Berwick V Sheffield Koc 2nd Leg 5/05/2014 @7pm

[Normski]

 

Definitely the correct decision, and like you say Jim, no reflection on Liam, he rode very well for his paid 6 and the support he is getting behind the scenes looks to be paying off.

 

He really enjoyed his rides and clearly got a buzz out of it. He's just going to get better and better.

 

 

Definitely the correct decision, and like you say Jim, no reflection on Liam, he rode very well for his paid 6 and the support he is getting behind the scenes looks to be paying off.

 

He really enjoyed his rides and clearly got a buzz out of it. He's just going to get better and better.

spoke to Razor in Black n Gold, only because it was a cup match that he made the switch replacing Liam with Steen which turned out to be a good decision.

[bigeddiechek]

Absolutely correct decision, sure Liam would have had the ride in a PL match, but every point counts in this one.
Looked to have the team fired-up too last night.

[havenagotahope]

Absolutely correct decision, sure Liam would have had the ride in a PL match, but every point counts in this one.

Looked to have the team fired-up too last night.

Looks like one member off the team needs "Fired" time to change me thinks.

Irons in the fire I think.

[smod]

Looks like one member off the team needs "Fired" time to change me thinks.

Irons in the fire I think.

55 points against Glasgow. 55 points against Newcastle. 54 points against Sheffield.

 

Two weeks ago there were shouts to dump Matej Kus. Last week it was Liam Carr wasn't good enough.

 

Now you want someone else to go?

 

As a supporter of a club, you clearly haven't got a hope.

[Shadders]

Great result last night on a good track will it b enough ? who knows if Kev could hit form it would help 37 pts from 6 home meetings is nowhere good enough for A NO 1 you would expect that score from 3 meetings for a no 1 every one else is doing the job asked of them

Bit harsh on Doolan. He's not really a number one, just a decent second string these days. When Vissing moves to the number one spot it should take some pressure off him.

I presume that part of the reason Kevin was signed was because he's a great bloke to have around the pits, much like the reason Rye House signed Simon Lambert. Fancy a swop?

Edited May 5, 2014 by Shadders

[YAMYAMBANDIT]

Looks like one member off the team needs "Fired" time to change me thinks.

Irons in the fire I think.

Don't sack a rider, sort out the problem. Remember PW sacking Adrian in 2006 because he was only scoring 9 points at No1, what a mistake that was, we came last but one in the league, due in the main to destabalising the team.

[bigeddiechek]

I think the team is perfectly fine the way it is.

As several have mentioned, Doolan will move from the No 1 spot and be a very solid 2nd string.

 

The guys all look to be fired-up and together as a team.
Steen is on fire, Kus was showing a bit more consistency on Saturday, Liam put in double his average.

 

I wouldn't tinker with things at the moment when the only poor results have been against an Edinburgh side who look imperious at the moment.

[Fromafar]

I think the team is perfectly fine the way it is.

As several have mentioned, Doolan will move from the No 1 spot and be a very solid 2nd string.

 

The guys all look to be fired-up and together as a team.

Steen is on fire, Kus was showing a bit more consistency on Saturday, Liam put in double his average.

 

I wouldn't tinker with things at the moment when the only poor results have been against an Edinburgh side who look imperious at the moment.

the only thing I would argue there is that Doolan wasn't brought in as a solid 2nd string,

[screm]

I`m quite happy to see changes, but not for changes sake, which is what would happen in this case. Doolan is not scoring as a No1 should but to be fair to him it was only the averages that dictated his team position. I think we all knew he isn't a No1, once the averages sort themselves out and Vissing moves to No1 with Doolan moving to a true position in the team I think is a better time to judge him, at the minute it is more of a concern that we keep Jensen at reserve for as long as possible.

Still like to see a change in riding order with Wethers going to No2 and Bellego going to No3 or 4.

