*JJ Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 to be honest i don't want to rain on the Diamond's parade - fair play to them for pushing the boat out - BUT Danny King should not be in the PL he should be too good for that He is - you should have seen him wiping the floor with Tai Woffinden last Wednesday! However, prior to that, he had only done about four meetings in six weeks - he needs to earn same as everyone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 BUT Danny King should not be in the PL he should be too good for that  Agreed but the EL is a shambles and the PL is where it's at in British speedway The PL is turning into a shambles with signing all these riders who with be double up and missing meetings for there PL club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 BUT Danny King should not be in the PL he should be too good for that  Agreed but the EL is a shambles and the PL is where it's at in British speedway no one is 'too good',,, if the averages allow, why not ??? it might actually help others improve, is that not what the reserve draft system is for ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniew Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Everyone saying 3 pointer and does Lambert fit once he has an actual average, what if the thinking now, after the ruling is wait until he has an average then swap for Schramm and keep the 3 pointer? discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 lambert runs on a German licencestill??..even though he's going to ride for his country next month?? That's fair enough then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Everyone saying 3 pointer and does Lambert fit once he has an actual average, what if the thinking now, after the ruling is wait until he has an average then swap for Schramm and keep the 3 pointer? discuss. sounds like a good plan ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Everyone saying 3 pointer and does Lambert fit once he has an actual average, what if the thinking now, after the ruling is wait until he has an average then swap for Schramm and keep the 3 pointer? discuss. We are talking about Robert Lambert ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 You mean like he is storming the EL this year, let's be clear here Kings average has dropped so much he can now double up. Â Worrying signs for me as our top GB riders all now appear to want to ride in the PL, not hard to see why GB is in the state it is. funnily enough though, once his ave dropped... He then got a max, am I cynical?? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 funnily enough though, once his ave dropped... He then got a max, am I cynical?? He won't be the first rider who has went down that road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Its a shame Lambert was not permitted to join Kings Lynn Reserves. With no Lambert will these 2 changes actually improve the Diamonds ? Or has George dumped them right in the clarts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) You have to use 3 separators for multiples. x1.666 is the same as ÷0.6 1.666 is NOT 1.6. You HAVE to multiply by 0.6 and divide by 0.6, nothing else will do. Lets take a 10 point PL rider if you multiply by 0.6 you get an EL average of 6.00. If you divide by 1.6 you get 6.25.  The conversion figure is 0.6.   As for Lambert, a rider who didn't achieve an average last season cannot double up. Edited May 9, 2014 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythman666 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Really thought Rosen would kick on this season and become a real force in The PL,looked to have all the credentials when I saw him last season. Not sure why it hasn't worked out for him. Â Â Have to feel for Henry, has often been Newcastles best visitor to Berwick and looked superb against Peterborough the other night....cant see him being without a team for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) As fir Lambert, a rider who didn't achieve an average last season cannot double up. That's fair enough, didn't realise that. Seems a shame to penalise a young Britt but rules are rules and nothing should be more important than that. Edited May 9, 2014 by Bagpuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinder Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Schrammy has had a couple of poor meetings this season, but still upped his average. I also think he will increase it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 That's fair enough, didn't realise that. Seems a shame to penalise a young Britt but rules are rules and nothing should be more important than that. Stupid rule I agree. It's why Ellis couldn't double up at Lakeside and Kerr at Coventry among others. Â This one does make me sort of agree with Lambert that the BSPA are screwing him over. I know it's the rule but it's a stupid rule and IMO it should be dropped instantly. Let the lad double up. By doubling up at Newcastle you have to fancy he is committing to British speedway (now his GCSEs are over? As I assume they are about now) and cutting out a lot of the German stuff as Newcastle are a Sunday track. Â C'mon the BSPA, do the right thing for once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) still??..even though he's going to ride for his country next month?? That's fair enough then.You can still ride Team events for your country with a Foreign Licence but not Individual Events.Your Passport dictates your Nationality your Licence doesn't. Is the reason. Edited May 9, 2014 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Even if the BSPA changed the rules for Lambert, surely the multiplier would work against him. Â I don't know his current average - say it's 5.5 for argument's sake. That would convert to a PL average of over 9. Â Even if they took his current assessed 3.00, that would give him an equivalent of a 5.0 in PL terms. Â So how could Newcy ever get him on a 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 You mean like he is storming the EL this year, let's be clear here Kings average has dropped so much he can now double up. Â Worrying signs for me as our top GB riders all now appear to want to ride in the PL, not hard to see why GB is in the state it is. Â Not worrying at all. The PL provides regular top quality actual racing rather than the often processional EL alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Stupid rule I agree. It's why Ellis couldn't double up at Lakeside and Kerr at Coventry among others. Â This one does make me sort of agree with Lambert that the BSPA are screwing him over. I know it's the rule but it's a stupid rule and IMO it should be dropped instantly. Let the lad double up. By doubling up at Newcastle you have to fancy he is committing to British speedway (now his GCSEs are over? As I assume they are about now) and cutting out a lot of the German stuff as Newcastle are a Sunday track. Â C'mon the BSPA, do the right thing for once! Crikey, how old are you SCB, you can't have forgotten already?!? Exams in my school are starting on Monday and last until late June. Â Whilst I agree he should definitely be riding in the PL, I can't see how he'd be available to anyone on a three point average. His assessed average, when converted, is 5. As of Monday, he will get a new EL average, which will be 5.43 (currently) or 4.75 if he runs 4 lasts. That converts at 9.05 (7.92 with 0 points at Belle Vue). There is no way he should, or will, be allowed in on a three. He's far better than that, and if Somerset had tried this, I suspect there would be pages of protests. Edited May 9, 2014 by Nellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Even if the BSPA changed the rules for Lambert, surely the multiplier would work against him. Â I don't know his current average - say it's 5.5 for argument's sake. That would convert to a PL average of over 9. Â Even if they took his current assessed 3.00, that would give him an equivalent of a 5.0 in PL terms. Â So how could Newcy ever get him on a 3? Â He's still on an assessed 3.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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