pvm Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Despite the close score not really a very good meeting with decent races few and far between. Track seemed tricky to ride after the rains of last night and today and most of the passing came from riders making mistakes on turn 4. Bears apart from Lawson were too inconsistent although Aaron looked a different rider after swapping bikes half way through the meeting. Probably the last we have seen of Rafal - would like to see him ride for Redcar again at some point. Rebels deserved a point and I'm sure they will feel they should have won if Morris had ridden. Looked a solid team and will be up near the top of the table I'm sure. I'd be quite happy to keep Rafal, he's only going to get better, the signs are there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Just out of interest what is the rule regarding double up riders when their first choice meeting is rained off? If there time can they re route to another meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Just out of interest what is the rule regarding double up riders when their first choice meeting is rained off? If there time can they re route to another meeting? Apparently not once the team has been declared, it seems. That was the reason given tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'd be quite happy to keep Rafal, he's only going to get better, the signs are there. I think you will find that if Konopka just knocks in the scores he is doing at the moment, he won't be going anywhere else. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Poor Olly had a shocker last night at Rye, too. Sounds like he's going through some mechanical gremlins at the moment. Nothing to do with mechanicals. More to do with mistakes. Poor Olly had a shocker last night at Rye, too. Sounds like he's going through some mechanical gremlins at the moment. Nothing to do with mechanicals. More to do with mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boro Bare Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Lots of speculation about Redcar keeping Konopka tonight in place of Hall. Anyone know if or how that's possible? If he was a permanent signing then obviously there's no problem but the general consensus on the Bears forum is that he was only signed as a temporary replacement. If that is the case can Redcar now switch Konopka for Hall given the team is over the points limit and Konopka has a higher average than Hall? Or does the fact that Konopka was replacing Hall mean that a permanent switch can now be made regardless of theirs or the teams average? Or was he permanent all along? Anyone know for sure? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Nothing to do with mechanicals. More to do with mistakes. Nothing to do with mechanicals. More to do with mistakes. So good I posted it twice apparently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusworld Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Seems like Olly is on borrowed time. Hope he redeems himself at home to Ipo and then at Workington otherwise there could be a 'Rider Change' coming! Speedway rules suck when the so called elite league gets priority over your No.1 and then he can't come in when the elite meeting is cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I would have thought that if Somerset had decided to use R/R for Morris(not blaming them for having a guest)then Morris would have been able to ride once Swindon was off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 i for one would like to see more pl teams with their OWN riders in .ie ASSETS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I think you will find that if Konopka just knocks in the scores he is doing at the moment, he won't be going anywhere else. i would love to think this is true - there seems room for improvement whereas we have some riders who have reached their level and will go no further does anyone know if it is possible and how it could happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Yeah, don't recall Hall. Simple. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Apparently not once the team has been declared, it seems. That was the reason given tonight. Im not sure that is correct,Lewis Rose wasnt declared at Scunny last week but re entered when rained off at Newcastle Quite rightly so to,he is their rider so if available should be able to ride for them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) From what I can gather Nick attempted to get back into this meeting, but his request was rejected (by Brian HavelockI believe). Pretty poor whatever reason is given.Your right,he is a member of the the Team and if he is available should be able to take his place.We have riders coming to meetings from abroad who MIGHT not make it but are declared in case they do.Cheating the paying public IMO Edited May 2, 2014 by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlead Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I think, (could be wrong), once the team is declared, it would be up to the discression of the opposing management to allow a change!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHayes Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 From 2014 Rulebook: TEAM NOTIFICATIONS 16.4.1 The Home Team must notify their Opponents of the Team Line-Up at least 5 days before the Meeting to which the Away Team must respond within 24 hours with their Team Line-Up. All notifications must be in writing, include the MA’s and if a Facility is being used, the reason for the Facility being used must be made known. 16.4.2 At least 3 days before the Meeting, the Home Promotion must log the declared (inc. NJL/MDL) Teams at the nominated SCB Website, including each Riders MA, details of all Riders missing from a Teams’s current Declaration, including the full reason for absence and the Facility being used including name and MA of any Guest Rider. 16.4.3 Further necessary changes must be notified, with reasons given, to the nominated SCB Website, Opponents, BSPA Office & Referee as soon as they are known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 From 2014 Rulebook: TEAM NOTIFICATIONS 16.4.1 The Home Team must notify their Opponents of the Team Line-Up at least 5 days before the Meeting to which the Away Team must respond within 24 hours with their Team Line-Up. All notifications must be in writing, include the MA’s and if a Facility is being used, the reason for the Facility being used must be made known. 16.4.2 At least 3 days before the Meeting, the Home Promotion must log the declared (inc. NJL/MDL) Teams at the nominated SCB Website, including each Riders MA, details of all Riders missing from a Teams’s current Declaration, including the full reason for absence and the Facility being used including name and MA of any Guest Rider. 16.4.3 Further necessary changes must be notified, with reasons given, to the nominated SCB Website, Opponents, BSPA Office & Referee as soon as they are known. I note the "further necessary changes must be notified" but no requirement to seek permission from the officials named. Morris should have been riding last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springdale Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I note the "further necessary changes must be notified" but no requirement to seek permission from the officials named. Morris should have been riding last night. If it's correct that Brian Havelock refused thats disgraceful, surely better have the full team instead of a guest, perhaps he thought if Morris rides Somerset would in all probability taken all 3 points, could only happen in Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) I note the "further necessary changes must be notified" but no requirement to seek permission from the officials named. Morris should have been riding last night.That is what most people would interpretate the rule..Riders making a late decision coming back from injury always seem to be able to ride under this rule IMO.Typical speedway decision the sport just keeps shooting itself in the foot with its rule book .What makes it more ludicrous is that Somerset were allowed a guest up to Nicks average so on paper it should have made no difference to the Teams.I am quite sure the fans would be able to write in the programme change Edited May 2, 2014 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erimus11 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 This one should definitely, go to a last heat decider. Just wonder if Nick Morris comes back into the mix. Now that Swindon is off. That would give the Rebs, even more edge. Please can you tell me the lottery numbers for tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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