speedibee Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 It's been more than 3 months since the announcement that Mr Sandhu had bought Brandon from the partner that didn't exist and started trying to trick the Bees supporters that A: he was somehow being forced to develop it : B doing anything whatsoever to do the impossible and find new home for the Speedway and Stock cars . No wonder Sandhu is so successful at making money. It has taken him a few months to distract the attention of the Coventry speedway supporters ,with empty promises and lies and here we are racing towards the end of year one of the 3 years Sandhu knows it will take to turn round the old covenants and gain the relevant permissions to build houses on the only place In the Coventry area where theres any hope of seeing speedway in the future , While we are all distracted by the events of a new season of speedway what do you think Sandhu is doing ? one thing is for sure he's not busy following the Bees he's too damn busy lobbying planning committes etc to get on with his development plans , Open your eyes Bees Fans your track is slipping away quicker than you realise , if you are gullible enough to believe Sandhu will keep his word then ask him and lets see what he has done , but if not get onto Rugby councll and protest at them allowing chnage of use , it's in your hands well it is for an ever decreasing length of time !! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 i did offer through this forum to travel to the midlands, arrange a hall, invite local council/mp local media etc, if anybody wish to look back through this site. I had 3 (at most), "likes"..no official feedback from any fan wating to go ahead with it. i had already had help from a club in the area, but no point if no interest!......one councillor told me they would prefer it if "locals" approached them on the matter, so if he wasnt to bothered, and bees fans were "distant", there was no point in me trying to carry on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 The "3 years" was a clever ploy. It takes any immediacy out of things. I don't know why Coventry fans have done nothing. Fan campaigns had a big effect at Swindon and still it carries on at Oxford with certain positive obstacles being passed all the time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommer Mon Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Here is a suggestion. Bees fans need to establish what the planning designation for the site is to start with. If it is not zoned for leisure they need to make some representation to get the Council to designate it for that use. Once zoned as leisure it would make it much more difficult (but not impossible of course) to build houses etc on it. As others have said a clever ploy to say nothing will happen for 3 years. It does encourage a false sense of security but as speedibee says time travels fast. It would be a massive shame if Brandon disappeared and it is hellishly difficult to identify alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 The opium of the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 i did offer through this forum to travel to the midlands, arrange a hall, invite local council/mp local media etc, if anybody wish to look back through this site. I had 3 (at most), "likes"..no official feedback from any fan wating to go ahead with it. i had already had help from a club in the area, but no point if no interest!......one councillor told me they would prefer it if "locals" approached them on the matter, so if he wasnt to bothered, and bees fans were "distant", there was no point in me trying to carry on! As a longtime Bees fan myself , I thank you for your efforts Colin , I just cannot see why the rest of the Bees supporters are so complacent , I do think they have the Can't happen here mentality . or some sort of misguided belief that at the eleventh hour Sandhu will have a consience and put people before profit for once , ( IMHO if they think that theres no hope for us already) you would think that, Having seen the plight of our near neighbours Cradley Heathens , Leicester, Long Eaton , trying without success to find new homes , they might just have seen the need to get started on the inevitable long drawn out battles ahead , or maybe they have just accepted that the developers have already won so whats the point in fighting , I cant understand how the "threat " of development , and that's all it is at this moment is being left unchecked 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 As a longtime Bees fan myself , I thank you for your efforts Colin , I just cannot see why the rest of the Bees supporters are so complacent , I do think they have the Can't happen here mentality . or some sort of misguided belief that at the eleventh hour Sandhu will have a consience and put people before profit for once , ( IMHO if they think that theres no hope for us already) you would think that, Having seen the plight of our near neighbours Cradley Heathens , Leicester, Long Eaton , trying without success to find new homes , they might just have seen the need to get started on the inevitable long drawn out battles ahead , or maybe they have just accepted that the developers have already won so whats the point in fighting , I cant understand how the "threat " of development , and that's all it is at this moment is being left unchecked brandon is easily my fav speedway venue, love the place, im more than happy to drive up there if the campaign by "locals" get underway, but from afar, it appears quiet on that front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 It would be a tragedy for Speedway if Brandon closed. I hope that something can be done to prevent that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 i really hope something can be done. think a lot of fans of hoping to see what happens in the next 2 years and if nothing found by last year then do something then. I would hope Sandhu will stay true to his word but really can't see it esp with all the problems he has created for the bees this season with regards to the track staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Why not build houses elsewhere? The chances of getting another site in the Coventry area are remote! Brandon stadiums a fantastic facility, why move anywhere else? Why would Sandhu sell Brandon for redevelopment in order to make a lot of money then build another stadium elsewhere that would cost at least £500,000 for a club of Coventrys stature and support? Sandhus made out that the sale of the stadium for redevelopment is set in stone and all permissions for this have been granted! All the issues Sandhu has come out with above are all smokescreens. He wants to sell the stadium and make a load of money with no thought whatsoever to speedway, stock cars, greyhounds and the history, heritage and asset to Coventry is whatsoever! What needs to be found out is what the current planning situation is because I bet that its not set in stone like Sandhu makes out. The stadium may even have a leisure use only restriction on it? Campaigns have to start NOW opposing Sandhus plans because if Brandon Stadium was lost the chances of Coventry getting going elsewhere quickly and at a stadium as good as Brandon would be remote. This is coming from myself an ex Norwich Stars fan - We lost the Firs Stadium in 1964! