The White Knight Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 ...And give youngsters some track time. They are, after all, the future of the sport. Ergo - let's have Second Halves back. :approve: They won't though. :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Interesting topic! Having been to Foxhall today I have to say I am concerned for the future. A 'bumper' crowd with large gaps on the home straight & first second bends these would have been packed 3 or 4 years ago for a bank holiday meeting in fact I think it would have been a average Thursday night gate a few seasons ago so concerned point one crowd level. Second point from today the 'blue grove' on the inside line. Now speedway is supposed to be a dirt track sport & the dirt provides the grip well today the bikes were spinning up on the inside so very little grip I suspect! Speedway as a whole needs to look at the bike & track set up & get back to tracks that provide grip & allows the riders to race but I guess you need bikes that can run on deep grippy tracks todays bikes I don't think can. British Speedway needs a complete make over new governing body new rule book & riders riding in one league for one team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Slow down the bikes, add more dirt, ban all exotic materials, dump the joker, but most of all, the Elite League and Premier League need to work together!!! As it stands they never agree on anything.. until that happens nowt will or will be allowed to change.. At the moment, it's like Rugby League and Union, or WBF and WBC, constantly agreeing to disagree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I agree speedway needs an overhaul. But it also needs to get real. I saw the European GP and was shocked at the lack of fans in the stadium, especially as we have been led to believe speedway is a 'hot bed' in Poland. If speedway is to survive, it needs to downsize, which means costs for riders, promoters and fans. At the end of the day and as has been mentioned, this thread is an 'old chestnut' subject, but nothing changes. Let's hope it doesn't end up being, 'Will the last speedway club to close, please turn off the lights'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailays Hat Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Hard to judge crowds at foxhall now from the past as the grandstands take people off the terraces. The number of cars would suggest it was a big crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Having watched the Swedish league match on Euro sport tonight did kind of show where speedway in this country should go. No daft joker rules Kenneth Bjerre missing though injury and no Guest so just 2 full teams of the clubs own riders using sensible rules to score 2 points for a match win 1 for a draw & a bonus point for scoring the most over 2 matches. Simple! As for the top flight over here then maybe the time has come to run 1 night a week.......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 couldnt agree more, all of above sensible, straight forward..dare i say obvious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I just don't think british speedway is sustainable in it's present form. It's far too expensive for the product that's on offer and the public are voting with their feet. Run down stadiums and poorly prepared tracks don' t help in the fight to keep the few die hards that still attend. A reduction in admission prices is the only way to save speedway in this country, and if that means kicking out the high earners, then so be it. Looking at the attendances at the televised meetings abroad, it seems that the decline in speedway popularity is worldwide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulvik Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 It's a great Idea having all the EL meetings one one night the problem is with this are the local councils most tracks only have planning permission to run on certain nights with many having a curfew. You only have to look at the situation with Mildenhall to see that some councils given the chance would do away with speedway altogether if they could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 It's a great Idea having all the EL meetings one one night the problem is with this are the local councils most tracks only have planning permission to run on certain nights with many having a curfew. You only have to look at the situation with Mildenhall to see that some councils given the chance would do away with speedway altogether if they could Very true - but - given the way British Speedway is dying on it's feet perhaps radical change is the only thing that will save it. If an odd Track gets blocked by the Council Planning people then that is a risk we might just have to take. :sad: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 agreeing with virtually every comment on here tonight!.....think twk is quite right. if you going to run an elite with say 10 clubs and 2 clubs cant make that night in question, use 2 others. radical chnge is definately needed now. guest has to go/doubling up has to go and jokers must go 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulvik Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Very true - but - given the way British Speedway is dying on it's feet perhaps radical change is the only thing that will save it. If an odd Track gets blocked by the Council Planning people then that is a risk we might just have to take. :sad: This is all well and good but having once lost a track your very lucky if your town or city gets one back you only have to look at the situation here in Hull 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I agree the crowd at tonight's Swedish match looked low but my understanding is that the track is close to a village with a population of about 2000 so not a bad attendance for the area. The European Grand Prix seemed to suffer due to the weather from what I have read & I think it was also stated on the night. I'm not sure about the Polish league as I haven't seen any coverage from this season. It seems that at least the Poles are investing in the sport ie stadia etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 This is all well and good but having once lost a track your very lucky if your town or city gets one back you only have to look at the situation here in Hull wouldnt mean the club had to fold, lower tier league could run throughout the week, think we talking top flight sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 This is all well and good but having once lost a track your very lucky if your town or city gets one back you only have to look at the situation here in Hull You don't have to tell me that!!! I am a Sunderland Speedway Supporter and I lost my Track FORTY years ago. I've been a Speedway nomad ever since. The comment in my previous Post still stands though. British Speedway has never, as long as I can remember, gone through a period as bad as at present. Change things - or - DEATH WILL COME SLOWLY!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulvik Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) The comment in my previous Post still stands though. British Speedway has never, as long as I can remember, gone through a period as bad as at present. Change things - or - DEATH WILL COME SLOWLY!!! I Totally agree with you half the problem in my view is the EL it's self the racing on the whole is not as exciting at that in the PL anybody who as seen the PL matches that have been shown on SKY last season and this can't fail to have enjoyed them. I Know not all matches are like them it's the same with any sport but as an advert for speedway they were great. Maybe a step backwards on this one is whats needed and go back to 2 leagues and do away with the EL altogether Edited May 6, 2014 by hulvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I Totally agree with you half the problem in my view is the EL it's self the racing on the whole is not as exciting at that in the PL anybody who as seen the PL matches that have been shown on SKY last season and this can't fail to have enjoyed them. I Know not all matches are like them it's the same with any sport but as an advert for speedway they were great. Maybe a step backwards on this one is whats needed and go back to 2 leagues and do away with the EL altogether Possibly you are right. But it should be the League that goes - not the Clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 theres no doubt that "could" wok, 1 big league, only have to look at brummies side last night, it wasnt far off a PL side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 theres no doubt that "could" wok, 1 big league, only have to look at brummies side last night, it wasnt far off a PL side Precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 i dont actually think gp riders bring in spectators, not enough to justify there wages.without gp riders, 1 league could certainly work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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