dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 And Lewis Rose can? Exact same situation apart from the Fast Track label. Amazing technicality for the BSPA to cling to. . I have an apple and an orange. They are both fruits so must be exactly the same - bar some technicality the grocer clings to.Supposing Lambert had decided to ride EL and PL at the start of the season would his starting average have been 3.00 in both leagues?!No because the rules dont allow assessed riders to double up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Speedway has some crazy rules, we are talking about a 16 year old kid, one with massive potential yet we stifle his progress the same with Ellis last season.... Can these numptys not see what the rest of us do?? We should be embracing young Brits correctly and not just using them as speedway slags and a cost cutting exercise to save Elite league speedway... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythman666 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 No because the rules dont allow assessed riders to double up! My apologies I didn't realise that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 well I just hope all Newcastle fans don't expect miracles on sunday.. I do think we'll beat p/boro as we would'v with the team of last week lets get behind young Nathan graves..i wonder what num George will put schrammbo at.. and i'm sure clarkia will name danny the ( king of diamonds } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Speedway has some crazy rules, we are talking about a 16 year old kid, one with massive potential yet we stifle his progress the same with Ellis last season.... Can these numptys not see what the rest of us do?? We should be embracing young Brits correctly and not just using them as speedway slags and a cost cutting exercise to save Elite league speedway... In a way its a good problem to be coming up against.Its been quite a few years since there have been British teenagers capable of being considered for a spot in the top league. I think its one of times when Newcastle fans will think its all BSPA claptrap and most others will think its the Diamonds trying to pull a fast one. Much like the Somerset/Brady Kurtz situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the muck man Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 king class rider to bring in we needed an out and out no1, henry should never have went been our best rider up to now this season with robson. shram should have gone along with lingren, given time rosen would have got better and better and pushed for no1 where lingren just couldnt do it. i am 50/50 at the minute on the team at the end of the day its a points game lets hope our heat leaders can carry a reserve cos thats what we will need to do unless we get a decent reserve i.e Lambert rules permiting !!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I have an apple and an orange. They are both fruits so must be exactly the same - bar some technicality the grocer clings to. No because the rules dont allow assessed riders to double up! oh dear the analogy police will be after you for that one but to continue it, the grocer doesn't stop you from buying both an apple and an orange because that wouldn't be good for his business. The rules must allow assessed riders to double up because that is exactly what Lewis Rose is doing. Is he not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Rose is still 3.00 for a few more days. Also think thats a piss poor team. Even with rose as a 3 it still comes to 0.19 over the last set of averages. Or i just have a dodgy calculator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittle_face Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 yes Mr Blobby but it still fits under the 42.50 limit so is within the rules in that respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 In a way its a good problem to be coming up against.Its been quite a few years since there have been British teenagers capable of being considered for a spot in the top league. I think its one of times when Newcastle fans will think its all BSPA claptrap and most others will think its the Diamonds trying to pull a fast one. Much like the Somerset/Brady Kurtz situation. no not just saying it because it's my team... But it highlights how narrow minded the set up is geared towards young Brits.... Wed rather just have them as cannon fodder with a few protected races in the EL.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 yes Mr Blobby but it still fits under the 42.50 limit so is within the rules in that respect Duh! forgot about the 42.5 limit stupid blobby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) These things just highlight how bad state the sport is in right now,something controversial happens as a weekly occurrence nowadays and sports has been around along time.Its mainly stupid rules that cause the majority of the problems IMO.Until an Independent body runs the sport it will never improve. Edited May 9, 2014 by Fromafar 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acclennell Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) In a way its a good problem to be coming up against.Its been quite a few years since there have been British teenagers capable of being considered for a spot in the top league. I think its one of times when Newcastle fans will think its all BSPA claptrap and most others will think its the Diamonds trying to pull a fast one. Much like the Somerset/Brady Kurtz situation. You're right but basically a stupid rule is going to hinder a young British talent whereas we seem to fall over backwards to cater for foreign riders with assessed averages and allowing them to DU. Surely the sport in the UK is about encouraging British riders to succeed and progress and not about pulling fast ones as it makes a team stronger. No wonder we are miles behind Poland, Denmark and Sweden with this attitude. Sad day that an exciting prospect is hindered whereas numerous foreign riders are allowed to DU and make more revenue, Yet the only thing some people can think about is great Newcastle can't put out a better team. Edited May 9, 2014 by acclennell 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieblackadder fan club Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 While changes were needed and the boldness must be applauded I think this makes us weaker especially with schramm or rose in the main body of the team. Would like George to come out and explain the thinking behind it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 well I just hope all Newcastle fans don't expect miracles on sunday.. I do think we'll beat p/boro as we would'v with the team of last week lets get behind young Nathan graves..i wonder what num George will put schrammbo at.. and i'm sure clarkia will name danny the ( king of diamonds }i hear mala douglas is doing a 2nd half having borrowed mcgreevys old leathers?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 These things just highlight how bad state the sport is in right now,something controversial happens as a weekly occurrence nowadays and sports has been around along time.Its mainly stupid rules that cause the majority of the problems IMO.Until an Independent body runs the sport it will never improve. You are 100% correct. Sadly it will never happen. :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 While changes were needed and the boldness must be applauded I think this makes us weaker especially with schramm or rose in the main body of the team. Would like George to come out and explain the thinking behind itregardless of it works or not.... King will get a true PL average and we should qualify for the pairs and fours now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 While changes were needed and the boldness must be applauded I think this makes us weaker especially with schramm or rose in the main body of the team. Would like George to come out and explain the thinking behind it King will drop 1.5 or 2 points of his average and he'll swap Schramm for a 5.5 or a 6 point rider, Claes? Putting Rose back at reserve with whichever 3.00 rider we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Non speedway supporters don't understand how riders can ride for different clubs in different countries, their heads almost explode when you tell them that they can ride for three different clubs in THIS country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 no not just saying it because it's my team... But it highlights how narrow minded the set up is geared towards young Brits.... Wed rather just have them as cannon fodder with a few protected races in the EL.... And further the careers of European and Antipodian riders in their place too. Shame on the Bspa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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