Peterborough V Newcastle - Tuesday 29th April

[g13webb]

Terrific meeting to watch and well done to the Panthers on their victory. Must feel sorry for Newcastle, everything possible went wrong, the score would have been much closer without all the mishaps. Cant imagine they would have won, but a point would have been some reward for the fighting display they showed.

 

Lewis Kerr was such a let down. Four times he made the gate and each time his bike packed up within a lap. Surely someone could have let him a bike, but to persevere with that machine last night was wrong.... You can always sort out problems another day, not when the paying public is expecting more from you than just a lap each time......

 

Can't imagine Buster and Rob Lyon being too pleased if that happens again tonight....

[jenga]

lewis kerr, 4 e/fs in the same place and on the same lap . indicate to me its a fuel problem. .sticking carb float. it burned the fuel off in the carb and was unable to get fresh fuel in the carb bowl to keep it going. its not rocket science. its mechanics..hey lewis , check oyut yer fuel taps as well do you have an oil and filter man as a mechanic..

[crazyb]

Certainly one of the best Tracks I have been to. The only one I can presently think of to beat it was Belle Vue, Hyde Road.

 

Even then it is close.

Unfortunately I only went to Hyde Road once, but there were plenty of racing lines, certainly the likes of PC and CM found them. BTW, you did well to reply to my quote an hour before I posted it!!

[Django]

My two penneth from last night - excellent meeting, hope it would have been closer but not to be, track was great, so many different lines to ride. Did Kerr try both his bikes? If not he needs his a**e kicked. I agree with Tsunami that Lindgren beat Fisher to the line. I also thought that the riding by Lindgren to keep Bjerre at bay in heat 11 was fantastic. I think George's reasoning to giving Rosen the tactical ride was that he was off gate 1 which I think had 5 wins at the time. It was hard to predict the Henry would fly out of gate 4 in the next heat. How Rosen walked away from that crash I will never know, it looked terrifying to see the bike smash into him. Lastly for Peterborough I thought they all performed consistently well without any of them being outstanding, good all around team performance. Good to see Greenwood perform better than he did at weekend though

Edited April 30, 2014 by DynamoDave

[crazyb]

Question? the race suit pattern/style is a subject of taste and to me they look really good- Almost like having seven Ken Le Bretons back for the Diamonds. I do trust however you are not one of those 'harking back to the good old days' fossils who wants to see individual suits return.

I for one like the individual suits. Having seen EL meetings such as Panthers v Swindon (when all fourteen looked like clones), and some photos from last night on Peterborough's website, (I can't tell who the Diamonds riders are) but Panthers with the individual suits are easy to identify

[ruckerroo]

enjoyed the match, generally close and exciting with not a lap between the first and last like the other league ,only really going to be one winner but newcastle battled very gamely and not much went right for em, well prepared track, worth 15 quid let alone a fiver to watch that first class meeting.

[bigcatdiary]

Thought it was a great meeting, plenty of passing and more than enough incidents to keep everyone happy including Sky.

 

I certainly don't think Newcastle were unlucky not to get anything as they were beaten by the better team but they played their part well and battled well despite their problems.

 

Pleased to see Rosen walk away from that spill it looked horrendous.

[ruffdiamond]

My two penneth from last night - excellent meeting, hope it would have been closer but not to be, track was great, so many different lines to ride. Did Kerr try both his bikes? If not he needs his a**e kicked. I agree with Tsunami that Lindgren beat Fisher to the line. I also thought that the riding by Lindgren to keep Bjerre at bay in heat 11 was fantastic. I think George's reasoning to giving Rosen the tactical ride was that he was off gate 1 which I think had 5 wins at the time. It was hard to predict the Henry would fly out of gate 4 in the next heat. How Rosen walked away from that crash I will never know, it looked terrifying to see the bike smash into him. Lastly for Peterborough I thought they all performed consistently well without any of them being outstanding, good all around team performance. Good to see Greenwood perform better than he did at weekend though

sublime ride by Ludvig to cover Henry and block Bjerre's every move,,, and from '1' that can't or does'nt team ride (apparently),,, worth the entrance fee alone, IMO,,,

if we can sort the niggling problems out and claim a top 6 finish and hit the play offs running,,, maybe we can get the job done,,, (hope I have'nt unveiled the 'master-plan' there folks),,, ;-)

[Agrotron]

Just glad Anton was ok was a very nasty spill indeed poor Schramm looked beside himself in the pits poor chap, all in all a ok meeting was very impressed with Lewis Blackbird real battler that one and one to definitely watch. Don't know what was up with Kerr not good enough running on crap equipment.

