Shale Searcher Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Right, after Saturday mornings storms/rain, and Saturday nights storms/rain, in excess of 18,000 gallons of water was pumped from the track and holding tanks.... The forecast for Monday was a fluid forecast that changed several times over the weekend, and was not a guaranteed forecast at any time, and if the track had been only 25 miles as the crow flys to the west or a tad further to the east, we wouldn't be discussing this now, because it was dry! (Ish) You cannot call off meetings based on will it/won't it forecasts, especially when the forecast is so inconclusive, you'd never run a meeting in the UK!! The track was prepared for the possibility of pre meeting rain and in actual fact if the rain had stopped by 3:30 there's every chance there would have been a meeting!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Right, after Saturday mornings storms/rain, and Saturday nights storms/rain, in excess of 18,000 gallons of water was pumped from the track and holding tanks.... The forecast for Monday was a fluid forecast that changed several times over the weekend, and was not a guaranteed forecast at any time, and if the track had been only 25 miles as the crow flys to the west or a tad further to the east, we wouldn't be discussing this now, because it was dry! (Ish) You cannot call off meetings based on will it/won't it forecasts, especially when the forecast is so inconclusive, you'd never run a meeting in the UK!! The track was prepared for the possibility of pre meeting rain and in actual fact if the rain had stopped by 3:30 there's every chance there would have been a meeting!!! Totally agree with this. I checked the Met Office forecast when I left home at 2.00 p.m. and they were still forecasting a dry spell between 3.00 & 5.00 p.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Right, after Saturday mornings storms/rain, and Saturday nights storms/rain, in excess of 18,000 gallons of water was pumped from the track and holding tanks.... The forecast for Monday was a fluid forecast that changed several times over the weekend, and was not a guaranteed forecast at any time, and if the track had been only 25 miles as the crow flys to the west or a tad further to the east, we wouldn't be discussing this now, because it was dry! (Ish) You cannot call off meetings based on will it/won't it forecasts, especially when the forecast is so inconclusive, you'd never run a meeting in the UK!! The track was prepared for the possibility of pre meeting rain and in actual fact if the rain had stopped by 3:30 there's every chance there would have been a meeting!!! Certainly the weather forecast that I looked at was misleading (The Met Office) which was a surprise to me, in the past they have been pretty much spot on. It said showers and sunny periods. Not 3 hours of continues rain. That's why I thought the meeting would be on. Oh well..................I suppose even Michael Fish got it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Right after leaving my thoughts until today I have no idea why they let people in to pay there money and for fans like me a poole fan it had been raining for a good while before the time of 14.50pm when we arrived it was blatantly obvious huge track was in no fit state to race good sized puddles on the inside of the bends and both the home & back straights were way to icey and the skies were still full of rain. Waiting an extra 30 minutes was a complete waste of time as even a novice speedway fan coming along maybe for the first time would've seen it was a non starter ! And then the manager whom I have the opinion knows not a lot about speedway had the cheek to tell me I should've checked the weather before leaving !! What. Sorry love but I live in nottingham and the forecast seemed okay but obviously not as what folk have said already. Not happy at the shambolic way Leicester speedway has conducted itself and IMO nothing short of a disgrace... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Right after leaving my thoughts until today I have no idea why they let people in to pay there money and for fans like me a poole fan it had been raining for a good while before the time of 14.50pm when we arrived it was blatantly obvious huge track was in no fit state to race good sized puddles on the inside of the bends and both the home & back straights were way to icey and the skies were still full of rain. Waiting an extra 30 minutes was a complete waste of time as even a novice speedway fan coming along maybe for the first time would've seen it was a non starter ! And then the manager whom I have the opinion knows not a lot about speedway had the cheek to tell me I should've checked the weather before leaving !! What. Sorry love but I live in nottingham and the forecast seemed okay but obviously not as what folk have said already. Not happy at the shambolic way Leicester speedway has conducted itself and IMO nothing short of a disgrace... It was unfortunate. I think the forecast caught most people out. You do understand that your ticket can be used for another meeting or you can write in to Leicester speedway and get a refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Both sets of riders agreed to ride if the rain stopped and none said that they thought the track was unsafe. The surface water was brushed off and I am told Glyn and his team had more top surface to put on. That is why they gave it 30mins to see if rain stopped so visibility was the main reason for the postponement as confirmed by the ref. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Every forecast I saw on Monday for Leicester was light showers. The narrow band of rain that was meant to move to the west, stayed put. That's why wolves and Swindon saw some racing. It was still too much of a gamble for me to travel from London, a good call I reckon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Right after leaving my thoughts until today I have no idea why they let people in to pay there money and for fans like me a poole fan it had been raining for a good while before the time of 14.50pm when we arrived it was blatantly obvious huge track was in no fit state to race good sized puddles on the inside of the bends and both the home & back straights were way to icey and the skies were still full of rain. Waiting an extra 30 minutes was a complete waste of time as even a novice speedway fan coming along maybe for the first time would've seen it was a non starter ! And then the manager whom I have the opinion knows not a lot about speedway had the cheek to tell me I should've checked the weather before leaving !! What. Sorry love but I live in nottingham and the forecast seemed okay but obviously not as what folk have said already. Not happy at the shambolic way Leicester speedway has conducted itself and IMO nothing short of a disgrace... There was no shambles. I paid to get in and have no regrets. The track was perfectly ridable up to approx 2:40. The rain started approx 2:15 but was very light initially. Which "Manager" is it that you mentioned. David Hemsley walked the terraces after the call off, apologising to everyone who was still there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I am a Lions fan and live 25 miles from BP. I run a local weather station there and the rainfall has been minimul I have just checked the rainfall close to BP and over the last 2 days we have had less than half an inch of rain in 2 days. So what is the problem with the tracks and why do they have to cancel mettings. That amount of rain should easily soak away on the track, so doe's the problem lay with the tracks. Are they packed so hard these days that it stops the rain from soaking away into the surface, this to me seams a logical answer. I could understand it if we had something like 2 inches in a few hours but not with the amount of rain we had over the last 2 days. Something is terribly wrong somewhere. Your rain gauge is not working properly, you're supposed to have it outside you know...... Are you a member of any weather forums? There's been nothing but chatter about the rainfall records tumbling for mm per hour!