Tame G. B. - Oh Dear

[The White Knight]

Really!! and from a Scotsman at that.

Yes - I thought about that before I Posted. For example what if Scotland were to produce another Bert Harkins, Jimmy MacMillan, Jimmy Tannock, the Beatons etc. But then I thought that currently there seem to be no real Scottish prospects around. So, in the light of that, I was prepared to put up with England. Better THAT than TeamGB - says it all really.

[MattK]

I can only speak from a personal point of view. We have the van ( without the name in the side ) and take up as many foreign rides as possible. All these rides cost money to do and they're valuable experience, but when you rock up and see the equipment / backing that some if the foreign boys have it's heartbreaking. We do what we can with what we've got but you automatically are on the back foot from the off. I always say to people instead of criticizing, go up and offer a tenner to a rider. That's a third of a way to a tyre and every little helps.

There's no major effort to attract a major big name sponsor to British speedway and until that happens we'll always he one step behind foreign riders.

 

Is that backing from their governing body, Polish club or simply more generous sponsors?

[The Pedaler]

It's a BSI / FIM event, so I don't thing that the BSPA are financially responsible. What the BSPA are at fault for though is their total mismanagement of the sport that has led to this parlous lack of talent in Britain at a world level. For that, they can't compensate anyone highly enough.

That costs money and there isn't any to help the young Brits

I can only speak from a personal point of view. We have the van ( without the name in the side ) and take up as many foreign rides as possible. All these rides cost money to do and they're valuable experience, but when you rock up and see the equipment / backing that some if the foreign boys have it's heartbreaking. We do what we can with what we've got but you automatically are on the back foot from the off. I always say to people instead of criticizing, go up and offer a tenner to a rider. That's a third of a way to a tyre and every little helps.

There's no major effort to attract a major big name sponsor to British speedway and until that happens we'll always he one step behind foreign riders.

 

Kind of backs up the mismanagement point. The BSPA see international competition as a pain in the backside, and their apathy towards success on the international scene is based on the individual promoters not getting any financial benefit from it, and as they see it, "their" assets being put at risk of injury in someone else's competition. That's why there is minimal support for British riders to compete abroad.

 

Whilst it sounds romantic to blood the youngsters, have we really got any that are competitive at that level at the moment ?

What did Latvia have at this time last year?

[Trees]

All well and good saying,pick youngsters for the future(and ideally i would go for that),but a Promoter is hosting the meeting and i guess hoping to get a good crowd.If you go with youngsters that are there for the experience how will that affect the crowd?And will the BSPA compensate the promoter for his losses?I say that as someone who has spent out60 for next weeks Germany v Poland football match and today the squad was announced and i hardly recognise anyone.Basically a 'B' team for 'A' team prices and i don't really care much for the development of German footballers,although that wouldn't be the case for the SWC team

But is the promoter getting the gate money, can you confirm that 100%? Edited May 9, 2014 by Trees

[SteveLyric2]

Team GB have a team in the World U21 Cup semi-finals against Germany, Czechs and Aussies, using Howarth, Ellis, Lambert and Garrity.

 

Lets see how they get on on June 7th to see if any are ready to step up with Woffy, Cook, King and the like?

[iris123]

I always say to people instead of criticizing, go up and offer a tenner to a rider. That's a third of a way to a tyre and every little helps.

 

 

If i go to Teterow and i am pretty keen,then i will give a tenner to Adam or someone else in the team.Promise

But is the promoter getting the have money, can you confirm that 100%?

King's Lynn aren't doing it for charity are they?BSI aren't doing it for charity are they?And it isn't up to either to fund youth development at this level,it is up to the BSPA

[SPEEDY69]

I don't agree with the idea of sticking in riders just because of their age. It's a national competition which we should treat with respect and field our strongest team, irrespective of age or anything else. When a youngster is good enough, they will get their chance. There is a lot more that could be done to give more opportunities to a wider range of riders at all levels - foreign tours or test matches for example. The World Cup is not the place to do it.

[The White Knight]

I don't agree with the idea of sticking in riders just because of their age. It's a national competition which we should treat with respect and field our strongest team, irrespective of age or anything else. When a youngster is good enough, they will get their chance. There is a lot more that could be done to give more opportunities to a wider range of riders at all levels - foreign tours or test matches for example. The World Cup is not the place to do it.

It is if you have no suitable Riders.

 

It is questionable whether any of the old brigade apart from Tai Woofinden are 'suitable'. (Good enough).

 

If that is the case, then what alternative do we have other than to give the youngsters a go.

[SPEEDY69]

It is if you have no suitable Riders.

 

It is questionable whether any of the old brigade apart from Tai Woofinden are 'suitable'. (Good enough).

 

If that is the case, then what alternative do we have other than to give the youngsters a go.

