waiheke1 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Perhaps matt ford can just tell john cook the meeting is off on the grounds of fairness to the paying public. There weren't any repercussions of doing that last year, so not sure why there would be this this year, cant see how it would be any less "legit" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Maybe if Middlo feels this is now a meeting they can't get anything from he could "rest" Wards injury and go with R/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 This clash of fixture would've been known for sometime, you`d think Poole would've aired their views before now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Maybe if Middlo feels this is now a meeting they can't get anything from he could "rest" Wards injury and go with R/R Darcy tweaked his knee again in the Pairs tonight so who knows?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 FURIOUS manager Neil Middleditch insisted punters were “being robbed” after Poole Pirates had their attempt to draft in Scott Nicholls as a guest blocked by speedway chiefs. The Wimborne Road outfit have been forced into three changes for tomorrow's trip to Lakeside Hammers (7.30pm) with Shamek Pawlicki racing for Leszno in Poland, Vaclav Milik on under-21 duty and new boy Ben Hopwood featuring for Stoke Potters. Rookie and Lakeside asset Jack Kingston fills Hopwood's reserve berth, while Steve Boxall, a rider with Premier League club Rye House, stands in forrMilik. But Middleditch's bug bear is over Poole's inability to bring in Belle Vue's seven-time British champion Nicholls, with Finnish rider Kalle Katajsto, who represents Plymouth in the second tier, taking his place at the last minute. The Pirates team boss, who had yet to find out the reasons behind the refusal, told the Daily Echo: “We were very disappointed not to get the guest facility and we have been punished through no fault of our own. “Lakeside will be putting on a sub-standard meeting and it is disgraceful that the public are being robbed by paying to watch what is meant to be an Elite League meeting. “People want to see the top riders on show but we have had to fill it with Premier League lads because our hands were tied.” Injured star Darcy Ward is set to race, with Middleditch expecting Poole to be back at full strength for Monday's trip to Leicester (3pm). unlucky get on with it instead of looking for loopholes, fixtures have been known for ages and you would think Poole would know the rules! Oh hang on they wouldn't know rules as usually they don't stick to them. Shame to see Middlo crying for help when this is Pooles fault lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Maybe if Middlo feels this is now a meeting they can't get anything from he could "rest" Wards injury and go with R/R If Ward cant be bothered, or cant make it through injury, and if Middleditch is so keen to use Nicholls, he can come in as a guest for Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Middlo needs to have a look at post 28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Middlo needs to have a look at post 28 Wouldn't it be perfectly legal for Poole to use a guest, all they have to do is claim either Pawlicki or Lebedev are withholding their services, the rider gets a ban and Poole gets a guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Wouldn't it be perfectly legal for Poole to use a guest, all they have to do is claim either Pawlicki or Lebedev are withholding their services, the rider gets a ban and Poole gets a guest. Where did you pluck Lebedev from 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) FURIOUS manager Neil Middleditch insisted punters were being robbed after Poole Pirates had their attempt to draft in Scott Nicholls as a guest blocked by speedway chiefs. The Wimborne Road outfit have been forced into three changes for tomorrow's trip to Lakeside Hammers (7.30pm) with Shamek Pawlicki racing for Leszno in Poland, Vaclav Milik on under-21 duty and new boy Ben Hopwood featuring for Stoke Potters. Rookie and Lakeside asset Jack Kingston fills Hopwood's reserve berth, while Steve Boxall, a rider with Premier League club Rye House, stands in forrMilik. But Middleditch's bug bear is over Poole's inability to bring in Belle Vue's seven-time British champion Nicholls, with Finnish rider Kalle Katajsto, who represents Plymouth in the second tier, taking his place at the last minute. The Pirates team boss, who had yet to find out the reasons behind the refusal, told the Daily Echo: We were very disappointed not to get the guest facility and we have been punished through no fault of our own. Lakeside will be putting on a sub-standard meeting and it is disgraceful that the public are being robbed by paying to watch what is meant to be an Elite League meeting. People want to see the top riders on show but we have had to fill it with Premier League lads because our hands were tied. Injured star Darcy Ward is set to race, with Middleditch expecting Poole to be back at full strength for Monday's trip to Leicester (3pm). Roughly translated from Shovlarese into English it reads as follows:- "Poodles Pirates red-faced tight lipped team manager 69 year old Ron Muddlo was furious when he was caught cheating by trying to field an illegal team to avoid a tonking at Lakeside. When the Echo's top sports journo, Phil Space suggested that cheating brought the club into disrepute Mr Muddlo remained red-faced and tight lipped but snarled it's what team managers do , at least al those at Poole do and threatened to send some abusive twitter messages." Edited May 23, 2014 by E I Addio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Aww diddums!! If Lakeside had rode on their normal night....THEY would of had to use 3 PL guests (yes I know Poole would still have had to use 2 PL guests). Funny how it's not ok for their team to be missing 3 riders, but it's ok if it's the opposition!