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Why should the weather 25 miles away be the same as yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Right after leaving my thoughts until today I have no idea why they let people in to pay there money and for fans like me a poole fan it had been raining for a good while before the time of 14.50pm when we arrived it was blatantly obvious huge track was in no fit state to race good sized puddles on the inside of the bends and both the home & back straights were way to icey and the skies were still full of rain. Waiting an extra 30 minutes was a complete waste of time as even a novice speedway fan coming along maybe for the first time would've seen it was a non starter ! And then the manager whom I have the opinion knows not a lot about speedway had the cheek to tell me I should've checked the weather before leaving !! What. Sorry love but I live in nottingham and the forecast seemed okay but obviously not as what folk have said already. Not happy at the shambolic way Leicester speedway has conducted itself and IMO nothing short of a disgrace... The track was prepared with rain in mind, the rainwater lying on the track had not penetrated the shale, rains stops, puddles swept away and graded...Job done, we were not expecting continous rain, just showers, in fact, if it had stopped raining, by heat 7/8, it would have needed watering!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Disagree it was a poor decision all round there was no way the meeting was going to go ahead it was obvious as there was no way the rain was going to stop and by 2.45 the track was already in a poor state never mind waiting till 15.30 ! Some long dark haired Asian looking woman clueless !! And poor ticketing process why no turnstiles would speed up entry to the stadium. And finally there should be a sign at the gate of entry informing the procedure of a postponement regarding refunds , as if I'd known I would've waited outside the stadium upon waiting the decision !! Rant over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Disagree it was a poor decision all round there was no way the meeting was going to go ahead it was obvious as there was no way the rain was going to stop and by 2.45 the track was already in a poor state never mind waiting till 15.30 ! Some long dark haired Asian looking woman clueless !! And poor ticketing process why no turnstiles would speed up entry to the stadium. And finally there should be a sign at the gate of entry informing the procedure of a postponement regarding refunds , as if I'd known I would've waited outside the stadium upon waiting the decision !! Rant over Which bit did you not understand then? The forecast for us was wrong... The track was prepared for rain showers... The track surface was sealed and there was no rain that penetrated the shale (hence shiny surface and puddles)... If the rain had Stopped, the surface water would have been swept off, and then graded, probably wonder wheeled reveal mostly dry shale... Meeting commences, roughly 30-45 minutes after rain stops... It could have been that simple, bit the shower, wasn't a shower, was it, bloody rained till 6pm !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Just as well it was off as Magic fell ill in the pits and wouldn't have ridden!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Disagree it was a poor decision all round there was no way the meeting was going to go ahead it was obvious as there was no way the rain was going to stop and by 2.45 the track was already in a poor state never mind waiting till 15.30 ! Some long dark haired Asian looking woman clueless !! And poor ticketing process why no turnstiles would speed up entry to the stadium. And finally there should be a sign at the gate of entry informing the procedure of a postponement regarding refunds , as if I'd known I would've waited outside the stadium upon waiting the decision !! Rant over Have you been attending speedway meetings for long ? I don't really understand what you want them to do. The weather forecast turned out to be wrong. They gave it an extra 30 minutes to see if the rain would stop. If it had the meeting could have started. You can use your ticket for another meeting or you can get your money back. If you were so sure the meeting wouldn't be on. Why did you go in the first place. Calling the people who work there Some long dark haired Asian looking woman clueless !! is not really gonna help anyone is it. No one forced you to walk through the entrance to the stadium. Edited May 28, 2014 by nightshift 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Yeah about 35 years and my father was promoter of the title winning national league for long eaton. my question is was don't always trust the weather forecast especially in this country as it was forecasted at the time was difficult to predict the path of the rain !! My disagreement was it was never going to stop the radar at the time on my mobile was spot on it was to last a lot longer than half an hour . Also it should have a sign on the gate explaining rain offs after entry to the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Yeah about 35 years and my father was promoter of the title winning national league for long eaton. Then you should know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I appreciate it wouldn't have taken long for the track to be sorted but all I'm saying is that there was never going to be a let up in the rain and should've called before 3pm as like I said if they'd bothered to look at the radar at 14.30 for the next 2-3 hours was rain !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I appreciate it wouldn't have taken long for the track to be sorted but all I'm saying is that there was never going to be a let up in the rain and should've called before 3pm as like I said if they'd bothered to look at the radar at 14.30 for the next 2-3 hours was rain !! Problem with rain radar is it doesn't show light rain very well, it's a well known fact among amateur forecasters that dark blue on a radar image can be annaprop, (false) and there was a huge amount of dark blue on the radar....!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Lucky for Poole it was rained off.........Leicester would have got their biggest and easiest win of the season!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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