pointsmeanplayoffs Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Just checking whether there is any Lee Smart news? Nothing on the Sky Sports News Breaking News Ticker...... As for Holder having a higher average than Ward, Poole were still within the 32 pt limit so fair play they bought him in so it's a valid re-declaration. As far as an injury goes, he's either injured or he's not. You can't almost score a maximum in Poland, almost win a SGP and be injured surely? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Still an injury replacement. i can't understand why he would be allowed as n injury replacement rather than a re-declaration, given his higher avergae. Would this have been allowed if he had put them over the points limit? Regardless, my point remain that there is no benefit to Poole in Holder reducing his average unless he can get it to close to 7, which ould require him scoring 2 or 3 a meeting, which would certainly raise questions.he had a bad meeting, end of (IMHO). The case of missing smart however could do with some ansering. As for Holder having a higher average than Ward, Poole were still within the 32 pt limit so fair play they bought him in so it's a valid re-declaration. but poole fans are arguing that it wasnt a re-declaration - which no one could have an issue with - but a fixed term injury replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaleshifter Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) After a long drive back from Manchester and slightly downbeat mood. Firstly well done to the Aces for the win last night. The meeting was won and lost for Poole with the under performance of Holder and Janowski as opposed to the sharp gating and passing by Craig Cook and Matej Zagar. At 36 all Poole were still in the hunt but fell away badly over the last 3 heats.There is plenty room for inprovement from the Pirates but nevetheless Belle-Vue are a lot stronger at home this season. We will get revenge a week on Wednesday when the Aces come down to Wimborne Road. Now quickly on to another matter, the anti Poole bashers on this forum really are a sad bunch of people constantly hijacking Poole threads to go off topic to attack Matt-Ford and Poole in particular. There is not a day goes by without some nasty vile comment made towards Poole or accusations made. My view is this to all the anti Poole keyboard warriors out there take a look closer to home at how your clubs are run Too many of you have rose tinted glasses on when it comes to your own clubs. Also calling Poole cheats firstty you have to have proof of a any mis-doing. The absence of Lee-Smart has kicked up a storm and seems to have started a witch-hunt. Also the alleged average dropping by Chris Holder. Rant over from me. Once again well-done to the Aces. Edited April 29, 2014 by Shaleshifter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 i can't understand why he would be allowed as n injury replacement rather than a re-declaration, given his higher avergae. Would this have been allowed if he had put them over the points limit? Regardless, my point remain that there is no benefit to Poole in Holder reducing his average unless he can get it to close to 7, which ould require him scoring 2 or 3 a meeting, which would certainly raise questions.he had a bad meeting, end of (IMHO). The case of missing smart however could do with some ansering. but poole fans are arguing that it wasnt a re-declaration - which no one could have an issue with - but a fixed term injury replacement. I understand, it will be interesting to see what happens when Holder's 28 days is up. Will he be given another fixed length replacement deal to give Darcy enough time to build up his fitness gradually by only riding in Poland and the SGP's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 If Holder is in the Poole team, and Poole are within the points limit. Then, surely, they can bring Ward back in whenever they want as long as they are still within the points limit. So what's the issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 I understand, it will be interesting to see what happens when Holder's 28 days is up. Will he be given another fixed length replacement deal to give Darcy enough time to build up his fitness gradually by only riding in Poland and the SGP's? i believe the ruling was that holder was in for a minimum 28 days, not maximum. If Holder is in the Poole team, and Poole are within the points limit. Then, surely, they can bring Ward back in whenever they want as long as they are still within the points limit. So what's the issue? but poole are now over 32 points in the latest greensheets, meaning that if holder is part of a re-declared team, ward can only replace him if he has a lower average than holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 As far as an injury goes, he's either injured or he's not. You can't almost score a maximum in Poland, almost win a SGP and be injured surely? Are you new to speedway? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Ok Poole fans as we are all anti Poole then clear it up for us. WHY WHEN THERE IS ANYTHING REMOTELY UNDERHAND POOLE ARE INVOLVED? Smart is missing but its ok its Poole hence why there fans are quiet. What i find hilarious is that bar maybe 1 or 2 they just cant accept getting beat easily by a better team. Holder scored 4 because he doesnt like the track? Tosh he regularly posts double figures there. He was passed by Palm Toft in his opening ride. A rider of Holders calibre should not be overtaken by one of Palm Tofts calibre on any track. As i said at the start of the season Janowski will be a liability away on most tracks. Gating tart basically. Cant wait to see if he even turns up at Lakeside or Eastbourne or will he mysteriously be injured or be the only pole who misses his flight! Dont know if this average dropping thing by Holder is correct but it wouldnt suprise me. You only have to be the strongest 1-7 in August onwards not April 