Aces51 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 That would be successful multiple league and cup winning cheating scumbags, thank you No. I think he meant Poole. They've won a few as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I am completely correct in saying Holder hates the place. Go and ask him on Monday if you don't believe me. I have seen those words come out of his mouth twice. He dispises the track.Tell him that if he goes there and scores 3 or 4 points we'll believe him. If not, he just appears to be either an idiot or a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I have seen those words come out of his mouth twice. Did they come out in a speech bubble then? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Close match in prospect. True that Holder hasn't hidden his feelings about the Aces track in the past. Despite that he's won plenty of races at Kirky Lane in some style. Looking forward to watching Milik race live for the first time. Josh G is usually good at Belle Vue, Janowski & Pawlicki know how to win races there too. If Newman isn't fit then I'm sure Matt Ford will find a suitable track specialist guest reserve. So it promises be a stiff challenge for the Aces, Zagar & Nicholls have been outstanding at home, though Cook & Worrall have only shown flashes of their best form. Palm Toft & Nielsen's home performances have compensated well there in the opening two matches. Prediction - a 47-43 home win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Tell him that if he goes there and scores 3 or 4 points we'll believe him. If not, he just appears to be either an idiot or a liar. Just because he scores well there doesn't change the fact he doesn't like the track. He is a professional rider so gets on with the job. Don't think he is the only rider who doesn't like the BV track either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Looking at Holders results you' could almost think he was lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Looking at Holders results you' could almost think he was lying.Because he is such a good rider who enjoys riding for the Champs. Wonder if bet 365 are going to venture up there or Wolves on Monday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Not saying he doesnt like the track but he always scores well there. so as i say if you get beat it will be nothing to do with Holder hating the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 So, is Smart riding or not?? As others have inferred on another thread! Still not seen anything official.......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Just because he scores well there doesn't change the fact he doesn't like the track.He might not like Shredded Wheat either, but in terms of scoring points in a Speedway match that is just as irrelevant. In terms of piling up points on a speedway track the facts show Belle Vue is one of his best. I think you're going to have to look somewhere else for an excuse for the defeat that you seem to be expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Anybody know the teams? Newman withdrew last night so if he's still unfit it would probably be ex Ace Garrity at reserve. On the Aces website it has Guest TBC for Smart, what's that all about? Just noticed that Kyle is also missing the Plymouth fixture tonight. Edited April 25, 2014 by ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 What difference does it make if Holder likes or dislikes a track as long as he scores points on it and doesn't let his team down. In the Grand Prix there are tracks he likes and others he ain't so keen on. All riders are like that but are still capable of doing the job they are paid for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I am completely correct in saying Holder hates the place. Go and ask him on Monday if you don't believe me. I have seen those words come out of his mouth twice. He dispises the track. Bullseye, hole in one, back of the net & 100% predictable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Anybody know the teams? Newman withdrew last night so if he's still unfit it would probably be ex Ace Garrity at reserve. On the Aces website it has Guest TBC for Smart, what's that all about? Just noticed that Kyle is also missing the Plymouth fixture tonight. I think the BV website, at the end of the Wolves/BV match report, shows 'Guest TBC for Newman'!! Smart's name has just been accidentally missed off the list!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Bullseye, hole in one, back of the net & 100% predictable you are just agreeing with what I meant Josh bates for Smart. Well someone had to say it. Not saying its true though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Wonder if it's a Belle Vue mistake and it's TBH for Newman and not smart. Seems a resonable mistake Edited April 25, 2014 by Phil The Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Because he is such a good rider who enjoys riding for the Champs. Wonder if bet 365 are going to venture up there or Wolves on Monday? Belle Vue v Poole on Bet365 Monday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 so on one hand we have the resident master of getting facts wrong in Shovlar saying Holder hates the place, then another poster saying he rarely drops a point! so lets have a look! JUNE 2011 - 12 +1 from 5 AUGUST 2011 - 14 from 5 JULY 2012 - 11 + 1 from 4 (paid max) JUNE 2013 - 14 +1 from 6 So yet again Shovlar has no clue about facts before posting as basically Holder flies round there! But he is always good at getting things wrong. I am completely correct in saying Holder hates the place. Go and ask him on Monday if you don't believe me. I have seen those words come out of his mouth twice. He dispises the track. PMFSL. Your prediction factors Holder`s dislike of the track yet his record shows it was a nonsense prediction. Shov classic. Josh bates for Smart. Well someone had to say it. Not saying its true though. That was the rumour the minute Smart was signed and Bates pulled out of Swindon. Reading his interview in SS he wont be looking to travel that far however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) I would be disappointed to see Lee Smart leave the Pirates, he might not be a great speedway rider but he's trying his hardest. Not everyone has the voice of Liam Gallagher but you still sing along to songs like Don't look back in anger and Stop crying your heart out Edited April 25, 2014 by Liam Gallagher Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 You would think and hope Bates will be rated higher than Smart when included in the list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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