theblueboy Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Those excellent achievements are in the past. Just as everyone is judging Simon on his current performances so the same applies to Rosco. Anyone with even a basic understanding of management skills will understand why you do not do what Rosco did tonight. Just try honestly to imagine yourself in that position at work. What is more likely to get you to work better. Being embarrassed by your manager in front of your work colleagues and members of the public or a word in private, telling you in no uncertain terms what is required of you and with constructive suggestions to help you improve. It is basic in any management manual and common sense. I could sink to your level and say that considering the level Rosco reached as a rider, he might find the constructive suggestions on how to improve difficult but I won't. Anyone know what level Mourinho got to? He doesn't seem to struggle to motivate. *edited for extremely pi$$ poor English* Edited May 14, 2014 by theblueboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'm sure Rory himself is well aware of how poor he is performing, he only has to look at his pay cheque. The beauty is the team is picking up results without having all 7 riders firing on all cylinders. Is Roscoe now the Special one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Those excellent achievements are in the past. Just as everyone is judging Simon on his current performances so the same applies to Rosco. Anyone with even a basic understanding of management skills will understand why you do not do what Rosco did tonight. Just try honestly to imagine yourself in that position at work. What is more likely to get you to work better. Being embarrassed by your manager in front of your work colleagues and members of the public or a word in private, telling you in no uncertain terms what is required of you and with constructive suggestions to help you improve. It is basic in any management manual and common sense. I could sink to your level and say that considering the level Rosco reached as a rider, he might find the constructive suggestions on how to improve difficult but I won't. As I said before anyone with any idea about anything would tell you it's the results of your actions that counts and what Rosco did tonight is the same as he.s has always done .. As I said his record speaks for itself . Some of the greatest Football managers of all time slag players off in front of other players, one of them was a certain Alex Ferguson ..maybe he got it wrong as well ? Edited May 14, 2014 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) very poor management to have a pop at one of your team 'in public'.. unprofessional.. it wont motivate the person concerned and will also have the rest of the team wondering, (whether they agree with rosco's sentiments or not)... 'will I be the next one who gets shown up on live tv?'.... you win as a team, and lose as a team, any individual criticism should be done 'in house' thought his emotional 'Look at me, I care more than they do' outbursts had been consigned to history.. obviously not... Team gb needs a leader who is rational, a cool communicator when under pressure and definitely not someone who takes poor performance 'personally'.. Edited May 14, 2014 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 I feel this format is very difficult and in some ways gives away teams an advantage. Hence the amount of away wins so far. Not liking it to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Never mind Stars fans - chin up, you have Davey Watt guesting tomorrow!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 very poor management to have a pop at one of your team 'in public'.. unprofessional.. it wont motivate the person concerned and will also have the rest of the team wondering, (whether they agree with rosco's sentiments or not)... 'will I be the next one who gets shown up on live tv?'.... you win as a team, and lose as a team, any individual criticism should be done 'in house' thought his emotional 'Look at me, I care more than they do' outbursts had been consigned to history.. obviously not... Team gb needs a leader who is rational, a cool communicator when under pressure and definitely not someone who takes poor performance 'personally'.. Rosco just confirmed what 99% of fans watching were already thinking.Better straight talking than making excuses for the defeat .Simon is far to Inconsistant and has been about a while and is not moving to the next level which a lot of fans thought he would do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Another late meeting fold by the Robins when the Stars were there for the taking. Decent save tho in the last heat. Scottie was never going to be an adequate replacement for Bjerre so they were already vulnerable and as expected when Schlein is expected to step up to the mark he disappears. Cost his team all 3 points tonight. Kildermand, like heat 13 at Wolves, making the wrong move and costing vital points. North is doing a splendid job but i find his comment odd when interviewed "we should have won on Monday". If your captain had beaten someone and you hadn't collapsed quicker than a deck of cards...... quite possibly. Good rescue also by the Stars, the injury to Bjerre is making them vulnerable right now. Major concern for me is Rory if he was scoring like he should be we would walk all home meetings - really don't no what the problem is with him he's far far better rider than this . Really? Not sure he is FAR better. But should do much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 I understand the frustration with Simon and clearly his performances are unacceptable. However, a professional manager deals with it in private. You speak to him face to face, tell him what is required of him and the consequences of his not achieving those targets. You find out what he thinks I'd v causing the problem and offer whatever assistance you can to help. What you do not do is slag him off in public. That simply embarrasses and humiliates him and helps destroy whatever little confidence he may have left. absolutely spot on 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 I was looking forward to seeing young Lambert after all that had previously been said about him. I have to say I was disappointed but everyone has an off night and Lewis Kerr more than made up for his performance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Rosco says: http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/11213480.Robins_boss_ponders_Gustafsson_s_future/ very poor management to have a pop at one of your team 'in public'.. unprofessional.. it wont motivate the person concerned and will also have the rest of the team wondering, (whether they agree with rosco's sentiments or not)... 