SteveLyric2 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 They've updated it now. The promotion is basically saying forget the quality of the match, you'll be effectively paying to see Darcy Ward. Of course, that's a valid argument in lots of people's eyes. Ward is undeniably a fabulous rider, but in wet conditions with half the opposition being way below EL standard, I still think we're being taken for mugs now. I say this with a heavy heart as a hard core supporter who has only missed 1 home meeting in 4 years, and that was because I was on holiday abroad. I'm hoping for an early rain off and a restaging at a date when we can see an Elite League team representing Poole. As much as I would always want to see Darcy Ward racing, his return to the full Poole side last Wednesday didn't appear to produce a bigger attendance for the Bees meeting so I hope Jon Cook's intentions are not misguided!! But if it is to be called off, then it would entirely be up to the home promotion and Poole wouldn't want to unduly influence any other promotion's business decisions!!! In fact they would be completely supportive if it was likely to damage the home club's attendance and financial stability!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Hope it gets called off in the best interest of both parties. Lakeside financial suicide because nobody is going to turn up to see this Poole team when they can put there feet up and watch the CL Final and Poole it is just not fair on them Shamek is not riding in the SEC Shamek is riding in a Polish fixture so it is bang out of order that Poole are not granted a facility for Shamek. Lakeside called off a fixture with Poole last year when just 1 rider missing and because of that Poole scrapped in to the play offs just a head of them. Lakeside need these 3 points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Well i have no intention of going to this meeting, but more because ive learnt over the many seasons speedway that weather does not mix and there is no point in wasting petrol in going to a meeting which is by no means certain to either start or be completed. With the heavy rain we had in south essex overnight and this morning and ive seen the radar images, not many places would have got away with it, im sure the track is already in a soggy state, more rain expected during the afternoon some it likely to be heavy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Why ? Poland should not been allowed to bring forward the Gdansk v Leszno match to the Saturday-as one of the Leszno riders is committed elsewhere-or if Poland went ahead then Leszno would have to use R/R for Pawlicki. Incorrect. The Gdansk v Leszno match has been scheduled for this date as long ago, at least, since 3rd March probably even earlier. There is no facilty to cover his absence: 16.5.1 A Team may utilise a "Facility" to cover the absence of a Rider(s) who: A is on FIM World Speedway Championship duty. B is engaged elsewhere at a BSPA shared or fee Meeting. C is recalled with prior notification, by his FMN for compulsory International or National Championship duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Well i have no intention of going to this meeting, but more because ive learnt over the many seasons speedway that weather does not mix and there is no point in wasting petrol in going to a meeting which is by no means certain to either start or be completed. With the heavy rain we had in south essex overnight and this morning and ive seen the radar images, not many places would have got away with it, im sure the track is already in a soggy state, more rain expected during the afternoon some it likely to be heavy. If you want to throw a little tantrum and stay away do it, but Jon Cook will be damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. He will lose money if he cancels and hardly show much if any profit if he goes ahead. We saw at last years Wolves meeting the track was completely under water 2 hours before the start but the track staff still got it ready and it turned out to be a good meeting, so there is no point in cancelling until Gerald considers the track irretrievable This is not the only Saturday meeting this year. We have all seen how congested Dartford Bridge gets on a Bank Holliday Friday and start times having to be delayed as a result. Coventry were able to cope with a Saturday meeting a few weeks ago so whats wrong with Poole ? The fact is that Muddlo thought he could play fast and loose with the rules as usual and it come back and bit him on the bum, but Lakeside will be the loser financially. Quite honestly I can't think of any other TM apart from Muddlo who would behave like this. Disgraceful individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevtheRev Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) Lakeside called off a fixture with Poole last year when just 1 rider missing and because of that Poole scrapped in to the play offs just a head of them. Lakeside need these 3 points Think you'll find it was Poole that called it off, then wrongly claimed lakeside had agreed to it. As for tonight, if it's on, Ward will be spectacular and with Grajczonek, Janowski and Newman, it's certainly no forgone conclusion, especially if Agent Watt is activated. Edited May 24, 2014 by KevtheRev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Stummings Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 These promoters think people will go and see a Poole team just because Darcy Ward is riding. They have to realise as much as I and lots of other people, I haven't got a endless pocket of money. The Poole team at best is a premier league team, with a couple of Elite League only riders in it tonight. What's really hit home for me is the quality of the Swedish top speedway league. Quality tracks and quality teams. Can you imagine that Poole team tonight in the top league in Sweden or Poland? British Elite League soeedway is a utter joke. As much as I like Darcy Ward I think I'll watch tele. Shame because I love speedway, Lakeside isn't that far from where I live, but hey we all have choice and I'll stick to PL & NL and regrettably Lakeside won't be getting any £ notes out of me tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 The academy was rained off this morning so they have had a bit of rain there overnight, if it stays dry for the rest of the day then it wont be a problem but there are heavy showers forecast as possible, the strength of the Poole side is a bit off putting but if today was a nice sunny day with no threat i would be going tonight no question, i guess i will have to keep on eye on things but not prepared to risk making wasted journeys anymore, if i miss a good meeting because i make a wrong judgement call so be it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 1pm WEATHER CHECK Had a very short shower of rain since 10am Weather Check (merely just enough to wet the pavements) but that soon cleared away and here in Erith (just over in Kent from Purfleet) it's been, and still is, sunshine patches of blue sky and some white fluffy clouds. If MetOffice hour-by-hour forecast for South Ockendon is correct (they don't do Purfleet!), then should be