Berwick V Newcastle 26/4/14 Pl

[Ned Kelly 41]

I am sure you remember when the riders turned up with their bike strapped to the back of a car, chucked their gear on, raced, then went to the pub and got pissed. I wou;ld also hazard a guess. that you enjoyed speedway more then than you do now.

I bet they did, too.

[YAMYAMBANDIT]

I bet they did, too.

And, yes they did. Need more pissy heads riding in speedway :drink:

[Fromafar]

I can't fathom how so many mediocre foreign riders can turn up year after year if they are not earning from the sport.Just what kind of money are journeymen riders making out of the sport,and good accountant must be required.I still enjoy my speedway,but for a lot of races nowadays it's all about the gate and 1st and second bend.riders seem to settle for what they have after that.We all have different opinions regarding now and then but there is no point in looking back.It might be age thing but I can certainly give it amiss nowadays (although I seldom do) and certainly don't think the sport is in good shape in Britain.There is still a nice atmosphere at Speedway and the riders are approachable in most cases which makes it the sport it is.

To be honest, I think the P.L. should be semi proffessional, all of them should have a job and speedway should just be a hobby. Wages paid out have not kept up with the massive increases in the cost of machinery. I am sure you remember when the riders turned up with their bike strapped to the back of a car, chucked their gear on, raced, then went to the pub and got pissed. I wou;ld also hazard a guess. that you enjoyed speedway more then than you do now.

[YAMYAMBANDIT]

I can't fathom how so many mediocre foreign riders can turn up year after year if they are not earning from the sport.Just what kind of money are journeymen riders making out of the sport,and good accountant must be required.I still enjoy my speedway,but for a lot of races nowadays it's all about the gate and 1st and second bend.riders seem to settle for what they have after that.We all have different opinions regarding now and then but there is no point in looking back.It might be age thing but I can certainly give it amiss nowadays (although I seldom do) and certainly don't think the sport is in good shape in Britain.There is still a nice atmosphere at Speedway and the riders are approachable in most cases which makes it the sport it is.

I am with you there, last season, I enjoyed the hour before and the many hours after the meeting. It really was about meeting the everyone you have got to know, it still what does it for me that very specialness around speedway, in general what a fantastic bunch of people, and for that reason, it really is worth sticking it out.

[The White Knight]

I am with you there, last season, I enjoyed the hour before and the many hours after the meeting. It really was about meeting the everyone you have got to know, it still what does it for me that very specialness around speedway, in general what a fantastic bunch of people, and for that reason, it really is worth sticking it out.

Well said!!!

 

I totally agree. :approve:

[screm]

Friday`s been nothing to write home about weatherwise, coastal mist, drizzle and not very nice.

There is rain forecast for most of tonight and into the early hours of the morning, Saturday will be a mostly dry during morning and afternoon but there will be rain pushing in from the south west, with a bit of luck that wont arrive in Berwick until after this meeting is completed.

Well i am certainly not on any riders backs and not sniping either just pointing out facts, and I also asked a straight forward question which i notice you have not commented on, i admit i know bugger all about Speedway Bikes but i am confused as to how a Bike you say is struggling for power can absolutely fly around the place when first out the traps but then be miles behind when it misses the start, I know we are only 4 home matches into the season but of those 4 we have lost one and very lucky for it not to be 2. I just hope the lads sort themselves out sooner rather than later so no sniping from me.

 

I`m sure those fans who can help the riders individually will do so, and I`m sure they are grateful for it, the rest of us help the riders in a very real way by attending as many meetings as possible.

[Brough Diamond]

Berwick are not the only team in this fixture with a suspect no1. Given Ludo's currant away form your bloke Doolan will have to be really atrocious to not take some points from him. We never know which of his twin personas we are going to get.

 

Big difference is that Doolan is not scoring as a number one but riding at a pretty steady level.

 

Ludo on the other hand looks like he could beat Nicky Pedersen one week and gets beaten by Mike Williamson the next. Probably one of the most frustrating riders I've seen in a Diamonds race jacket. His away form has been patchy but he might score a few in this one.

 

Diamonds need Lewis Kerr to discover some form too.

[Fromafar]

Big difference is that Doolan is not scoring as a number one but riding at a pretty steady level.

 

Ludo on the other hand looks like he could beat Nicky Pedersen one week and gets beaten by Mike Williamson the next. Probably one of the most frustrating riders I've seen in a Diamonds race jacket. His away form has been patchy but he might score a few in this one.

 

Diamonds need Lewis Kerr to discover some form too.

In his part season at Berwick Ludo was exactly the same except it was race to race.Dont know if he will ever be consistent enough to be a decent No1

[Justgotmecpc]

if lewis rose gets the hang of the track the diamonds will win by 4 points

[HadrianDog]

It's always lack of cash with you,perhaps these riders should be doing something else for a living .

 

Can I as a mere Diamonds fan, throw something else into the mix which maybe one of the Bandits faithful may have some insight on. I have a theory that the uncertain showings of many riders across the board is in no small measure related to the wholesale intro. of safety fences and the consequent redesign of many tracks to accommodate them. Have any of your post castle riders suggested that Shielfield post beans is altered just enough that the riders 'little black book' of bike settings/track cons has been rendered questionable.

To be honest, I think the P.L. should be semi proffessional, all of them should have a job and speedway should just be a hobby. Wages paid out have not kept up with the massive increases in the cost of machinery. I am sure you remember when the riders turned up with their bike strapped to the back of a car, chucked their gear on, raced, then went to the pub and got pissed. I wou;ld also hazard a guess. that you enjoyed speedway more then than you do now.