'will I be the next one who gets shown up on live tv?'.... you win as a team, and lose as a team, any individual criticism should be done 'in house' thought his emotional 'Look at me, I care more than they do' outbursts had been consigned to history.. obviously not... Team gb needs a leader who is rational, a cool communicator when under pressure and definitely not someone who takes poor performance 'personally'.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 So is Simon going to number 2 or is Roscoe getting rid ? Confused.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Never mind Stars fans - chin up, you have Davey Watt guesting tomorrow!!! Yeah,, . and he'll be riding for you next Thursday. That would sure wipe the smile off your face Tbh when you cant beat a fast track reserve the waste of space does not deserve respect. Wrong... Every riders deserves respect. Simon wasn't the worst rider last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Really? Not sure he is FAR better. But should do much better. Is there enough of a difference between the two words to argue? Bottom line is that he really ought to be scoring seven or eight points at least every home meeting. A top heavy team can't really afford to carry a heat leader. My comment about Robert earlier in the thread referred to his lack of racing really, he is doing fine over the season as a whole so far but needs to sharpen his gating which extra racing will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 What was poor was Simon's performance - not just tonight but every meeting! I would have sacked him live on Sky! How gracious of you . You really do know how to put the boot in. .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Swindon threw that away rather than a Stars turnaround. 6 up after 9 Swindon had enough to look after the lead. Batchelor after 2 wins failed to score against Porsing who he should be beating comfortably. Kildermand fell in heat 13 which would have been a 4-2 at worst rather than 5-1 then an unfortunate EF from Worrall in 14 In the 2nd half of the meeting it was the Swindon heatleaders that failed the side. The 4 point swing from Batchelor and Kildermand would have seen Swindon take 3 points. It's ok criticising Henka's little soldier but his performance was matched by Schlein and Lambert so was counteracted as such. For me, the turnaround firmly points the finger at Swindon's 1 & 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) Rosco says: http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/11213480.Robins_boss_ponders_Gustafsson_s_future/ So if Rosco is this brilliant team manager, why hasn't he already tried moving SG to number 2? Just asking Edited May 15, 2014 by Star Lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 I would have thought if Roscoe is sticking with Simon he should be looking at ways he can help the lad, which in turn would help the team. After all Roscoe has the title of TEAM Manager. I wonder if he will be slagging of the likes of Cook/Harris etc, live on TV if they dont perfom at The World Team Cup ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 very poor management to have a pop at one of your team 'in public'.. unprofessional.. it wont motivate the person concerned and will also have the rest of the team wondering, (whether they agree with rosco's sentiments or not)... 'will I be the next one who gets shown up on live tv?'.... you win as a team, and lose as a team, any individual criticism should be done 'in house' thought his emotional 'Look at me, I care more than they do' outbursts had been consigned to history.. obviously not... Team gb needs a leader who is rational, a cool communicator when under pressure and definitely not someone who takes poor performance 'personally'.. Sense of humour bypass? I can understand and agree with a lot of the opinions being expressed about Simon but as a manager you deal with it in private. I am sure he will have spoken to him previously but he still should not follow that up in public. For me Aces his reaction was more to do with the frustration of losing 2 winning positions in a week and i agree that way of doing things certainly is not the way to go.I like Rosco and as Orion says his record is there to be seen but as GB boss he will have learn to take alot of disapointment along the way.As for us to get back as a world force it will be a long old haul ahead, and i don't believe it will happen in my lifetime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtree123 Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Pleased to win the meeting, Swindon deserved their point. Racing pretty dire in all honesty, track lovely and smooth but too grippy down low. Scott rode his nuts off but lacked speed and was a poor replacement for Kenneth in all honesty. Seems folly to complain after such a good start to the season but Rory and Robert are both causing bit of concern, the skipper should be doing so much better and Robert needs to be riding more. Unlikely he'll be able to ride in the PL this year which is a shame. We are a team full of promise but there is much room for improvement and at the moment Poole look a cut above the rest over a two leg final. Didn't think it would be long before Young Robert started to get slatted!!!!!!!!! he is going to have off nights, but speaking to his family he had mechanical problems...he changed things after each heat and managed to rectify the problem, I know it is a shame but give him some slack he is still only 16!!!!! I know there are a lot of haters out there but His TRUE FANS know the truth of what have been going on...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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