Swindon V Belle Vue 26/5/14

[bigcatdiary]

Ah but that's the EL rule book. Tonight they used the Sky rule book . Pearson had been talking up a postponement from the start of heat1.

 

More to the point did anyone spot a pair of purple chinos, with or without brown shoes?

Another complete farce, I do wonder how many more of these the sport can take.

[waiheke1]

We went through all this last year after the Belle Vue/Poole disgrace.

When there is a Meeting Steward appointed (as there is for Sky meetings) they have sole responsibility regarding abandonments. They can take into account other opinions but as rule 14.6 says

http://www.scbgb.co.uk/pdf/regulations/2014%20SPEEDWAY%20REGULATIONS.pdf

any postponement is at their "sole discretion". So down to Ronnie Allen tonight.

But surely that clause is establish ing who the person is who makes tbe decision (I.e. not yhe referee).

There is nothing in that clause which indicates that it takes precedence over the later paragraph stating that only the trailing team can request an abandonment or inspection after heat 10.

[greyhoundp]

With the conditions getting gradually worse surely it is better to call it whilst all the riders are still in one piece?

 

I get the impression that some posters on here would rather let meetings carry on until there is a serious accident before calling a meeting off.

 

I wasnt there, but from what posters on here are saying "the Track was NOT Dangerous" so why call it off?, this is another reason why Speedway is dying, Micky Mouse people are running the Sport, and making Clowns of the spectators.

[Grachan]

But surely that clause is establish ing who the person is who makes tbe decision (I.e. not yhe referee).

There is nothing in that clause which indicates that it takes precedence over the later paragraph stating that only the trailing team can request an abandonment or inspection after heat 10.

I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago. Edited May 26, 2014 by grachan

[waiheke1]

Have you got me on ignore or something? I already pointed out that they said on tv that they had agreed to do 2 more heats after heat 10 and then have another look.

 

Maybe everyone has me on ignore.

 

Maybe I live in a parallel universe.

 

Hello? Hello? Can anyone see my posts? Am I alone in the world?

I see your posts! But to clarify, who agreed? Did bv request at thst point an inspection after heat 12? After heat 10, only bv should have been able to initiate any such thing.

[nw42]

With the conditions getting gradually worse surely it is better to call it whilst all the riders are still in one piece?

 

I get the impression that some posters on here would rather let meetings carry on until there is a serious accident before calling a meeting off.

 

I think you're wrong about people wanting injuries to riders, that meeting had some decent racing and could have delivered a decent finish. There was no indication that it was any more dangerous after ht 12 had finished. It was clear that it was called off at the behest of Rossiter & Batchelor, paying public ripped off again.

[mike1944]

 

I wasnt there, but from what posters on here are saying "the Track was NOT Dangerous" so why call it off?, this is another reason why Speedway is dying, Micky Mouse people are running the Sport, and making Clowns of the spectators.

Exactly. Be honest, did the track look that dangerous to anyone watching in heat 12, I have seen racing continue in far worse conditions.

Edited May 26, 2014 by mike1944

[Hodgy]

Riders safety is paramount - after heat 10.

[Grachan]

I see your posts! But to clarify, who agreed? Did bv request at thst point an inspection after heat 12? After heat 10, only bv should have been able to initiate any such thing.

Clearly they all agreed to do this. After all Scott Nicholls was quite vocal in saying conditions were dangerous when interviewed earlier.

[van wolfswinkel]

Well done Swindon especially Gusto ..again. Glad I came home from the dogs up there and didn't bother to go back for the speedway. Yet another abandonment, that's only 3 meetings completed in 10 attempts. Can see this Robins side gradually moving up the table, All-round strength.

[Fromafar]

The referee called it off

Rossiter and Batchelor certainly put the pressure on,watching Rosco with the glum face when discussing the conditions was classic,there won't be many fans making an effort to go watch speedway if tonight's conditions can get a match put off.The sport is on its last legs at El level in Britain.

[bri1966]

In the 70s and 80s seen riders riding round with goggles down after two laps . Tracks too slick ,so a little rain and it becomes like an ice rink

[salty]

But surely that clause is establish ing who the person is who makes tbe decision (I.e. not yhe referee).

There is nothing in that clause which indicates that it takes precedence over the later paragraph stating that only the trailing team can request an abandonment or inspection after heat 10.

Can see the point you are trying to make, but all that means is that (officially) Swindon should not have been able to request an abandonment. If the Meeting Steward (Ronnie) decides to request their input into his decision then apparently that is OK.

Personally, whilst I can see why a Meeting Steward is appointed for Sky meetings (a necessary evil), I think the decision on abandonment should be the ref's.

[FrankThePug]

Have you got me on ignore or something? I already pointed out that they said on tv that they had agreed to do 2 more heats after heat 10 and then have another look.

Maybe everyone has me on ignore.

Maybe I live in a parallel universe.

Hello? Hello? Can anyone see my posts? Am I alone in the world?

Everyone also appears to have missed the part where 7 time British Champion Scott Nicholls said that the track was dangerous to ride on and visibility was poor, then two heats later at the next check all of a sudden it was fantastic and we should finish the meeting.

 

As to the suggestion Swindon cheated I refer people back to the Coventry meeting last month when the exact same situation happened, team in front doesn't want to ride, team that's behind does and all the fans kick off later about it on the forum.

 

All in all Belle Vue got what they deserved out of the meeting which was nothing, Cook was abysmal and the rest were pretty average yet we are to believe that the weather has screwed them out of a point, na not buying it all just sour grapes

[theblueboy]

Why are the Coventry fans 'up in arms and giving it large'?

 

When we raced you....it pi$$ed down after heat 5. Much worse than tonight. Now that meeting should have been called off before heat 10 but when the Robins fans moaned and said it was dangerous you all laughed and you were happy to take the 4 points gifted to you.

 

Tonight, nothing changed between heat 5 and heat 12. There was some good racing considering the conditions and heat 11 between Toft and Morris was proper stuff.

 

I agree it should have continued but hey those are the breaks

[SCB]

As to the suggestion Swindon cheated I refer people back to the Coventry meeting last month when the exact same situation happened, team in front doesn't want to ride, team that's behind does and all the fans kick off later about it on the forum.

My biggest issue is after the moaning about the Coventry meeting Swindon fans are now defending the exact opposite. Have a little integrity and either agree this was wrong or the Bees meeting was correct.

[andypoll]

Just been backtracking through the comments on here and the updates site and others are not seeing what i see, i've seen lots of passing! and it's nice not to witness a sparse crowd.

 

Out of order calling this off, witnessed many meetings way worse than the conditions here and there has been some hard racing recently without any problems.

I agree . Not fair on supporters who have paid good money to be there , especially travelling Aces fans. Not on at all.

[waiheke1]

To be clear Im not saying swindon cheated, and already state d there is no guarantee the aces would have earned a point.

But the question is was the correct process followed? Snd were the paying public unnecessarily deprived of 20% of the meeting they had paid to see?

[orion]

Well done Simon ...Look's like the dressing down that Rosco gave him on the Tv has done him the world of Good

[LagutaRacingFan]

What a shambles.

 

Dak was just about getting into the meeting.