Arson fire Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Some of the first part I do. but to make your comments about FANS who genuinely support their team, and you make those churlish comments, is out of order. It's not about having the balls FFS.no it's not!! Do you not Often see people constantly in denial about speedway and those who sometimes criticize..... I genuinely support my team also...and speak the truth, or how I feel... if you don't like it then tough. In speedway there are lots of supporters who can't see any wrong in anything, I know you know this as we've had conversations about it before, so what's your problem?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) I am SURE George will get it right. He has tried to give people what they wanted, me included, an out and out Number One - he has succeeded. The second part of the Plan went wrong - we have to accept that. However if anyone thinks that George is prepared to settle for this - you only had to look at his face last night to know different. It may be that we have to live with a Season that is not as successful as those previous - but - believe me things WILL be put right in the long term. Over the years George has been a great Manager for Newcastle - I, for one, have faith in him. Absolutely. A genuine mistake was made to improve the team., Many teams would/would have soldiered on with the old team, not knowing who to drop because of the varying inconsistency's. Whoever was dropped was going to be wrong in some peoples eyes, and in cases like this, you have to try and improve. It is fan driven as you have said. If that is the case that is 17/7/14, by which time, wtf is the point in making changes. We will be well out of all competitions if the team continues in the same vein. I can only assume that changes made were based around getting Lambert, but what I don't understand is why did we not submit the proposed new team and when it was rejected just not go ahead with it, nobody would have been any the wiser and the promotion would have just had to apologies to DK and say we can't fit him in, he's a big lad, I'm sure he would have gotten over it. We have now dropped ourselves right in it and I can't see anyway out of it. WE are now expecting a lot from Schramm and Rose and practically expecting King to get 13-15 points a meeting. Also I spotted this on the Diamonds report from last night: The bright spark on a dismal night was the debut from new boy Danny King who soon proved that he aims to live up to his new nickname, the King of Diamonds when he took two fine wins and ac couple of seconds to hit double figures. I fail to see how his performance was a bright spark, or is that just me. I like Danny and I think he will do a great job for us and entertain home and away fans but to call his performance last night a bright spark, REALLY!!! I agree with everyone that changes had to be made but I think we have done more harm than good with these changes. One more thing that we have to sort out is the teams performance after the intervals. Whether we are 2 points up down or in the middle we completely fall apart after the interval. We seem to be fine, Jonny grades the track in the interval and we can't cope, can I make a suggestion, if the track is OK and we are beating the opposition, don't grade the track. Rant over. (prepares to be shot down) PS. On another note, I hope that Rose is OK and is not sidelined for too long. PPS. It pains me to say it but congrats to Redcar, you were the better team and fully deserved the win and I hope you kick on from this victory. No need to be, has to be said. I personally don't agree with any interval, if the policy is grade after each set of 4 races. It disturbs the rhythm and pace of the meeting and allows opponents to regroup. Different when the home team needs to regroup, but last night we lost every heat after the interval, I hope it was noted and will be actioned on. Not a problem with that. Bad night for us, and that was with Aaron on an iffy night. I see the Kings Lynn website has Lewis Rose missing from tonight's match at Lakeside but he expects to return for their home match on Thursday. One bit of good news at least. There was extra caution last night, as Lewis did advise he had a plate from a previous accident(bit like Schrammy). It looked like it was a coxis, so went to hospital to get checked over. Well said, I mean where would the likes of Kenni and Rene be if it wasn't for George Lewis Kerr as well. He is a good manager but everyone is human and I have every confidence that he will put it all right again soon. Quite agree, even you. no it's not!! Do you not Often see people constantly in denial about speedway and those who sometimes criticize..... I genuinely support my team also...and speak the truth, or how I feel... if you don't like it then tough. In speedway there are lots of supporters who can't see any wrong in anything, I know you know this as we've had conversations about it before, so what's your problem?? Oh Dear. I think you are not reading my post to you, too much red mist. Edited May 19, 2014 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Aye whatever Dave, I've known you about 200 years so I'm not going to fall out over you taking my initial post out of context 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekimba Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Aye whatever Dave, I've known you about 200 years so I'm not going to fall out over you taking my initial post out of context Sorry guys I thought I had clicked on a Berwick topic by mistake 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I think that is the whole point, as they plainly did not or misjudged the sentiment behind them.What exactly is misjudging the sentiment behind them.What has sentiment got to do with rules.I take it depending on who you are we MIGHT change them.In this case they did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Quite agree, even you. How does this make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilersrus Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 well just like i said King a class rider but will have to carry a reserve or make that 2 . Lingren shram should have gone . henry a big miss. the bottom end of the team just not good enough I heard lingren has a big sponsor in Newcastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondsRock Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I'd just write this season off as a "building year" ala 2009, and we all remember what happened in 2010... Not concerned at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieblackadder fan club Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 that shouldn't give him the automatic right to be in the team, even when we were up against it last night his team mates battled their socks off to give us a one point lead only for him to go out and run a 1-5 in the very next race absolutely shocking performance like many have said he