Hunty Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 http://www.ommerum.co.uk/2014/04/preview-cradley-heathens-v-buxton.html Lastest post on my blog... Should be a simple victory this one but when looking at this years league its becoming more and more a two tiered league. Even as a Cradley fan I belive we should be having teams simlar to what Buxton have put out this year with the empahsis on young three pointers. Something needs to be done sooner rather than later as this league is going to become a bit micky mouse with some high flyers and some teams that in my opinion are doing it the right way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommer Mon Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 You may have seen I've been quite critical of the Scunny approach this year but I am not going to say the same about Buxton. I agree that the NL is there to develop promising young riders and I was right behind the Elite League changes this season. I think it will be good for British Speedway. Whereas I believe Scunny are doing it wrong at the expense of others in the League due their tracking of 6 3 pointers, I am far more comfortable with Buxton's approach in mixing youth with experience. It might be a right 'ommering tomorrow but I applaud Jayne Moss and her colleagues in even coming to the tapes this year. They run their club on a very tight budget and have survived the additional cost for the air fence somehow. The League is better for having them in it. I hope Buxton surprise a few as the season progresses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 I applaud scunny and Buxton in there efforts but our objective to there's is on a different level.whose right? I have no idea but I know tomorrows meeting is not worth my money. Therefore I'm off work this week so I'm off up the beacon instead. I salute the fans who support the meeting regardless of opposition and entertainment but to me my money is hard earned so if a couple of pints is more meaningful to me than a processional speedway meeting then that's my choice. I'm not saying I'm right it's just my choice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete cc Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 BRUNO, i think you are going to be missing a lot of meetings this year. Its your choice and nobody will say otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guesty1992 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Tom Perry is aiming for a double figure score when Cradley take on Buxton later tonight and is hoping to help send the Heathens back to the top of the National League table. Read more at: http://tomperryracing.co/2014/04/29/perry-looking-for-double-figures-against-buxton/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craftman Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Firstly Scunthorpe , now Buxton this isn't proper racing it's an embarrasement ! At least when they both meet there might be some competition . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) I'll say it again.. Cradley continuing to race in the NL with a side as strong as this is not sustainable....Keep on winning the NL year after year but how long will the crowd watch thrashings week after week? Edited April 29, 2014 by Mike.Butler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil H Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Hope they had a good crowd and not too many followed Bruno's example as they would need deep pockets to fork out the points money that tonight cost. From the updates, it looked like the Buxton riders tried to mix it but lack of racing and away from home counted against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Before everyone starts complaining about teams being weak again. Cradley fans: did you enjoy the meeting? Was the racing good or was it gate and go stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Before everyone starts complaining about teams being weak again. Cradley fans: did you enjoy the meeting? Was the racing good or was it gate and go stuff?No,No,Mainly.A few reasonably entertaining races. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Before everyone starts complaining about teams being weak again. Cradley fans: did you enjoy the meeting? Was the racing good or was it gate and go stuff? First heat was a belter, then we had proberbly two other heats where Carr and Atkin had a bash at stopping the 5-1's but failed. Young Woolley got a second place and the Heathens fans mocked with cheers. It was predicatble and underwhelming and something has got to be done to make the teams more consistant. Ive said on my twitter feed that the league needs a Maximum points limit that is around 38points and then a Minimum points limit around 35 points to bring the teams in line and the quality between them all is spread out. Its no-ones fault as the rules are now set in stone for this season but it was clear to see from the off a now a two tiered league is now developing. This league is and should always be about brining young british riders through, however if its not competative then you might aswell have practice nights which in reality was what this meeting was tonight. Buxton in there first meeting and they got nowhere near the Heathens at all who were just flying around with no pressure and filling there boots. 83 points the Heathens management will have to pay tonight and if they are sticking to the £10 a point rule then they better hope the crowds do keep coming as there wont be much left to build a stadium if that ever happens! Edited April 29, 2014 by Ommer UM Speedway Blog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 You may have seen I've been quite critical of the Scunny approach this year but I am not going to say the same about Buxton. Whereas I believe Scunny are doing it wrong at the expense of others in the League due their tracking of 6 3 pointers, I am far more comfortable with Buxton's approach in mixing youth with experience. It might be a right 'ommering tomorrow but I applaud Jayne Moss and her colleagues in even coming to the tapes this year. That right mix or youth and experience worked a treat eh!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Before everyone starts complaining about teams being weak again. Cradley fans: did you enjoy the meeting? Was the racing good or was it gate and go stuff? My first NL meeting this year due to logistics, it was actually worse than i expected, the first heat was competitive, there were maybe 2 others of interest ie Buxton did better than 3rd place, that was it. Even in the reserves races there were big gaps between riders, yes maybe its competitive in the broadest sense of the word, but its not exciting, a little word of advice for Ryan when he next comes to Monmore, ride the inside line, just as if its Buxton on a difficult day, he will find that its much easier, and better to let the guys behind do the risky stuff to get past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Again I think that one team is too strong and the other too weak. There needs to be a compromise. Edited April 29, 2014 by therefused 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 One thing I would like to know without been jumped on etc is Why the heck did the Cradley Team Manager when so far ahead give the 2 most experienced guys (Starke and Worrall) Heat 15. Surely times like this it would have been More to the benefit long term of Cradley to give the likes of Clegg, Greaves or Williamson more track time?? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 One thing I would like to know without been jumped on etc is Why the heck did the Cradley Team Manager when so far ahead give the 2 most experienced guys (Starke and Worrall) Heat 15. Surely times like this it would have been More to the benefit long term of Cradley to give the likes of Clegg, Greaves or Williamson more track time?? Yep i agree he could have used Clegg or/and Williamson, but Im never sure who can or who cant be used in Ht 15. I think in all 5 riders got maximums or paid max,s the other being Perry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccolo Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Would Cradley fans support Premier League on a Tuesday at £15 instead of £11?? Even if they were mid table or lower? I reckon the three wise men would love to know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathen1984 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 We would support Cradley where ever in the league they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Would Cradley fans support Premier League on a Tuesday at £15 instead of £11?? Even if they were mid table or lower? I reckon the three wise men would love to know the answer. Edited April 30, 2014 by bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 maybe a maximum pay rate may help to equalize the teams? say something like 10 pound a point...? if everyone had to pay that then surely that would mean riders wouldnt choose to go to the highest payers thus spreading around the talent available and making the racing more competitive..? oh, hang on, just realised, that already exists.... zero sympathy for those teams who pay out far more than the standard rate to attract the best riders out there for each position in the team, then amazingly moan that the meetings are 'one sided'... how in all reality, can they be surprised....? each team has its own business plan in the NL with widely different objectives, finding a 'happy medium' would be I suggest nigh on impossible given the diversity of what success looks like for each team.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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