no problems with meeting going ahead. Leaving for track circa 3pm - will do further update before I go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Incorrect. The Gdansk v Leszno match has been scheduled for this date as long ago, at least, since 3rd March probably even earlier. There is no facilty to cover his absence: 16.5.1 A Team may utilise a "Facility" to cover the absence of a Rider(s) who: A is on FIM World Speedway Championship duty. B is engaged elsewhere at a BSPA shared or fee Meeting. C is recalled with prior notification, by his FMN for compulsory International or National Championship duty. In January I believe-however it is behind Lakeside v Poole on the " international speedway calendar "-as has been stated previously Pawlicki could be deemed as withholding his services and a facility would be granted presumably along with a ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Hope it gets called off in the best interest of both parties. Lakeside financial suicide because nobody is going to turn up to see this Poole team when they can put there feet up and watch the CL Final and Poole it is just not fair on them Shamek is not riding in the SEC Shamek is riding in a Polish fixture so it is bang out of order that Poole are not granted a facility for Shamek.First and foremost, 'financial suicide' would be for our promotion agreeing to hire the track and stadium for the day (which is a 4 figure sum) only to then have not a single copper coin through the turnstiles. And whilst some may try and deflect the responsibility onto Lakeside Speedway Club, it should be remembered that the reason Poole are under-strength tonight is purely their problem; the end result of THEIR decision to employ Eastern European riders. When will some clubs ever learn. You made your bed, now lie in it. Or, in other words - TOUGH. DEAL WITH IT! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 First and foremost, 'financial suicide' would be for our promotion agreeing to hire the track and stadium for the day (which is a 4 figure sum) only to then have not a single copper coin through the turnstiles. And whilst some may try and deflect the responsibility onto Lakeside Speedway Club, it should be remembered that the reason Poole are under-strength tonight is purely their problem; the end result of THEIR decision to employ Eastern European riders. When will some clubs ever learn. You made your bed, now lie in it. Or, in other words - TOUGH. DEAL WITH IT! They agreed to it thinking the could have a facility and now we cant so that is tough and the weather will deal with it I am sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorset delight Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 First and foremost, 'financial suicide' would be for our promotion agreeing to hire the track and stadium for the day (which is a 4 figure sum) only to then have not a single copper coin through the turnstiles. And whilst some may try and deflect the responsibility onto Lakeside Speedway Club, it should be remembered that the reason Poole are under-strength tonight is purely their problem; the end result of THEIR decision to employ Eastern European riders. When will some clubs ever learn. You made your bed, now lie in it. Or, in other words - TOUGH. DEAL WITH IT! Enjoy your 20+ win tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) Enjoy your 20+ win tonight!I'll be delighted with it. After the way your despicable promotion shafted us by cancelling your home fixture last season, seeing any club turning you lot over gives me great satisfaction if I'm honest. Blame Fraud and 'The Ginger Whinger' son for the state you've got yourself into; not Lakeside Speedway Club. Edited May 24, 2014 by The Voice Of Reason 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Enjoy your 20+ win tonight! 20 inches of rain hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 If i recall correctly, wasn't this forum full of "gonna be a whitewash " and " not worth going to as hammers are gonna win by 20" posts before Mondays Kings Lynn match ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorset delight Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 I'll be delighted with it. After the way your despicable promotion shafted us by cancelling your home fixture last season, seeing any club turning you lot over gives me great satisfaction if I'm honest. Blame 'The Ginger Whinger' son, not Lakeside Speedway Club! Not blaming anyone,Lakeside or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Stummings Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 First and foremost, 'financial suicide' would be for our promotion agreeing to hire the track and stadium for the day (which is a 4 figure sum) only to then have not a single copper coin through the turnstiles. And whilst some may try and deflect the responsibility onto Lakeside Speedway Club, it should be remembered that the reason Poole are under-strength tonight is purely their problem; the end result of THEIR decision to employ Eastern European riders. When will some clubs ever learn. You made your bed, now lie in it. Or, in other words - TOUGH. DEAL WITH IT! First and foremost, 'financial suicide' would be for our promotion agreeing to hire the track and stadium for the day (which is a 4 figure sum) only to then have not a single copper coin through the turnstiles. And whilst some may try and deflect the responsibility onto Lakeside Speedway Club, it should be remembered that the reason Poole are under-strength tonight is purely their problem; the end result of THEIR decision to employ Eastern European riders. When will some clubs ever learn. You made your bed, now lie in it. Or, in other words - TOUGH. DEAL WITH IT! What utter tripe. There's riders riding in all 3 leagues in the UK, riders not available to two clubs, that's not right either when their clubs ride all on the same night. If you don't want Europeans there will only be the National League left. As for the four figure sum, that's the risk you take if your not insured! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 First and foremost, 'financial suicide' would be for our promotion agreeing to hire the track and stadium for the day (which is a 4 figure sum) only to then have not a single copper coin through the turnstiles. And whilst some may try and deflect the responsibility onto Lakeside Speedway Club, it should be remembered that the reason Poole are under-strength tonight is purely their problem; the end result of THEIR decision to employ Eastern European riders. When will some clubs ever learn. You made your bed, now lie in it. Or, in other words - TOUGH. DEAL WITH IT! I agree Poole should not have facilities for the missing riders and am amassed that the fixture was arranged for this day however, it was and so be it. However, I am surprised that anyone can come over as bitter and twisted as this post. There are a great more important things in this world. Chill and don't get so upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Wonder if Shovvy will make a comeback to the forum tonight after the meeting? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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