[StevePark]

Just glad Anton was ok was a very nasty spill indeed poor Schramm looked beside himself in the pits poor chap, all in all a ok meeting was very impressed with Lewis Blackbird real battler that one and one to definitely watch. Don't know what was up with Kerr not good enough running on crap equipment.

 

Blooming heck!!! You're hard to please!!!

 

That meeting is probably in my Top 10 of best meetings I've seen.

 

Concerning Lewi K. Has anyone thought that on the night they believed they had cured the problems before going out on track?? Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[mike1944]

Terrific meeting. Riders from both teams looked they were going all out to win. I posted earlier on here that meetings from the PL produced great racing when televised on Sky and last night was certainly no exception. The riders gave their all and that was good to see.

[BWitcher]

Luckily negativity isn't what made this sport great

 

It isn't doing great, in case you hadn't noticed.

oh for god's sakes

 

No, oh for god's sakes about it.

 

It does not matter how good the racing is, if a casual viewer switches on and sees a paltry crowd they're not going to be interested 99% of the team. It's simple.

 

 

I don't think that's true.

 

What would make my mind up for me was whether I liked it, not whether it was popular with others.

 

You can think what you like, but it is true. It's proven. It's basic business sense.

 

If you have two restaurants, one has lots of people in it, one is empty, you know nothing about either, most will go in the one with lots of people in it.. not all, but MOST.

 

It's the sheep mentality. Basic rules of advertising.

 

 

People go to lower league football and when on TV the stadiums aren't full.

 

Not a comparison, folk know all about what football is.

[TheScotsman]

Fantastic night's speedway.

Not as Baltic as in previous weeks - biggest disappointment was the length of the queue at the fish & chip van - only 1 lady serving instead of the usual 2, BUT the big plus was that it meant I was still in the queue when Queenie's song came on so I didn't have to stand up again or get glared at by the locals. No-one in the queue seemed to take any notice of it, so I felt I was amongst friends!

 

Track was the best I have ever seen it racing lines everywhere after the first few races.

Strange therefore that gate 1 was so dominant - 9 winners (gate 2 = 3; 3 = 1; 4 = 2).

 

Lindgren rode reasonably well - 6+1 away from home pretty much matches his average.

Great to see ex-Monarch Christian Henry ride so well - equaled track record in heat 1 (did he say he had a puncture or something? I couldn't quite catch the announcer.).Should never have let him go!

Robson was very entertaining but not that dominant, though he was having a mighty battle with the Fish in heat 10 till Fish came off.

Kerr was a disaster. As others have said, did he only have 1 bike to try? Ridiculous to have the same problem in 4 races, all when in a good position. Pretty damn dangerous too given how close the others were to him each he packed up.

Rosen didn't really get a chance to show how good he is. Very very nasty crash. Amazed he was back up and planning to fly from Stansted that evening!

Schramm was the bam as always. Pulled off an amazing recovery in heat 2 when he reared up coming out of bend 4 and then in heat 9 he reared in bend 2 and collected Rosen. Otherwise he rode ok.

Rose - not sure what to make of him. Being a Kings Lynn rider, I expected his to be completely at home at the Showground. 4 points from 6 rides would suggest he wasn't and certainly in his first 3, he wasn't on it all. But in the rerun of heat 9, standing in for Rosen he rode really well to keep Dryml behind him. Jury's out!!

 

The Fish was very entertaining. You certainly don't see him running a last in heat 1 very often. 3 wins plus the big battle with Robson (on a t/r) in heat 10 when he lifted and baled out on bend 4 but had the presence of mind to keep both hands on the bars and get up and continue for the single point after yet another Kerr ef.

Blackbird rode well for his 8, especially when he kept Robson behind him in that heat 10.

Dryml rode well - a couple of lightning gates and a decent score of 9 and the only real blip was finishing behind Rose in heat 9.

Ostergaard was ok - he had a couple of good wins in his 3rd & 4th outings (the last one after a last minute change of bikes) which probably gave him the heat 15 gig, Dunno which bike he was on in heat 15, but it promptly died just after the start!!

Jacobs was better than usual.and couldn't have been expected to get any more than his 6+1.