is to much of an enigma and cant be relied on as you don't know which lingren will turn up, could we not bring Hansen in to replace him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 that shouldn't give him the automatic right to be in the team, even when we were up against it last night his team mates battled their socks off to give us a one point lead only for him to go out and run a 1-5 in the very next race absolutely shocking performance like many have said he is to much of an enigma and cant be relied on as you don't know which lingren will turn up, could we not bring Hansen in to replace himThink you will find there are a lot " Lindgrens" in other Teams too.It is the nature of the the sport nowadays, another night in another country comes first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 For me the biggest surprise in these exciting times as Newcastle is the fact Henry was dropped. He is one of the best middle order riders in the league whose away average is very similar to his home season after season. Rosen has clearly got talent also and would have come good. Thought Lindgren would have been the one to make way. Although King will be one of the top riders in the PL there is no way he will attain his starting average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 that shouldn't give him the automatic right to be in the team, even when we were up against it last night his team mates battled their socks off to give us a one point lead only for him to go out and run a 1-5 in the very next race absolutely shocking performance like many have said he is to much of an enigma and cant be relied on as you don't know which lingren will turn up, could we not bring Hansen in to replace him Kenneth Hansen's converted EL average is 8.75 in the PL I'd just write this season off as a "building year" ala 2009, and we all remember what happened in 2010... Not concerned at all. I agree completely with this. Just think next year if King's average will drop about 1.5 points so that would be. If Lewis Rose stays in the main body he could drop about a point. 1. Danny King 9.50 ish 2. 5.00? Robert Lambert if possible 3. Stuart Robson 7.50 ish 4. Lewis Kerr 7 ish 5. New Assesed rider? (7.00) 6. Lewis Rose 3.50 ish 7. Young 3.00 er Not too far of the 2010 team with a smaller average limit. (42.5) Just speculation though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieblackadder fan club Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I'd just write this season off as a "building year" ala 2009, and we all remember what happened in 2010... Not concerned at all. What a load of rubbish how can u say it's a rebuilding year when the season has just started? Do u also think Robson will be around next year??I suppose you also think this was just a building year for alan pardew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Kenneth Hansen's converted EL average is 8.75 in the PL I agree completely with this. Just think next year if King's average will drop about 1.5 points so that would be. If Lewis Rose stays in the main body he could drop about a point. 1. Danny King 9.50 ish 2. 5.00? Robert Lambert if possible 3. Stuart Robson 7.50 ish 4. Lewis Kerr 7 ish 5. New Assesed rider? (7.00) 6. Lewis Rose 3.50 ish 7. Young 3.00 er Not too far of the 2010 team with a smaller average limit. (42.5) Just speculation though what's happened to my thread I started about Newcastle Diamonds 2015 ???,,, (was only having a laugh),,, did'nt actually think anyone would get going on the rebuild :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 What exactly is misjudging the sentiment behind them.What has sentiment got to do with rules.I take it depending on who you are we MIGHT change them.In this case they did not. I'll take it slowly for you then. Why was D/U brought in for in the first instance. What was the sentiment behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I'll take it slowly for you then. Why was D/U brought in for in the first instance. What was the sentiment behind it.no need to take it slowly ,just explain what sentiment being misjudged got to do with rules written down in black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 what's happened to my thread I started about Newcastle Diamonds 2015 ???,,, (was only having a laugh),,, did'nt actually think anyone would get going on the rebuild :-) Just trying to look ahead to the future for the positives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I think that is the whole point, as they plainly did not or misjudged the sentiment behind them. Is there any hint here that we were judged to have bent/broke the rules simply because George is on the MC. and to do nothing would have smacked of bias. With the nous we as fans know he has, I cant believe that someone did not 'backtrack' on an 'understanding he had with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Is there any hint here that we were judged to have bent/broke the rules simply because George is on the MC. and to do nothing would have smacked of bias. With the nous we as fans know he has, I cant believe that someone did not 'backtrack' on an 'understanding he had with them.I would go with that theory.A nod and a wink that went wrong.Mainly because young Lambert is not your average 16 year old and it would have stuck out like a sore thumb if he started piling up the points,which probably would have been the case.BSPA took the easy option and stuck by the rules in this case.Still to much self interest at the Top of the sport IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackHalifax Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 If Robert lambert was available on a 3pt ave in both leagues, something that is not possible once he rode in his first meeting in the elite league why do the Newcastle fans believe Newcastle would be his only option. There are other clubs out there who would throw cash at him as they would any rider who is on a low average and a banker to increase. The guys who have come and turned us over Josh, Richard, Cookie ( he will ), are all doubling up and hopefully with Danny we can compete with these guys. As for the rest of the team, they all have ups and downs but as they have less meetings, all are struggling with finding the right set ups this yr ( include Christian and Anton in this as well ). They need to ride through it and get it sorted, we need to back them, stop dreaming that there is a bottomless pot of cash to keep changing the team, give them a decent race surface to strut their stuff on ( lose the gate and go one line only ) and see where we go. I think the original team would have made the playoffs, I have doubts about the new one, anyone who went to Ipswich or Plymouth( get the dvd ) would see them all digging deep for the club, equally the last 2 home matches haven't left any rider with a smile on his face. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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