was like a jet after being pretty ordinary by his standards. He made an ave gate in heat 15, then went back to the pit gate after turning around at bend 3 and 2 blokes came out with what looked like 2 clutch coolers...they stood either side of the bike for about 20 secs.. and he absolutely flew in the re run...( he never returned in a previous heat re run and was terribly slow, so much that greenwood was overtaking him for 3rd when he came down) Maybe the other 3 need to follow his lead as it made all the difference in the re run.... Diff between winning and losing?? very good observation, that,,, while everyone else was probly wandering why he went back,,, I think we threw it away, but was happy with the performance overall :-),,, I was suprised at how many points Masters & Sedgmen scored, but also suprised at how many Deek & Fricke did'nt,,, gotta say,,, thanks to Olly Greenwood for the effort he put in, could we have him guest every week if needed ??? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamlad Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I'm still flabbergasted by cooks time and performance in heat 15.... He was like a jet after being pretty ordinary by his standards. He made an ave gate in heat 15, then went back to the pit gate after turning around at bend 3 and 2 blokes came out with what looked like 2 clutch coolers...they stood either side of the bike for about 20 secs.. and he absolutely flew in the re run...( he never returned in a previous heat re run and was terribly slow, so much that greenwood was overtaking him for 3rd when he came down) Maybe the other 3 need to follow his lead as it made all the difference in the re run.... Diff between winning and losing?? Cooks bikes need a real good look at, I've always said it. How can he be so crap in the EL but yet flying in the PL. .... Obvious he can't away with his 'bike changes' , like the one he made last night. Never really sets the world alight on individuals either , he won the PLRC cos only one rider to beat, but other than that does nothing there either, too many checks going on there too. Cook is a bad loser and will do whatever it takes, fingers crossed one of these days his bikes get stripped , then lets see how good he is I heard he was refereeing at Northside the other week priceless !!! At least the young uns will know how to make a cracker of rolling start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Max is without his best engine at the moment so that might help explain his score. Â Deek has been struggling recently. Certainly needs to get some form back for when he drops to reserve next month otherwise we'll struggle there. Â Olly has a busted collar bone now so I doubt you'll be using him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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