Greenwood continues to impress and looked very determined in his first 2. Unfortunately his bike gave out a big cloud of smoke in his 3rd ride and he then finished his 4th behind Robson and Schramm the bam.

 

So next week should be the big test against the mighty Monarchs.

I hate to be disloyal but I can see Peterborough winning that one!!

I think the big track advantage will be too much.

[BWitcher]

Suggest you look at attendances at other sports on TV. Most football matches from the lower league Stadiums are 75% empty. Cricket counry matches are nearly alway empty. Watching live tennis on mornings on TV there would perhaps be 100 people watching. Thats probable the top three sports most people are interested in this country.

 

And again utterly irrelevant Football, cricket and tennis. You've found the flaw in your argument in your final sentence.. the top 3 sports people are interested in.

 

People aren't interested in speedway, to get them interested you have to make it appear to be the new 'place to be'.

 

The racing last night was superb.... but it all goes to waste apart from the hardcore viewers.

Edited April 30, 2014 by BWitcher

[TheScotsman]

 

And again utterly irrelevant Football, cricket and tennis. You've found the flaw in your argument in your final sentence.. the top 3 sports people are interested in.

 

People aren't interested in speedway, to get them interested you have to make it appear to be the new 'place to be'.

 

Most matches on tv show the crowds to be pretty meagre.

The problem Peterborough has is that most of the punters are housed in the huge stand which I think someone said holds about 2000.

They prefer to sit in the half just after the start so any focus on the other half or on the rest of the ground will make it look very sparsely attended.

 

I would estimate that there were a good 1000 in the stand and a few hundred around the ground which I would think is a decent attendance for a match that is on tv/streams though entry for a fiver was a phenomenal deal.

[BWitcher]

 

Most matches on tv show the crowds to be pretty meagre.

 

 

Correct.

 

Hence years and years of coverage and no benefit gained.

 

The sport has an amazing advertising tool and does nothing with it.

 

Last night was an example of how great the sport can be.. but its not us that needs convincing.

[TheScotsman]

But it's the same if you watch football live at lesser grounds.

We have got so spoiled by tv that as soon as there is an incident we want to see the action replay.

Go to the match live and your first thought is - I need to see that incident again, but you can't because there's no facility there.

 

What's the incentive to go to a televised speedway match.

No action replays, slo-mos, any of that.

Chilly nights, less than ideal surroundings.

Watch it on the tv and you can see an incident from half a dozen camera angles in slo-mo again and again.

You would never have caught that if you were there live because of the speed involved.

 

I thought the Fish may not have given Lindgren enough room in heat 13 last night when Ludde clattered the fence on the home straight.

The tv replays on my phone showed that Fish was nowhere near him and Ludde hat clattered it all on his own.

(He did incredibly well to stay on and just about nick it on the line.)

 

Tv has probably contributed to the demise of speedway, but more because of its very existence than because some matches are on the box each week.

[pandorum]

Excellent speedway meeting. The PL has not disappointed once again.

Newcastle a little unlucky but that's speedway

[BWitcher]

But it's the same if you watch football live at lesser grounds.

We have got so spoiled by tv that as soon as there is an incident we want to see the action replay.

Go to the match live and your first thought is - I need to see that incident again, but you can't because there's no facility there.

 

What's the incentive to go to a televised speedway match.

No action replays, slo-mos, any of that.

Chilly nights, less than ideal surroundings.

Watch it on the tv and you can see an incident from half a dozen camera angles in slo-mo again and again.

You would never have caught that if you were there live because of the speed involved.

 

I thought the Fish may not have given Lindgren enough room in heat 13 last night when Ludde clattered the fence on the home straight.

The tv replays on my phone showed that Fish was nowhere near him and Ludde hat clattered it all on his own.

(He did incredibly well to stay on and just about nick it on the line.)

 

Tv has probably contributed to the demise of speedway, but more because of its very existence than because some matches are on the box each week.

 

No it isn't the same as football at all.

 

Football is everywhere. Everybody knows about football. It's an ingrained part of society. Football isn't relying on someone sitting at home watching a non league game and deciding to become a football fan.

 

Speedway on the other hand is. It needs to attract new fans. TV is the biggest tool it has to do that. They have to make it look like the place to be.

 

I'm not talking about the the benefits of watching a meeting on tv or at the stadium here. I'm talking about utilising the golden opportunity the sport has to promote itself via the medium of tv.

[mickthemuppet]

Yet there are less people watching Football today now than there has been in the last 60 years