Ahh, but by saying 'suitable' are you saying 'too old' or 'been in it before' because if that's the case then it is not necessarily picking the best team. All the GB riders race in the UK. Those to be considered are in the EL - simply take the top five riders by average (for this season, not the rolling ones). They have proven this year to be the best GB riders. Now if anyone starts going on about the format for averages this year and such like then I agree, that's a bit of a dogs breakfast!

[screm]

I don't agree with the idea of sticking in riders just because of their age. It's a national competition which we should treat with respect and field our strongest team, irrespective of age or anything else. When a youngster is good enough, they will get their chance. There is a lot more that could be done to give more opportunities to a wider range of riders at all levels - foreign tours or test matches for example. The World Cup is not the place to do it.

 

I agree I want the best team possible to represent Team GB, problem is at the minute arguably our best rider doesn't want to take part. Woffinden is nailed on, as is Harris, after that and without Nicholls you could pick any two from about seven or eight riders who are all much of a muchness.

[The White Knight]

 

I agree I want the best team possible to represent Team GB, problem is at the minute arguably our best rider doesn't want to take part. Woffinden is nailed on, as is Harris, after that and without Nicholls you could pick any two from about seven or eight riders who are all much of a muchness.

I wish Scott Nicholls would return - but - in the absence of him I think we have no choice but to go for younger riders. If they have 'it' they will perform - if they haven't they won't. We NEED to find out. The ONLY way they will get experience of International Speedway is to ride in it.

[SteveLyric2]

I'm sure Scott will be there - if only to commentate!!?

[Trees]

If i go to Teterow and i am pretty keen,then i will give a tenner to Adam or someone else in the team.Promise

 

King's Lynn aren't doing it for charity are they?BSI aren't doing it for charity are they?And it isn't up to either to fund youth development at this level,it is up to the BSPA

No of course neither of them are doing it for charity, I just need to know what monies go where basically :-) Did BSI pay Buster for hire of the track then they take the entrance monies or something different to that?

[george.m]

The SWC isn't far off in the distance now. Rosco has been beating his chest about GB having the World Champion (like it was any of his doing) and other "excellent riders" like Chris Harris Danny King and Craig Cook, and how he "expected" them to beat Australia at Kings Lynn and go straight through to the Finals at Bydgoszcz, where he expected them to be very competitive.

 

So, where are we now? Anyone impressed with Chris Harris this year? Apart from a one-off maximum yesterday, is Danny King the answer? Ben Barker and Edward Kennett are not cutting the mustard beyond PL level any more. Scott Nicholls has retired from the international scene. Craig Cook is a rolling gating tart that if he misses the start ends up nowhere. So who else is there?

 

Is the nations fate going to rest on the shoulders of Lewis Bridger? Are the Worralls up to it yet?

 

And the biggest question is left to last. Our World Champion - Tai Woffinden. What the fish'n'chips is going on there? The man that Rosco was pinning his hopes on to get 12 points out of the teams overall total is a pale shadow of his former self. Can anything be done to rescue his season?

 

So who should Rosco pick, and what do you think are Tame GB's realistic prospects this year?

Craig Cook gating tart?

Bit harsh!

This coming from a Tiger.

[MattK]

No of course neither of them are doing it for charity, I just need to know what monies go where basically :-) Did BSI pay Buster for hire of the track then they take the entrance monies or something different to that?

 

I always assumed it was the other way around?

[LagutaRacingFan]

Denmark threw a raw Michael Jepsen Jensen into the SWC.

 

We should do the same.

[screm]

Denmark threw a raw Michael Jepsen Jensen into the SWC.

 

We should do the same.

 

Jensen rides in the SWC for Team GB, you heard it here first.

[smod]

For what it is worth, "Great Britain" is an island, not a nation.

 

The name of any team representing the four nations comprising the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland should by Team UK.

 

After September 18th? Who knows.

 

But never Great Britain, which doesn't include Ulster, Isle of Man, Isle of Wight, Angelsey, etc, etc.

[The White Knight]

For what it is worth, "Great Britain" is an island, not a nation.

 

The name of any team representing the four nations comprising the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland should by Team UK.

 

After September 18th? Who knows.

 

But never Great Britain, which doesn't include Ulster, Isle of Man, Isle of Wight, Angelsey, etc, etc.

VERY pedantic......................

 

Give over smod.

 

Great Britain and the Union Flag Race Jacket was good enough for British Speedway for years. We should return to that. A lot of the problems of our Sport is that we have chucked out our Traditions.

 

THAT doesn't seem to have done us much good - has it? Crowds are still disappearing - aren't they?

 

TeamUK is even worse than TeamGB.

[SCB]

VERY pedantic......................

 

Give over smod.

 

Great Britain and the Union Flag Race Jacket was good enough for British Speedway for years. We should return to that. A lot of the problems of our Sport is that we have chucked out our Traditions.

 

THAT doesn't seem to have done us much good - has it? Crowds are still disappearing - aren't they?

 

TeamUK is even worse than TeamGB.

But he's right. It's the UK that they're representing. Not GB.