woofers Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Eastbourne's a dump Very constructive comment, well done, your parents and friends must be proud of you. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbo Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 What a ridiculous post, are you real do you call yourself a Speedway supporter, hope you paid your dues and watched a crap meeting. If you were a true speedway supporter you should be complaining about the riders you haven't been able to watch at such a meeting as this. Speedway supporters should not be expected to pay admission prices to watch third division riders in place of a team's number 1, what a way to treat supporters. Time we got it all sorted out if these meetings take place, the British leagues should be able to replace their teams riders legally. Time it was all sorted out before this great sport disappears! What a ridiculous post, are you real do you call yourself a Speedway supporter, hope you paid your dues and watched a crap meeting. If you were a true speedway supporter you should be complaining about the riders you haven't been able to watch at such a meeting as this. Speedway supporters should not be expected to pay admission prices to watch third division riders in place of a team's number 1, what a way to treat supporters. Time we got it all sorted out if these meetings take place, the British leagues should be able to replace their teams riders legally. Time it was all sorted out before this great sport disappears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I've read some garbage on this forum over the years but some of the comments on this thread are truely in cloud cuckoo land. How any Coventry fan has the audacity to criticise the Eastbourne track is beyond belief, given the problems you have had this year and in the past. The track grading comment comes up every year but as usual no one has any real evidence of this, it seems to be one of those folklore tales that people love to regurgitate without substance. There wasn't a lot of grading done last night, the track was grippy on the outside and slick on the inside. Now perhaps this was actually better from a safety point of view? We are told that grippy tracks and modern speedway bikes are dangerous in inexperienced hands and it is easier for less experienced riders to slide the bike on slicker surfaces. So, given the makeup of the Coventry team last night perhaps it was better for there to be an inside line that they could, (and did), ride. The grippy outside was no problem for Bridger, Michelson, Woodward etc. although unfortunately Ryan Fisher had trouble handling it. The meeting was horribly drawn out, everyone was fed up with it, the Eastbourne fans gave a mighty cheer toward the referee when the 2 minute warning was sounded, and the responsibility the delays lies squarely with the referee. We wouldn't have had this problem when Frank Ebdon was in charge! It would seem that 2 posters on here have a particular issue with Eastboure as they have only sweeping negative comments to make, were you actually at the meeting or did you get all your views from the gambling site feed? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Drawn out meetings are (another) scourge....rPerhaps referees should be held to account and their match fee witheld if they can't get through 15 heats in 2 hours... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I've read some garbage on this forum over the years but some of the comments on this thread are truely in cloud cuckoo land. How any Coventry fan has the audacity to criticise the Eastbourne track is beyond belief, given the problems you have had this year and in the past. The track grading comment comes up every year but as usual no one has any real evidence of this, it seems to be one of those folklore tales that people love to regurgitate without substance. There wasn't a lot of grading done last night, the track was grippy on the outside and slick on the inside. Now perhaps this was actually better from a safety point of view? We are told that grippy tracks and modern speedway bikes are dangerous in inexperienced hands and it is easier for less experienced riders to slide the bike on slicker surfaces. So, given the makeup of the Coventry team last night perhaps it was better for there to be an inside line that they could, (and did), ride. The grippy outside was no problem for Bridger, Michelson, Woodward etc. although unfortunately Ryan Fisher had trouble handling it. The meeting was horribly drawn out, everyone was fed up with it, the Eastbourne fans gave a mighty cheer toward the referee when the 2 minute warning was sounded, and the responsibility the delays lies squarely with the referee. We wouldn't have had this problem when Frank Ebdon was in charge! It would seem that 2 posters on here have a particular issue with Eastboure as they have only sweeping negative comments to make, were you actually at the meeting or did you get all your views from the gambling site feed? I agree with about 90% of what you say here but drawn out meetings aren't totally the referee's fault. Accidents, intervals - why did we have one on Saturday when we had had enough delays anyway ? - failure to communicate properly and other matters outside of their control all count. Kent on bank holiday Monday was a good example. 