King's Lynn V Swindon 14/05/14 Sky Meeting

[van wolfswinkel]

well-earned point at the favs, but lead thrown away yet again. Gusto must go now.

[Crazy robin]

Pleased to win the meeting, Swindon deserved their point. Racing pretty dire in all honesty, track lovely and smooth but too grippy down low.

 

Scott rode his nuts off but lacked speed and was a poor replacement for Kenneth in all honesty. Seems folly to complain after such a good start to the season but Rory and Robert are both causing bit of concern, the skipper should be doing so much better and Robert needs to be riding more. Unlikely he'll be able to ride in the PL this year which is a shame.

 

We are a team full of promise but there is much room for improvement and at the moment Poole look a cut above the rest over a two leg final.

 

Could Robert not do some modelling as he's a good looking lad

[semion]

Looks like the refs cock up in heat 2 cost Lynn a point.

[Steve0]

Well done King's Lynn, another great comeback and that was with Lambert & Rory really struggling.

For Swindon once again they fell apart in the second half of the meeting

 

I agree that Simon is struggling but thought it was poor the way Rosco spoke about him live on sky

What was poor was Simon's performance - not just tonight but every meeting! I would have sacked him live on Sky!

[Aces51]

Perhaps, instead of slagging off his own rider on TV, which shows a complete lack of basic management skills, Rosco might ask himself why he so spectacularly fails to motivate his team when they are in match winning situations. After all, he chose these riders didn't he?

[orion]

Perhaps, instead of slagging off his own rider on TV, which shows a complete lack of basic management skills, Rosco might ask himself why he so spectacularly fails to motivate his team when they are in match winning situations. After all, he chose these riders didn't he?

When you won two El titles with to Different clubs made play off after play off and your so good that you get pick to Manager Team Gb I dont' think you should question Rosco skills as a Tm his record speaks for itself ...not sure if you know but Swindon were the first team to take a point off Kl this year . ....Fair play to you thou you know all about bad Tm's after all you had Chris Morton who was the worst tm of all time

Edited May 14, 2014 by orion

[Crazy robin]

When you won two El titles with to Different clubs made play off after play off and your so good that you get pick to Manager Team Gb I dont' think you should question Rosco skills as a Tm his record speaks for itself ...not sure if you know but Swindon were the first team to take a point off Kl this year . ....Fair play to you thou you know all about bad Tm's after all you had Chris Morton who was the worst tm of all time

 

Can't wait for the response from Aces51 to those facts & there was me thinking Simon scoring points & earning more money would be a motivation.

 

Rosco did well to hold his thoughts in.

[Aces51]

Every rider is fine apart from the waste of space.My name is Simon I have new engines coming over what is going to make me even more slower than I was before (If possible). Simon rides a bike like it has stabilisers on it

I understand the frustration with Simon and clearly his performances are unacceptable.

 

However, a professional manager deals with it in private. You speak to him face to face, tell him what is required of him and the consequences of his not achieving those targets. You find out what he thinks I'd v causing the problem and offer whatever assistance you can to help.

 

What you do not do is slag him off in public. That simply embarrasses and humiliates him and helps destroy whatever little confidence he may have left.

[Steve0]

I understand the frustration with Simon and clearly his performances are unacceptable.

However, a professional manager deals with it in private. You speak to him face to face, tell him what is required of him and the consequences of his not achieving those targets. You find out what he thinks I'd v causing the problem and offer whatever assistance you can to help.

What you do not do is slag him off in public. That simply embarrasses and humiliates him and helps destroy whatever little confidence he may have left.

And you don't think Rosco has done that? There comes a time when enough is enough - well said Rosco now follow through and sack him!

[Crazy robin]

I understand the frustration with Simon and clearly his performances are unacceptable.

 

However, a professional manager deals with it in private. You speak to him face to face, tell him what is required of him and the consequences of his not achieving those targets. You find out what he thinks I'd v causing the problem and offer whatever assistance you can to help.

 

What you do not do is slag him off in public. That simply embarrasses and humiliates him and helps destroy whatever little confidence he may have left.

 

I'd imagine he's already tried that & you havn't had to put up with reading the excuse after excuse from Simon in the local rag since the season started or you'd feel exactly as the majority of Swindon fans do.

[orion]

 

What you do not do is slag him off in public. That simply embarrasses and humiliates him and helps destroy whatever little confidence he may have left.

Depends ...if it was me my attitude would be to Show what I could do if he said that ....The bottom line is Rosco record speaks for itself so was he does works

[tellboy]

Pleased to win the meeting, Swindon deserved their point. Racing pretty dire in all honesty, track lovely and smooth but too grippy down low.

 

Scott rode his nuts off but lacked speed and was a poor replacement for Kenneth in all honesty. Seems folly to complain after such a good start to the season but Rory and Robert are both causing bit of concern, the skipper should be doing so much better and Robert needs to be riding more. Unlikely he'll be able to ride in the PL this year which is a shame.

 

We are a team full of promise but there is much room for improvement and at the moment Poole look a cut above the rest over a two leg final.

Rory is a worry at the moment,but how can you really have concerns with Lambert.He's 16 into his second month of his EL debut season and will have upped his starting average I would have thought.I said at the start of the season I will be happy if he averages over 3.And he must put pressure on himself, aswell as I thought the fans may expect too much to early from him because of his undoubted talent.In his short career he has already beaten some good riders.

