Aces51 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Re-Run Productions will probably have their best ever sales of this meeting DVD. If its available by next Wednesday I'm sure someone will post the relevant exclusion! She!!!! My apologies to Red Panda. I'm not even sure that the DVD will answer this one but we shall see. How often these days do we see incidents replayed on TV which can look quite different from different camera angles? I don't know how many cameras Re- Run use and where they are sighted. My concern is the allegation that it was deliberate. That involves knowing what was Cook's intention and a video will not necessarily tell us that. That is why I think it important to see if there is a previous history of fencing riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Who are these people who were supposedly there and saw it differently?? Mr Mungo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Mr Mungo. There's always one!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejigger Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Reading your post, John Leslie, were you actually at the stadium and where were you watching from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) My apologies to Red Panda. I'm not even sure that the DVD will answer this one but we shall see. How often these days do we see incidents replayed on TV which can look quite different from different camera angles? I don't know how many cameras Re- Run use and where they are sighted. My concern is the allegation that it was deliberate. That involves knowing what was Cook's intention and a video will not necessarily tell us that. That is why I think it important to see if there is a previous history of fencing riders. Well of course its an allegation. Only Cook can know what was actually in his mind being so fired up as he was with officialdom!! Supporters can only get their valid opinions on the incidents from what they see, either live or on dvd. Others who weren't there have a less-valid opinion imo, but are as entitled to express it if they so wish and certain others will just stir the ****!!! Edited May 9, 2014 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Has anyone ever thought cook moved out to block pawlicki attempted pass around the outside and just got it wrong! Or would that be to sensible of a conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Has anyone ever thought cook moved out to block pawlicki attempted pass around the outside and just got it wrong! Or would that be to sensible of a conclusion. Far too sensible, Red Panda and Steve Shovlar appear to be accusing Cook of trying to kill Pawlicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 It was at best a 50/50 incident but with Cook antagonising the officials moments before you could guess who the ref would exclude. Shame as it spoilt a nicely balanced contest and the meeting peated out after that. These things happen unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 There's always one!!!!!! Yep, and he's the person whose opinion I would trust most out of anyone else I know who watches speedway. Leave a narrow dirt line out by the fence and this sort of accident is bound to happen. But of course the Dorset home straight hooligans would blame Cook and say it was deliberate 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Boring "YAWN" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Reading your post, John Leslie, were you actually at the stadium and where were you watching from ? I very much doubt he was there, just thinks anything a poole fan says must be wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) I very much doubt he was there, just thinks anything a poole fan says must be wrong. Let's be honest, with with a small number of Poole fans history is on his side. 😂😂😂 Edited May 9, 2014 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Cook was in front and entitled to pick his own line. Pawlicki was behind and made a rash and desperate attempt to pass where there wasn't room....but hey, that's what all the young kids are doing these days. Isn't it time for you to go back to your room for your Medication !! Everyone there saw what happened. Cook fenced Pawlicki. Simple as that. So what part of fencing a rider at high speed isn't dangerous? Defending their hero is one thing. But even his sponsors hung their heads in shame. He clearly came to the tapes in a rage after being stopped for rolling at the first attempt. Then he verbally abused the start Marshall before going on to fence Shamek. Sounds like the guy is a total liability and a danger to other riders when things don't go his way. Didn't he get thrown out of a meeting last year at Ipswich? Must admit, riders like Cook learn one way or another.. People berate Ben Barker, but i actually like Ben, even after his bust up with Chris, i'l give him his due, he shook Chris's hand and Appologised. I still maintain that if Bens average was lower he would certainly benifit under Neil, who would get the best out of the lad.. Edited May 9, 2014 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejigger Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I very much doubt he was there, just thinks anything a poole fan says must be wrong. Yes, he's just another topic troll who does not know what he is talking about, let alone know what day of the week it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 And if you had taken the time to read other posts in the thread then may be you will understand that others thought his actions were dangerous as well............ RP I'm not disputing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Dont pool fans like to cook up a major drama over a one off racing incident.I would think that in the racing moment that many a rider has made a wrong move and caused a crash it does not make them a dirty rider these things happen when racing at high speed get over it.I have seen Cook in every race he has ever ridden at Belle vue and i have never seen him try to fence a rider ever, so i have witnest 50 or so meetings to your one race to form an opinion.So in my opinion there is no way that you can class him as a dirty or dangerous rider. Edited May 9, 2014 by B.V 72 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I never said he was a dirty or dangerous rider.........I just said that this particular move was dangerous............ RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Of course the incident at Birmingham has something to do with it. It reflects on the credibility of Red Panda's version of what happened at Poole. He wrongly claimed that the incident at Birmingham was another deliberate and dangerous move by Cook and it is the only example anyone has come up with, so far, to show that Cook has any history of deliberately fencing anyone. As always you think that anything that didn't involved Poole can't be relevant. My credibility is intact..........the whole incident happened virtually in front of where I was.......... as also stated I never said he was a dirty or dangerous rider but it was a dangerous manoeuvre............and that the incident at Birmingham was in a similar vein alibi by a less experienced Cook........... And yes I am female...........your apology is accepted............ RP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Team riding to try to block an opponent is very skilful. Deliberately - or even accidentally - shunting a passing rider into the air fence is not! As has been stated, if accidental why not ride round to check PP was ok. Such an act of concern would have got the home grandstand applauding, including his sponsors!!! It wouldn't have stopped the obvious exclusion, but may have left a less bitter taste in the mouths of many that were there! Edited May 9, 2014 by Skidder1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 As Poole fans say that us fellow posters jump on the Poole bandwagon we can now say that Poole fans are jumping on the Cookie bandwagon Is there a custard cream bandwagon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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