[Fromafar]

I`m quite happy to see changes, but not for changes sake, which is what would happen in this case. Doolan is not scoring as a No1 should but to be fair to him it was only the averages that dictated his team position. I think we all knew he isn't a No1, once the averages sort themselves out and Vissing moves to No1 with Doolan moving to a true position in the team I think is a better time to judge him, at the minute it is more of a concern that we keep Jensen at reserve for as long as possible.

Still like to see a change in riding order with Wethers going to No2 and Bellego going to No3 or 4.

Averages dictated he was our No1 it will be rolling averages that matter otherwise he might have dropped to reserve on this season so far.Needs to get going IMO,he is a better rider than the form he is showing this year.

[crescent girl]

Great to see David Bellego qualify for the World U21 GP, would guest facilities be allowed in when he is racing away?

Facility for any FIM meeting, even World Finals, is r/r for David (unless he is No 1 in averages).

 

Only time a guest is allowed is for an ACU licenced rider.

 

However, with such an evenly-balanced side, r/r for any of them isn't the end of the world.

 

What might be trickier is that the French authorities have now also entered David in the European U-21 Championship, which I think is one of the Mickey Mouse meetings, and for which we would NOT get a facility, and need to use an NL rider -- presumably Stefan Farnaby.

 

 

Averages dictated he (Kevin Doolan) was our No1 it will be rolling averages that matter otherwise he might have dropped to reserve on this season so far.Needs to get going IMO,he is a better rider than the form he is showing this year.

But just think, no matter who goes to reserve if/when Steen moves up, they'll be just huge in that position.

 

This is a really solid team, why even think of messing with it?

 

Regarding the suggestion above, swapping David Bellego and Matty Wethers, I really like having David in Heat 8 and (especially) Matty in Heat 14.

Edited May 5, 2014 by crescent girl

[Fromafar]

Facility for any FIM meeting, even World Finals, is r/r for David (unless he is No 1 in averages).Only time a guest is allowed is for an ACU licenced rider.However, with such an evenly-balanced side, r/r for any of them isn't the end of the world.What might be trickier is that the French authorities have also entered David in the European U-21 Championship, which I think is one of the Mickey Mouse meetings, and for which we would NOT get a facility, and need to use an NL rider -- presumably Stefan Farnaby.But just think, no matter who goes to reserve is Steen moves up, they'll be huge in that position!This is a really solid team, why even think of messing with it?Regarding the suggestion above, swapping David Bellego and Matty Wethers, I really like having David in Heat 8 and (especially) Matty in Heat 14.

I would have Kus at 2 and Bellego at 3 if the rules allow it.

Facility for any FIM meeting, even World Finals, is r/r for David (unless he is No 1 in averages).Only time a guest is allowed is for an ACU licenced rider.However, with such an evenly-balanced side, r/r for any of them isn't the end of the world.What might be trickier is that the French authorities have now also entered David in the European U-21 Championship, which I think is one of the Mickey Mouse meetings, and for which we would NOT get a facility, and need to use an NL rider -- presumably Stefan Farnaby.But just think, no matter who goes to reserve if/when Steen moves up, they'll be just huge in that position.This is a really solid team, why even think of messing with it?Regarding the suggestion above, swapping David Bellego and Matty Wethers, I really like having David in Heat 8 and (especially) Matty in Heat 14.

It depends if Steen copes with the move up.He certainly is excellent at Home in reserve ,away and in the Top 5 might be a different story that why Kevin has to get goingIMO.

