Scottish Speedway And The Independance Vote

[Blackadder]

Scotland is one of the wealthiest countries, Don't downplay us fellow Scots.

For too long, we have been bullied by the london elite, Mr Salmond is saving us.

It is all about the power junkies who are pushing for the change. Nothing else.

[Guest]

Scotland is one of the wealthiest countries, Don't downplay us fellow Scots.

 

For too long, we have been bullied by the london elite, Mr Salmond is saving us.

 

I had no idea you were a Scot!

[The White Knight]

Jepsen Jensen Racing.

 

Scotland is one of the wealthiest countries, Don't downplay us fellow Scots.

 

For too long, we have been bullied by the london elite, Mr Salmond is saving us.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had no idea you were a Scot!

He isn't - he's an Idiot. I'm not sure where that is though. :rofl: :rofl:

Edited June 13, 2014 by The White Knight

[teddy2706]

Perhaps the pertinent issue is this: British Speedway Promoters Association.

Surely if Scotland achieves independence they will no longer be British?

One can hope that speedway will find its way around this, as far as foreign teams riding in Britain's leagues, I would very much like to watch German, Polish, Danish and Swedish sides racing against home teams.

[Humphrey Appleby]

Perhaps the pertinent issue is this: British Speedway Promoters Association.

Surely if Scotland achieves independence they will no longer be British?

 

I think it's splitting hairs. Scotland would still be on the island of Great Britain, so would still be British from that perspective.

 

Berwick Rangers are members of the Scottish FA despite being located in England, and nobody really cares.

[teddy2706]

 

I think it's splitting hairs. Scotland would still be on the island of Great Britain, so would still be British from that perspective.

 

Berwick Rangers are members of the Scottish FA despite being located in England, and nobody really cares.

Surely the whole point of an independance vote is for Scotland not to be part of Britain? Certainly they will not be part of the United Kingdom?

[SCB]

Surely the whole point of an independance vote is for Scotland not to be part of Britain? Certainly they will not be part of the United Kingdom?

You can't change Geography. Scotland will always, what ever they want, be part of Britain. Geography and politics are NOT the same.

[Blackadder]

Surely the whole point of an independance vote is for Scotland not to be part of Britain? Certainly they will not be part of the United Kingdom?

I think that the whole point is the political power junkies get more power. IMO they should be doing what they are paid to do and stop wasting so much time and money on trying to increase their self-importance. End of rant.

[The White Knight]

You can't change Geography. Scotland will always, what ever they want, be part of Britain. Geography and politics are NOT the same.

"Yea can'nae change the Laws of Physics" either. :shock:

 

Engineering Officer Scott - USS Enterprise.

[macinter]

So who has the copyright to being called British? The Scots will still be British just as much as the English, Welsh and Northern Irish.

[The White Knight]

So who has the copyright to being called British? The Scots will still be British just as much as the English, Welsh and Northern Irish.

Of course they will.

 

They will still be physically part of the British Isles - Independent or not.

[Guest]

Perhaps the pertinent issue is this: British Speedway Promoters Association.

Surely if Scotland achieves independence they will no longer be British?

One can hope that speedway will find its way around this, as far as foreign teams riding in Britain's leagues, I would very much like to watch German, Polish, Danish and Swedish sides racing against home teams.

Why should independent Scots not be British. Or is the country going to be cut away from the rest of Britain and towed elsewhere?

Surely the whole point of an independance vote is for Scotland not to be part of Britain? Certainly they will not be part of the United Kingdom?

The vote is to not be part of the United Kingdom aka Great Britain.

[Humphrey Appleby]

The vote is to not be part of the United Kingdom aka Great Britain.

 

Well except the UK is not Great Britain per se. It so happens that all of Great Britain along with Northern Ireland is part of the UK, and if we're being really pedantic, you could argue the Isle of Wight and other off-shore islands are not Great Britain in the strictest geographical sense but still part of the UK.

 

The official full name of the country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, but it was once United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and could just as easily be the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Going back to the 1950s, and there were apparently serious overtures to make Malta an integral part of the UK, which presumably would have meant another change to the name.

 

As for being 'British' or otherwise - the term could apply both geographically or politically. There are British people in Gibraltar, but they're clearly not Great Britain, but equally Scotland will always be part of Great Britain (unless there's some dramatic geological event, in which case nationality will probably be moot anyway).

[SkidSolo]

I challenge anyone to read the above post and not imagine Sir Humphrey explaining this to Jim Hacker.

[macinter]

From Wikipedia : -

The Kingdom of Great Britain resulted from the union of the kingdoms of England (comprising modern-day England and Wales) and Scotland in 1707. Subsequently, in 1801, the Kingdom of Great Britain united with the neighbouring Kingdom of Ireland forming the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. When five-sixths of Ireland seceded from the United Kingdom in 1922, the state was renamed the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

 

If the Scots vote for independence, which I think is unlikely, they still have as much right to a part of the title of Great Britain as has the rest of the members. So Great Britain is here to stay and Scotland will still be a member. In the event of independence, the Scots want to retain the Monarch as their Head of State, to which they also have every right as she is the Queen of Great Britain, notwithstanding that she is often referred to as the Queen of England.

Which should theoretically mean a new title to the new separate Union of England, Wales and Northern Ireland. That could be interesting.

[fatface]

I imagine in the event of a 'yes' vote, then Glasgow and Edinburgh would still remain as part of British Speedway. Quite simply Scottish Speedway would not be viable and there's no strong reason to cut the Scots adrift for a minority sport like speedway. But there are plenty of imponderables.

What happens if a big sponsor comes in to fund British Speedway including Team GB? Will the BSPA be happy to pass a share of funds over the border?

 

Or, on the other side of the coin..will Edinburgh and Glasgow be happy to pitch in to fund any Team GB activities?

Would EU riders be able to gain employment in Scotland which may not be part of EU?

Would Commonwealth riders and other nationalities be able to gain work permits through a new Scottiish Home Office to ride for Edinburgh/Glasgow?

Would the BSPA allocate any of its major events to Scotland?

Who would fund a Scotland International Team?

The small world of speedway has the same uncertainties that the rest of the post-independence world does for Scotland.

Edited June 18, 2014 by falcace

[Grachan]

So who has the copyright to being called British? The Scots will still be British just as much as the English, Welsh and Northern Irish.

 

The Northern Irish aren't British.

[chucks]

 

The Northern Irish aren't British.

try telling that to half the glasgow rangers supporters

[Fromafar]

If it happen hope Berwick will except my Foreign Currency for admission

[macinter]

 

The Northern Irish aren't British.

They are classed as British Citizens.