 

Slightly too young to remember those halcyon days but my father was there back in the thirties at Bough and he did . Talking to the older family members more recently, they also believe as you - mind you on a Sunday night some of our riders have been known to sink a few if of course Monday didn't have them guesting.

[DIAMONDS]

48-42 to Berwick and I'd be happy with the point

[Fromafar]

Can I as a mere Diamonds fan, throw something else into the mix which maybe one of the Bandits faithful may have some insight on. I have a theory that the uncertain showings of many riders across the board is in no small measure related to the wholesale intro. of safety fences and the consequent redesign of many tracks to accommodate them. Have any of your post castle riders suggested that Shielfield post beans is altered just enough that the riders 'little black book' of bike settings/track cons has been rendered questionable.

 

Slightly too young to remember those halcyon days but my father was there back in the thirties at Bough and he did . Talking to the older family members more recently, they also believe as you - mind you on a Sunday night some of our riders have been known to sink a few if of course Monday didn't have them guesting.

 

The air fence at Berwick made no difference to the track shape I think I am correct in saying

[screm]

The air fence at Berwick made no difference to the track shape I think I am correct in saying

 

To the best of my knowledge no track has changed to any significant degree since we have had air fences, that includes Berwick.

[emilali]

Cant see this being that great a meeting tbh, the GP seems an alot better option.

[screm]

Cant see this being that great a meeting tbh, the GP seems an alot better option.

 

Nothing better than actually being at the meeting, sadly due to work I`m missing in action this week and next, hope everyone can cope.

 

Looks like the weather wont affect this meeting, we had a fair bit of rain over night but things are drying up nicely.

 

Can I as a mere Diamonds fan, throw something else into the mix which maybe one of the Bandits faithful may have some insight on. I have a theory that the uncertain showings of many riders across the board is in no small measure related to the wholesale intro. of safety fences and the consequent redesign of many tracks to accommodate them. Have any of your post castle riders suggested that Shielfield post beans is altered just enough that the riders 'little black book' of bike settings/track cons has been rendered questionable.

 

 

 

Up till now we haven't used the installation of our fence as an excuse for a shoddy performance, so thanks for that, we can open a new page in the Hong Kong book of excuses.

[YAMYAMBANDIT]

 

Can I as a mere Diamonds fan, throw something else into the mix which maybe one of the Bandits faithful may have some insight on. I have a theory that the uncertain showings of many riders across the board is in no small measure related to the wholesale intro. of safety fences and the consequent redesign of many tracks to accommodate them. Have any of your post castle riders suggested that Shielfield post beans is altered just enough that the riders 'little black book' of bike settings/track cons has been rendered questionable.

 

Slightly too young to remember those halcyon days but my father was there back in the thirties at Bough and he did . Talking to the older family members more recently, they also believe as you - mind you on a Sunday night some of our riders have been known to sink a few if of course Monday didn't have them guesting.

I don't think the track is the problem. It aqppears to me that a simple concept, a single 500cc engined motor cycle going round 4 times in a circle or oval with a lunatic in the saddle, with little engineering involved, giving someone a cheap method of competing at speed. Somehow it has become an relatively expensive means of competition, with over tuned engines with and expensive parts, probably caused by greedy engine tuners and unscrupulous Promoters within the sport.

 

Perhaps it's time to go back to basics, and have something like club racing, with everyone on a a standard bike, which could only be tuned within the scope of off the shelf parts from which the make is. For instance The G.M. Speedway series, or The Jawa Speedway series.

[Paulco]

I don't think the track is the problem. It aqppears to me that a simple concept, a single 500cc engined motor cycle going round 4 times in a circle or oval with a lunatic in the saddle, with little engineering involved, giving someone a cheap method of competing at speed. Somehow it has become an relatively expensive means of competition, with over tuned engines with and expensive parts, probably caused by greedy engine tuners and unscrupulous Promoters within the sport.

 

Perhaps it's time to go back to basics, and have something like club racing, with everyone on a a standard bike, which could only be tuned within the scope of off the shelf parts from which the make is. For instance The G.M. Speedway series, or The Jawa Speedway series.

Time we binned the laydowns

[YAMYAMBANDIT]

 

Nothing better than actually being at the meeting, sadly due to work I`m missing in action this week and next, hope everyone can cope.

 

Looks like the weather wont affect this meeting, we had a fair bit of rain over night but things are drying up nicely.

 

Up till now we haven't used the installation of our fence as an excuse for a shoddy performance, so thanks for that, we can open a new page in the Hong Kong book of excuses.

Slap on the knuckles for you then

[screm]

I don't think the track is the problem. It aqppears to me that a simple concept, a single 500cc engined motor cycle going round 4 times in a circle or oval with a lunatic in the saddle, with little engineering involved, giving someone a cheap method of competing at speed. Somehow it has become an relatively expensive means of competition, with over tuned engines with and expensive parts, probably caused by greedy engine tuners and unscrupulous Promoters within the sport.

 

Perhaps it's time to go back to basics, and have something like club racing, with everyone on a a standard bike, which could only be tuned within the scope of off the shelf parts from which the make is. For instance The G.M. Speedway series, or The Jawa Speedway series.

 

The sport wont go back so it might be a case of evolution rather than revolution, though your probably right about the tracks, most of the tracks are still of similar shape and size that they were in the sixties and seventies when they were built, but the bikes they use now are hardly recognisable to the one they used back in the day.

[YAMYAMBANDIT]

Time we binned the laydowns

Thats you off the drink then