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Hopefully this will be rained off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 FURIOUS manager Neil Middleditch insisted punters were being robbed after Poole Pirates had their attempt to draft in Scott Nicholls as a guest blocked by speedway chiefs. The Wimborne Road outfit have been forced into three changes for tomorrow's trip to Lakeside Hammers (7.30pm) with Shamek Pawlicki racing for Leszno in Poland, Vaclav Milik on under-21 duty and new boy Ben Hopwood featuring for Stoke Potters. Rookie and Lakeside asset Jack Kingston fills Hopwood's reserve berth, while Steve Boxall, a rider with Premier League club Rye House, stands in forrMilik. But Middleditch's bug bear is over Poole's inability to bring in Belle Vue's seven-time British champion Nicholls, with Finnish rider Kalle Katajsto, who represents Plymouth in the second tier, taking his place at the last minute. The Pirates team boss, who had yet to find out the reasons behind the refusal, told the Daily Echo: We were very disappointed not to get the guest facility and we have been punished through no fault of our own. Lakeside will be putting on a sub-standard meeting and it is disgraceful that the public are being robbed by paying to watch what is meant to be an Elite League meeting. People want to see the top riders on show but we have had to fill it with Premier League lads because our hands were tied. Injured star Darcy Ward is set to race, with Middleditch expecting Poole to be back at full strength for Monday's trip to Leicester (3pm). Not first team to do it and unfortunately won't be the last. Coventry went to Eastbourne last Sat with a NL rider instead of Hans, R/R for Harris and no Garrity. Swindon have a 6pt PL rider instead of Kildemand against Eastbourne tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Poole fans will vote with their feet and It will hurt Lakeside in the pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) FURIOUS manager Neil Middleditch insisted punters were “being robbed” after Poole Pirates had their attempt to draft in Scott Nicholls as a guest blocked by speedway chiefs. The Wimborne Road outfit have been forced into three changes for tomorrow's trip to Lakeside Hammers (7.30pm) with Shamek Pawlicki racing for Leszno in Poland, Vaclav Milik on under-21 duty and new boy Ben Hopwood featuring for Stoke Potters. Rookie and Lakeside asset Jack Kingston fills Hopwood's reserve berth, while Steve Boxall, a rider with Premier League club Rye House, stands in forrMilik. But Middleditch's bug bear is over Poole's inability to bring in Belle Vue's seven-time British champion Nicholls, with Finnish rider Kalle Katajsto, who represents Plymouth in the second tier, taking his place at the last minute. The Pirates team boss, who had yet to find out the reasons behind the refusal, told the Daily Echo: “We were very disappointed not to get the guest facility and we have been punished through no fault of our own. “Lakeside will be putting on a sub-standard meeting and it is disgraceful that the public are being robbed by paying to watch what is meant to be an Elite League meeting. “People want to see the top riders on show but we have had to fill it with Premier League lads because our hands were tied.” Injured star Darcy Ward is set to race, with Middleditch expecting Poole to be back at full strength for Monday's trip to Leicester (3pm). What an hilarious remark by Middlo. He didn't consider last year's BV V Poole tv match to be sub- standard, did he? “Lakeside will be putting on a sub-standard meeting and it is disgraceful that the public are being robbed by paying to watch what is meant to be an Elite League meeting..Laughable. Edited May 24, 2014 by BritPete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan jr Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Punters get robbed every week at speedway with under strengthed teams..... its just pooles turn this time ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 I think alot of fans will vote with their feet, whats the point of putting a meeting on with nobody watching except the hardcore who would rather watch a landslide than a competitive match. Anyway alot of rain forecast today and hopefully it will be called off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 I guess this just about wins the award for this week's "Elite League Shambles" - the competition is getting hotter every week!! Remarkable that Poole weren't aware of the pecking order which denies them facilities for Pawlicki and Milik, it's not as if the attachment in post 28 is difficult to interpret. So Middlo "doesn't yet know the reasons for the refusal" - it's called "rules". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) In the article Middlo doesn't say he doesn't know the reasons they can't have a guest. It's the interpretation of the journalist that makes it look that way. Edited May 24, 2014 by grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) In the article Middlo doesn't say he doesn't know the reasons they can't have a guest. It's the interpretation of the journalist that makes it look that way. Actual extract from article "The Pirates team boss, who had yet to find out the reasons behind the refusal" . Says to me that Middlo hadn't been told why and therefore doesn't know. The fact they had planned to use Nicholls, and still don't know why they were turned down, suggests a lack of understanding? Edited May 24, 2014 by salty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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