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 the ball needs to get rolling, but this thread is really not attracting enough people, this tread should really be flooded all in support we dont have time to argue amongst ourselves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 As a longtime Bees fan myself , I thank you for your efforts Colin , I just cannot see why the rest of the Bees supporters are so complacent , I do think they have the Can't happen here mentality . or some sort of misguided belief that at the eleventh hour Sandhu will have a consience and put people before profit for once , ( IMHO if they think that theres no hope for us already) you would think that, Having seen the plight of our near neighbours Cradley Heathens , Leicester, Long Eaton , trying without success to find new homes , they might just have seen the need to get started on the inevitable long drawn out battles ahead , or maybe they have just accepted that the developers have already won so whats the point in fighting , I cant understand how the "threat " of development , and that's all it is at this moment is being left unchecked Might I ask Speedibee what action he is taking. I am another distant speedway fan but I will support any efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Might I ask Speedibee what action he is taking. I am another distant speedway fan but I will support any efforts. I have done the emails to Rugby council and the rugby Mp who is on the house of commons speedway committee , but as of yet nothing else . I was expecting to be a part of a large campaign by now and as i had heard nothing of any such co-ordinated protest I thought I would see if i could kickstart something by starting this thread , I'm shocked to be honest at the apparent lack of interest by other Coventry supporters but if I hear of anything I will definitely make you aware of it so you can add your weight to whatever campaign that may be !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 The "3 years" was a clever ploy. It takes any immediacy out of things. I don't know why Coventry fans have done nothing. Fan campaigns had a big effect at Swindon and still it carries on at Oxford with certain positive obstacles being passed all the time. Nothing being done because they (reading the facebook groups) think Brandon is a mess and in need or renovation or a new stadium being built. What the naive fools dont seem to grasp is Brandon is one of the bets stadiums in the UK and while the terracing might be crumbling a bit any new stadium won't have terracing but will be grass banking. Some fans seem to think they're going to get some new super stadium. I can only assume these people have never been to another speedway stadium and certainly not one of the "new" stadiums at Somerset, Scunthorpe, Redcar or Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I have done the emails to Rugby council and the rugby Mp who is on the house of commons speedway committee , but as of yet nothing else . I was expecting to be a part of a large campaign by now and as i had heard nothing of any such co-ordinated protest I thought I would see if i could kickstart something by starting this thread , I'm shocked to be honest at the apparent lack of interest by other Coventry supporters but if I hear of anything I will definitely make you aware of it so you can add your weight to whatever campaign that may be !! have you tried other places like their Coventry bees Facebook page or twitter? not all bees fans use this site but get a lot on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 have you tried other places like their Coventry bees Facebook page or twitter? not all bees fans use this site but get a lot on there. I think a lot of Coventry fans have taken Mr Sandhu at his word and think 'all will be ok in 3 years time'. If Mr Sandhu had simply said, he had sold the stadium and that was that, there may be more response and action. Fools gold maybe! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 The main issue is we still do not know who has bought the stadium, is it Sandhu or someone else? No planning application has been put in and MPs and concillors do seem keen to keep Coventry Bees. As for a new stadium if it was to ever happen it won't be like what some are hoping for although I'm holding a little hope for the Ricoh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 The main issue is we still do not know who has bought the stadium, is it Sandhu or someone else? No planning application has been put in and MPs and concillors do seem keen to keep Coventry Bees. As for a new stadium if it was to ever happen it won't be like what some are hoping for although I'm holding a little hope for the Ricoh! I think a move to the Ricoh would be a mistake , As soon as Nuneaton Borough or Bedworth United the like got promoted , Speedway would get unceremoniously booted out , or if Coventry City decided to come back even at this late date . Coventry council threw millions at the football to keep them playing in the Ricoh , can you see them doing the same for speedway ? for me the main benefit of Brandon as a venue is the planning permission for sports which is already in place with little restriction , I cant see any possible new site that would afford dog , stock car and speedway promotions the same freedom . I would suggest lobbying Coventry council with a view to them buying the stadium , without planning permission a brownfield site cant be that valuable , but I cant see them taking much notice of one man who doesn't even live in Coventry and apart from the few poster on this thread no-one else seems bothered . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 I would be interested. Always horrible to see threat to any speedway venue. Brandon has always been one of the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sienna Ryan Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Count me in. Brandon has been one of the best venues I have visited over the years. It would be heartbreaking to the sport in general if Coventry were lost to speedway. Do agree though that alot of fans no longer use the bsf site and tend to set up their own facebook or twitter pages so may be more useful doing something on there too as Coventry do have alot of passionate fans. Finding out who now owns the stadium would be first step and where Sandhu is with regards to finding a new venue/land for speedway. Petitions get noticed as well as we are seeing with Midenhall at the moment. The main thing is trying to find a way to get the council to agree that nothing can be built at Brandon until a new stadium in Coventry is in place for them. Or even better they stay at Brandon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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