seanmuffe Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Fans deserve a better reason than just "Health & Safety"! If they've run out of Bog Rolls just tell us! Not sure the bog rolls will be of help for this type of sh1te Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 So, for once, tell us what the healthy (see Panthers website), and safety issue is. Or is it that they couldn't guarantee the safety of the Mickey Mouse Cup that the football lot were bringing Would you believe them. They could come up with numerous plausible reasons but that wouldn't satisfy many I suspect. Btw, it was the Johnstone's Paint Trophy won at Wembley in front of 35,663 so not quite Mickey Mouse. Speedway gets that type of crowd once a year when the best who don't want to ride here in our Mickey Mouse league turn up! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyb Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 if if an Health and Safety issue then you can't argue with that can you. Can you ? But who decided it was an Health and Safety issue, the HSE themselves or is if just some sort of excuse that smells like bull. Come on Swales,Horton Watson - stop treating the people that earn you a living like idiots ! What is wrong with you guys ? Why not give us more details. Otherwise how can you be trusted to provide a meeting for us in the future. It used to be down the the weather, but now you seem to have your own set of excuses. Almost like network rail and "wrong kind of leaves" scenario. Horton and Watson - have a look at the word "promotion" in the dictionary. The pair of you so far this season, what with p'boro and coventry debacles may need for the boffins In Oxford to re-assess the word. Happy days ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) Peterborough speedway have no say , if the owners of the eoesg say jump i'm afraid Horton & co have to say how high , This is NOT the case Peterborough Speedway have a contract with the owners of the East of England Showground and that contract should include a section which should say something like " In the event that a function or event is held prior to the contracted day of a Speedway meeting the premises shall be left in a fit and proper condition for the commencement of the Speedway meeting as per the contract" Edited May 6, 2014 by starshooter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Edinburgh are rightfully baffled by the call off http://www.edinburghmonarchs.co/news/article.asp?id=1647 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 What an amateur sport we follow eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Edinburgh are rightfully baffled by the call off http://www.edinburghmonarchs.co/news/article.asp?id=1647 Not all bad news then, at least Stevie Worrall "enjoyed his cheese sandwich" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) This is NOT the case Peterborough Speedway have a contract with the owners of the East of England Showground and that contract should include a section which should say something like " In the event that a function or event is held prior to the contracted day of a Speedway meeting the premises shall be left in a fit and proper condition for the commencement of the Speedway meeting as per the contract" But if the EoES doesn't agree but says we say how high or there's no speedway, what then! These are not pre Andrew Mercer & co days! There's obviously more to this than meets the eye and the reasons will not be made public so it's not worth getting excited about, Edited May 6, 2014 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 So the meeting was called of at 10am but Edinburgh were not informed until 12pm. 2 hours after the meeting was called off. Very poor from the panthers. So over 12 hours have passed and yet no explanation to what this health and safety issue is that stopped the meeting going ahead. If i was the Edinburgh promotion i would like an explanation to what the hell happened this morning! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted May 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Within 30 minutes of being tohld it was cancelled the monarchs promotion had updated Facebook, Twitter and the website. They were also contacting supporters who had travelled directly to let them know. It wasn't even on the panthers website for another half an hour at least. We were already on our 2nd train of the day. Now I am no health and safety expert but if it was something this serious I would have had photos on the website and a full reason by now. It would stop any rumours because without that h&s doesn't wash with me. Very disappointing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 (edited) But if the EoES doesn't agree but says we say how high or there's no speedway, what then! These are not pre Andrew Mercer & co days! There's obviously more to this than meets the eye and the reasons will not be made public so it's not worth getting excited about, Its not a question of 'getting excited'. Its a question of fans who have paid out money both to travel and/or to stay over getting a better reason for cancellation than 'a health and safety issue'. That's patronising, avoids the issue of who is precisely responsible for the call off and, yet again, treats speedway fans as a cross between imbeciles and children. Almost inevitably, there is the suspicion that the Peterborough promotion have made some sort of balls up that they don't want everyone to know about and, following on from the appalling ELRC call off , getting a reputation for slackness and incompetence. Edited May 7, 2014 by Halifaxtiger 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Without knowing what the health and safety issue is/was, how do supporters know it is safe to return next time? Let's hope not too many err on the side of caution and stay away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 (edited) Its not a question of 'getting excited'. Its a question of fans who have paid out money both to travel and/or to stay over getting a better reason for cancellation than 'a health and safety issue'. That's patronising, avoids the issue of who is precisely responsible for the call off and, yet again, treats speedway fans as a cross between imbeciles and children. Almost inevitably, there is the suspicion that the Peterborough promotion have made some sort of balls up that they don't want everyone to know about and, following on from the appalling ELRC call off , getting a reputation for slackness and incompetence. If your a speedway supporter then you're patronised, it comes with the territory. We've all been out of pocket at some point without seemingly good reason but we return anyway. Why do they need to let you know the details? This thread is chip paper so to speak when we all focus on our next meeting. Those fans are not going to get their time or money back, that's the harsh reality and I doubt that they'd feel any better if they knew why? They might but it's unlikely to happen. FWIW, I was not really affected being local but think that it was shockingly handled and communicated and am fully sympathetic to the Edinburgh fans, and those who apparently turned up at the EoES for the meeting. Far from ideal in a season in which we're trying to regroup! nb. I'm still waiting to know why 2010 happened, why Panthers lost those Kings Lynn points again last season and how those 10 heats at the zoo v Poole were allowed to continue, or even start in dangerous conditions - so me first please as I've been waiting longer. Oh and one more - why Frost changed his mind so quickly to throw in the towel after seemingly being all set for 2014? This wouldn't have happened then. Edited May 7, 2014 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 If i was the Edinburgh promotion i would like an explanation to what the hell happened this morning! When you read the Edinburgh press release i get the impression they know the real real reason as it seemed a bit tongue in cheek did it not??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuxtonTiger Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Can anyone at Peterborough please advise why I should ever travel there again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 (edited) Can anyone at Peterborough please advise why I should ever travel there again. Because this is/was an unacceptable one off (well not quite one off as it does happen from time to time unfortunately) and you'll be depriving yourself. Edited May 7, 2014 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 This is NOT the case Peterborough Speedway have a contract with the owners of the East of England Showground and that contract should include a section which should say something like " In the event that a function or event is held prior to the contracted day of a Speedway meeting the premises shall be left in a fit and proper condition for the commencement of the Speedway meeting as per the contract" Excellent - it is pleasing to have you on the Forum for us Panthers fans as our Resident Expert on Peterborough Speedway and the East of England Showground workings - some of us have been trying to fathom out these situations for over 40 years without a huge amount of success and then along comes you with all the answers - think we have heard similar to your version in the past - so try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Can anyone at Peterborough please advise why I should ever travel there again. Because it's the best racetrack in the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 So the meeting was called of at 10am but Edinburgh were not informed until 12pm. 2 hours after the meeting was called off. Very poor from the panthers. So over 12 hours have passed and yet no explanation to what this health and safety issue is that stopped the meeting going ahead. If i was the Edinburgh promotion i would like an explanation to what the hell happened this morning! I agree and am sure Mr. Harkiss in his roles as Edinburgh Promoter/BSPA Chairman can get to the bottom of this matter - he probably already knows but will he reveal it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 i think north side just beats it to that claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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