3 hours of crap racing and unnecessary hold ups but you should have seen how fast the meeting progressed when there was a possibility that the curfew might be breached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 watched a Belle Vue meeting off a feed a few weeks ago, 15 heats all done and dusted just after 9pm.... that's how to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Ten heats done in 50 minutes at kent last monday to beat the rain. It just shows what's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophies Mate Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I agree with about 90% of what you say here but drawn out meetings aren't totally the referee's fault. Accidents, intervals - why did we have one on Saturday when we had had enough delays anyway ? - failure to communicate properly and other matters outside of their control all count. Kent on bank holiday Monday was a good example. 3 hours of crap racing and unnecessary hold ups but you should have seen how fast the meeting progressed when there was a possibility that the curfew might be breached. Intervals are not there just to annoy the spectators try standing on the centre green for 2 to 3 hours without being able to have a toilet break or the chance to have a hot drink or something to eat? Trust me if you were doing that you'd want a break of 10 - 15 minutes to be able to do that. Also I'm sure you will find that most riders take advantage of the break to adjust bikes, have a team talk etc. At the end of the day if there are delays due to riders having a crash then they need to be checked out especially on Saturday it was not clear straight away if Timo had done serious damage to his collar bone and needed to be checked out properly before deciding if he was ok to carry on or should we not bother with these checks and say sod it you will be ok stop moaning and get back your bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Intervals are not there just to annoy the spectators. Try standing on the centre green for 2 to 3 hours without being able to have a toilet break or the chance to have a hot drink or something to eat? Trust me if you were doing that you'd want a break of 10 - 15 minutes to be able to do that. I just don't get that. What's wrong with having something to eat/drink just prior to the meeting and using the loo? There must be some weak bladders out there. I drive to Coventry from Leicester, watch the match and second half and then drive back again, all without the need to visit the loo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophies Mate Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I just don't get that. What's wrong with having something to eat/drink just prior to the meeting and using the loo? There must be some weak bladders out there. I drive to Coventry from Leicester, watch the match and second half and then drive back again, all without the need to visit the loo.Well arent you the lucky one! You may want to take into consideration that some people go to work prior to going to the meeting and dont always have chance to have something to eat before their duties start but of course that doesnt matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Well arent you the lucky one! You may want to take into consideration that some people go to work prior to going to the meeting and dont always have chance to have something to eat before their duties start but of course that doesnt matter So start the meeting 15 minutes later so those who are in work before the meeting can haver a wee and a burger. That way us fans don't have to stand around 3/4 of a way into a speedway meeting! Cracks me up when clubs have an interval after heat 11 or 12 and then we have a natural break after heat 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Intervals are not there just to annoy the spectators try standing on the centre green for 2 to 3 hours without being able to have a toilet break or the chance to have a hot drink or something to eat? Trust me if you were doing that you'd want a break of 10 - 15 minutes to be able to do that. Also I'm sure you will find that most riders take advantage of the break to adjust bikes, have a team talk etc. At the end of the day if there are delays due to riders having a crash then they need to be checked out especially on Saturday it was not clear straight away if Timo had done serious damage to his collar bone and needed to be checked out properly before deciding if he was ok to carry on or should we not bother with these checks and say sod it you will be ok stop moaning and get back your bike? I don't think they are there to annoy spectators but that's the effect they have. I don't know a single fan who likes them and to have one when the meeting is drawn out anyway - and you certainly can't help delays for injuries - simply makes matters worse. I'm not quite sure why someone would need to be stood on the centre green for 3 hours - that's ridiculous - and when I did flag marshalling at Mildenhall I used to take a drink with me and made sure I didn't need the can before I went out there. To me, making your customers stand around getting cold(or hot or bored) simply so your track staff can have a drink is plain daft and that's almost certainly why a lot of tracks don't have them any more. If Belle Vue can go through a meeting without one, so can Eastbourne. Edited May 20, 2014 by Halifaxtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Barrett Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Eastbourne's a dump What an intelligent post. I can only assume you have graduated from the junior forum and not learned how to talk with the grown ups yet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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