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Lee smart was so say dropped that why he wasn't there. The guy wasn't even given a chance I spoke to lee at Poole on Good Friday he had all his bikes sorted and ready to go and he look better in both meetings that day. I think this Draft is another way to mess around with the British riders how can they have a chance of doing anything if they can get swapped around like this. I honestly think if bates is coming in for smart then why should he be if he pulled out of Swindon then he shouldn't be allowed back in. He ain't scoring great and he lucky to win the under 21 It's not bates coming in for smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Still an injury replacement. erm not its nor its a redeclaration but wouldnt expect you to get anything right why would we think of getting rid of Vaclav? So far he has done his job and more. would have got 5 last night if he wasn't trying to win the heat and that's 5 more than I expected from him to be honest. The track must have given him the collywobbles on the track walk. Very good little rider for his age. Poole are known for making title winning changes its the only part of Matt Ford i admire. They will not think twice of getting rid of Milik to make the side stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Poole are known for making title winning changes its the only part of Matt Ford i admire. They will not think twice of getting rid of Milik to make the side stronger. Oh i don't know, if one of the main 5 (other than there number 1) reach above 8 they can replace them with Kasprzak. Tho Kasprzak is no real improvement on either of there current top 3 IMHO - not from an EL perspective anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 i believe the ruling was that holder was in for a minimum 28 days, not maximum. but poole are now over 32 points in the latest greensheets, meaning that if holder is part of a re-declared team, ward can only replace him if he has a lower average than holder. Ah right. So he must be an injury replacement then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 I don't understand all the fuss about Lee Smart's non-appearance in this meeting. I think the issue is that there is a lack of communication and the conspiracy theorists have gone into overdrive. I'm sure that there is an explanation which will be forthcoming but who cares anyway? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Oh i don't know, if one of the main 5 (other than there number 1) reach above 8 they can replace them with Kasprzak. Tho Kasprzak is no real improvement on either of there current top 3 IMHO - not from an EL perspective anyway. Kasprzak may have had some indifferent meetings for other clubs but for Poole he has always been terrific and is a much better rider than Janowski or Pawlicki, he certainly didn't let me down on saturday !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Shame Ollie is one place above Smart on the newly revised FT draft list - or maybe they're on exactly the same average?!!! Greenwood is 8 places below Smart until Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) I can't understand all the enquiries about Lee Smart, he was at Belle Vue last night - he was riding at No 5 apparently! Edited April 29, 2014 by TesarRacing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Why are people saying the fans are being quiet ffs we are trying to find out are selves why Lee Smart was missing, if he has been dropped I won't be happy at all and I think there is a good few others that will be upset, because the lad has imo not been given a bloody chance to show what he can do. I am disgusted with our management at the moment for not releasing a statement about the absence of Smart, as far as I was aware reading the echo Smart was in and line up confirmed even Matt Fords quote said, Ford anticipates that fellow reserve Lee Smart will be available. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastword Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) From Poole website: Whilst Aces' Captain Cook went through the card unbeaten by a Pirate, Poole's skipper Maciej Janowski 'love affair' with the Belle Vue circuit never improved. Janowski had failed to score from three rides on his last visit to Manchester and with a fall and a heat 6 last place to his name he was again struggling to find the winning groove. But when he and fellow Pole Przemyslaw Pawlicki partnered up for a second time it looked for certain that they had delivered the goods and held off the intense interests of the previously unbeaten Matej Zagar.But when the result was announced it was met with a stunned silence and much head turning towards the referee's gantry as in the eyes of the SCB official Willie Dishington Zagar's efforts had been strong enough just to get up on the line and ###### second place from the team riding Pirates.It was a crucial decision as the visitors had just levelled the meeting after dual guests Charles Wright and Oliver Greenwood had paired up for Poole in heat 9 to claim maximum points. Had Poole been given that second successive maximum score it would have given them a little bit of breathing space Ah,so that's why the Aces won. ( I didn't see any Poole officials on the finishing line by the way) A little humility would go a long way in helping to counter the dislike that so many fans have for the Dorset set-up. Edited April 29, 2014 by lastword 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Greenwood is 8 places below Smart until Thursday. Smart is averaging what 5-6 in NL? Greenwood averaging 10... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 There was silence until the result was announced because it was obviously a close call. When it was announced it was meet with loud cheers. Typically biased newspaper reporting which can be found in most local press. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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