[mythman666]

To be fair to Doolan had he not had a chain come off in his 3rd ride he probably would have had 6 paid 7...which considering his average would have been ok. Its all too easy to call for changes. If all the riders score their average all it takes is for one of them to have an exceptional night and we wont be far off in most meetings

[Fromafar]

This isn't a criticism of any particular riders but a7 point average from your Top man on paper isn't going to get you far.Winning vital races is more important.take Kus on Sat had 3 wins but 2 poor rides he rode to his average if it had been a tight match it might have made the difference,you surely have to beat opposition reserves when you are on form.for a lot of riders Home form keeps their "average". Averages don't mean a lot to me ,but again that is just an opinion.Cook at Edinburgh is an example of how to really ride to your average when it is a meaningful target,not 6or7 points a meeting which is relatively easy for a so called Heat Leader.On another note must congratulate the Berwick Track Staff for track prep this season it has been excellent IMO .

[YAMYAMBANDIT]

This isn't a criticism of any particular riders but a7 point average from your Top man on paper isn't going to get you far.Winning vital races is more important.take Kus on Sat had 3 wins but 2 poor rides he rode to his average if it had been a tight match it might have made the difference,you surely have to beat opposition reserves when you are on form.for a lot of riders Home form keeps their "average". Averages don't mean a lot to me ,but again that is just an opinion.Cook at Edinburgh is an example of how to really ride to your average when it is a meaningful target,not 6or7 points a meeting which is relatively easy for a so called Heat Leader.On another note must congratulate the Berwick Track Staff for track prep this season it has been excellent IMO .

We did not assemble a No1 based team, a team in depth option was taken, that is what we have. If you want a No1 then you have to have the best 2 reserves available, probable on a 5 ave each, that means you cannot bring on a new young rider like Liam.

[Paulco]

We did not assemble a No1 based team, a team in depth option was taken, that is what we have. If you want a No1 then you have to have the best 2 reserves available, probable on a 5 ave each, that means you cannot bring on a new young rider like Liam.

Agreed , strength in depth gets you success . Any team which has ended up winning anything in the last ten years or so has had a trump card at reserve . Keeping Jensen there as long as possible would go a long way in making Berwick's season a good one

[Ned Kelly 41]

This isn't a criticism of any particular riders but a7 point average from your Top man on paper isn't going to get you far.Winning vital races is more important.take Kus on Sat had 3 wins but 2 poor rides he rode to his average if it had been a tight match it might have made the difference,you surely have to beat opposition reserves when you are on form.for a lot of riders Home form keeps their "average". Averages don't mean a lot to me ,but again that is just an opinion.Cook at Edinburgh is an example of how to really ride to your average when it is a meaningful target,not 6or7 points a meeting which is relatively easy for a so called Heat Leader.On another note must congratulate the Berwick Track Staff for track prep this season it has been excellent IMO .

From where I'm standing mate, Craig Cook isn't winning all these matches for Edinburgh. Steve Worrall is.

[YAMYAMBANDIT]

This isn't a criticism of any particular riders but a7 point average from your Top man on paper isn't going to get you far.Winning vital races is more important.take Kus on Sat had 3 wins but 2 poor rides he rode to his average if it had been a tight match it might have made the difference,you surely have to beat opposition reserves when you are on form.for a lot of riders Home form keeps their "average". Averages don't mean a lot to me ,but again that is just an opinion.Cook at Edinburgh is an example of how to really ride to your average when it is a meaningful target,not 6or7 points a meeting which is relatively easy for a so called Heat Leader.On another note must congratulate the Berwick Track Staff for track prep this season it has been excellent IMO .

On the track, it has taken 5 seasons to get there, but the track is good this season, it showed promise occasionaly last season, especially in the build up to the FIM meeting. So far it has been consistant this season, something lacking in the past, please, may it continue. More importantly, the riders like it, that to me must, always be be the priority.

Edited May 5, 2014 by TOURETTES

[screm]

From where I'm standing mate, Craig Cook isn't winning all these matches for Edinburgh. Steve Worrall is.

 

I agree, all these maximums, another one today, a near 10-50 average are doing Edinburgh no good what so ever.

[Fromafar]

From where I'm standing mate, Craig Cook isn't winning all these matches for Edinburgh. Steve Worrall is.

Somebody must be blocking your view !!!!!!