Incidentally we would have walked it tonight with Kenneth in the side.

Edited May 14, 2014 by tellboy

[Crazy robin]

Rory is a worry at the moment,but how can you really have concerns with Lambert.He's 16 into his second month of his EL debut season and will have upped his starting average I would have thought.I said at the start of the season I will be happy if he averages over 3.And he must put pressure on himself, aswell as I thought the fans may expect too much to early from him because of his undoubted talent.In his short career he has already beaten some good riders.

 

Good looking lad as well

[Star Fever]

Pleased to win the meeting, Swindon deserved their point. Racing pretty dire in all honesty, track lovely and smooth but too grippy down low.

Scott rode his nuts off but lacked speed and was a poor replacement for Kenneth in all honesty. Seems folly to complain after such a good start to the season but Rory and Robert are both causing bit of concern, the skipper should be doing so much better and Robert needs to be riding more. Unlikely he'll be able to ride in the PL this year which is a shame.

We are a team full of promise but there is much room for improvement and at the moment Poole look a cut above the rest over a two leg final.

 

Definitely right about Nicholls - he was never going to be an adequate substitute for KB in heat 15. Kenneth would most likely have gated with Niels and though Kildemand might have got him we'd have got the 4-2 needed for all 3 points. Having cited Nicholls, of course Rory's poor performance didn't help one little bit but I feel that NKI/KB in the last heat would've compensated.

 

Doesn't bode well for the farce at B'ham tomorrow either unless Nicholls speeds himself up, and I see Watt only got 2pts at Poole tonight too. Can't see Fricke doing as well as Niklas either so if we get a point there it'll be a miracle.

 

And Heat 9 when both Lynn riders jumped the start

I guess your rose-coloured glasses didn't see Worrall do the same then? Actually the replay clearly showed nobody moved before the tapes rose anyway - so correct decision by the ref IMO.

 

In heat 2 however maybe Rose should've stayed down - then the ref might have seen the two nudges he got from Worrall in the replay.

Edited May 14, 2014 by Star Fever

[Crazy robin]

 

 

Definitely right about Nicholls - he was never going to be an adequate substitute for KB in heat 15. Kenneth would most likely have gated with Niels and though Kildemand might have got him we'd have got the 4-2 needed for all 3 points. Having cited Nicholls, of course Rory's poor performance didn't help one little bit but I feel that NKI/KB in the last heat would've compensated.

 

Doesn't bode well for the farce at B'ham tomorrow either unless Nicholls speeds himself up, and I see Watt only got 2pts at Poole tonight too. Can't see Fricke doing as well as Niklas either so if we get a point there it'll be a miracle.

 

I guess your rose-coloured glasses didn't see Worrall do the same in that heat then? Actually the replay clearly showed nobody moved before the tapes rose anyway - so correct decision by the ref IMO.

 

In heat 2 however maybe Rose should've stayed down - then the ref might have seen the two nudges he got from Worrall in the replay.

 

 

 

 

Davey will be fine tomorrow as he's not riding against Poole.

[Aces51]

When you won two El titles with to Different clubs made play off after play off and your so good that you get pick to Manager Team Gb I dont' think you should question Rosco skills as a Tm his record speaks for itself ...not sure if you know but Swindon were the first team to take a point off Kl this year . ....Fair play to you thou you know all about bad Tm's after all you had Chris Morton who was the worst tm of all time

Those excellent achievements are in the past. Just as everyone is judging Simon on his current performances so the same applies to Rosco. Anyone with even a basic understanding of management skills will understand why you do not do what Rosco did tonight.

 

Just try honestly to imagine yourself in that position at work. What is more likely to get you to work better. Being embarrassed by your manager in front of your work colleagues and members of the public or a word in private, telling you in no uncertain terms what is required of you and with constructive suggestions to help you improve. It is basic in any management manual and common sense.

 

I could sink to your level and say that considering the level Rosco reached as a rider, he might find the constructive suggestions on how to improve difficult but I won't. 😁

Edited May 14, 2014 by Aces51

[bigcatdiary]

Close meeting but some dreadful racing on we were told one of the best racetracks in the UK, yeah right.

 

Onto Lakeside next week, what joy.

[Steve0]

Those excellent achievements are in the past. Just as everyone is judging Simon on his current performances so the same applies to Rosco. Anyone with even a basic understanding of management skills will understand why you do not do what Rosco did tonight.

Just try honestly to imagine yourself in that position at work. What is more likely to get you to work better. Being embarrassed by your manager in front of your work colleagues and members of the public or a word in private, telling you in no uncertain terms what is required of you and with constructive suggestions to help you improve. It is basic in any management manual and common sense.

I could sink to your level and say that considering the level Rosco reached as a rider, he might find the constructive suggestions on how to improve difficult but I won't.

Looks like you did sink to his level Edited May 14, 2014 by Steve0

[Aces51]

Looks like you did sink to his level

Sense of humour bypass?

 

I can understand and agree with a lot of the opinions being expressed about Simon but as a manager you deal with it in private. I am sure he will have spoken to him previously but he still should not follow that up in public.

[Haza]

Major concern for me is Rory if he was scoring like he should be we would walk all home meetings - really don't no what the problem is with him he's far far better rider than this .