highside Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 you don't have a No1.... yea just like Berwick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I`m hoping that once the new averages change, and we get riders riding in different positions, their scores will start to improve, must admit I`d like to see Bellego taken from the No2 position straight away, change in averages or not.Ifail to to see what difference changing position will show any significant improvement in form.In Doolans case has rode in that position for most of his Teams.Whoever moves to No1 scores might drop if this is the case so what difference does it really make,this riding to your average is a nonsense most riders are signed because the clubs think they will improve their starting average.I agree regarding Kus wins his 1st race in 65 secs then is the length of the strait behind in aHeat that has also been won in 65 secs explain why the bike is going slower,or is not fast enough Taffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I agree, Kus looked super fast in his heat win, then miles behind later on. Â Enigmatic... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 So kus gates his bikes are ok, but doesn't and they are underpowered??..... Does this mean it's virtually impossible to pass at Berwick as it doesn't add up?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 So kus gates his bikes are ok, but doesn't and they are underpowered??..... Does this mean it's virtually impossible to pass at Berwick as it doesn't add up??It is difficult the pass Heat Leaders at Berwick after the 1st lap when the riders are up to speed but not impossible,plus you don't need passing to produce a good race as the u21 meeting showed last year.A bit of effort over 4laps would do me fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Â One or two on here are quick to point the finger at Kus, for apparently not doing his job. But look at his scores will tell you he is at least riding to his average, some others in the team are not, our faltering No1 for example. Berwick are not the only team in this fixture with a suspect no1. Given Ludo's currant away form your bloke Doolan will have to be really atrocious to not take some points from him. We never know which of his twin personas we are going to get. Edited April 24, 2014 by HadrianDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Ifail to to see what difference changing position will show any significant improvement in form.In Doolans case has rode in that position for most of his Teams.Whoever moves to No1 scores might drop if this is the case so what difference does it really make,this riding to your average is a nonsense most riders are signed because the clubs think they will improve their starting average.I agree regarding Kus wins his 1st race in 65 secs then is the length of the strait behind in aHeat that has also been won in 65 secs explain why the bike is going slower,or is not fast enough Taffy. Â Fair enough, therefore it might be a case if the promotion don't believe there will be any significant improvement after the new CMA`s come out that a rider or riders could be moved out to bring improvement to the team, that of course is opening a whole new can of beans. Doolans average will fall, while Bellegos and Vissing will rise, the others will stay roughly the same, might be a chance that wont come up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) I watched Doolan's scores once leaving Kings Lynn and managed to see him a few times since. Now bar an end of season run at Redcar where his scores were decent. Nothing since injury curtailed his 2010 suggests Kevin Doolan has performed to No1 standards. Kevin has never struck me as a tremendous trapper, and let's absoulutely frank about this gating IS imperative at Shielfield  Maybe it's something in the air down at the Norfolk Arena Tomas Topinka struggled badly after leaving Doolan WILL score points in the middle order. Even in his first season with us I remember the night we were 5-1'd against Sheffield in Heat 15 Doolan wasn't far off double figuers. He really struggled at the start of that season but did come good I'm sure he will this year. Luckily I think Vissing will form some sort of spearhead  Doolan's a decent bloke, good for team spirit, is he going to be an 8 point man or PLRC, no probably not but given "a few" of the donkeys we've employed I'm happy to see a professional bloke like Kevin at our club. Edited April 25, 2014 by BeastfromtheEast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Fair enough, therefore it might be a case if the promotion don't believe there will be any significant improvement after the new CMA`s come out that a rider or riders could be moved out to bring improvement to the team, that of course is opening a whole new can of beans. Doolans average will fall, while Bellegos and Vissing will rise, the others will stay roughly the same, might be a chance that wont come up again. I'm not sure but I don't think the averages change till end of May perhaps someone could clarify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) An iffy weather forecast for Saturday morning, let's hope it's wrong and stays drier for longer.  http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/berwick-upon-tweed-northumberland#?tab=fiveDay  Could be a Berwick home win by 10 - 12 pts. Edited April 25, 2014 by The Abbott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Not sure about Matej having under power Engines Taffy because when he gates he is gone and looks very fast but if he misses the gate he is miles behind looking really slow or should i say disinterested ,so dont really see where your under power statement comes from, i certainly hope he sorts it out but sooner rather than later.. Screm i totally agree our number 1s scores are very worrying indeed lets hope he also sorts it out sooner than later.. Alf, it does seem that certain fans are on the back of certain riders and so early in the season. Do you think it would be better if those fans helped the riders to solve their problems, than sniping at them. Although there seems to be some niggly problems with a few of the riders, it is still the most balanced team in the last 3 or 4 years. With the beggining of the P.L. fixtures this weekend lets hope they managed to sort them out. I am still hopeful for reasonable results, however I didn't see us vieing in the top 6, and still don't, but as long as we get competetive racing I am still a happy bunny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster00 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Kevin and Matej are both underperforming the difference is Kevin will start scoring points I think when Claus goes to number one. Â Kevin has proved time and time again he is good enough at this level and this is just a poor start for him, Matej on the other hand has been like this for 3 seasons at Redcar and so far this season I don't see any improvement he hasn't scored more that 7 but has only failed to win a race at Edinburgh inconsistent at the very least. Â Been very impressed with the other boys especially Stormy and Claus. Â I think we will win on saturday I'll go 48-42. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobs Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm not sure but I don't think the averages change till end of May perhaps someone could clarify? New BSPA averages for all clubs kick in from May 1st, but Berwick won't see any real change, Doolan still No 1 and the two reserves the same. Depending on form and results, next break-point is June 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 New BSPA averages for all clubs kick in from May 1st, but Berwick won't see any real change, Doolan still No 1 and the two reserves the same. Depending on form and results, next break-point is June 1st.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairplay1 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Alf, it does seem that certain fans are on the back of certain riders and so early in the season. Do you think it would be better if those fans helped the riders to solve their problems, than sniping at them. Although there seems to be some niggly problems with a few of the riders, it is still the most balanced team in the last 3 or 4 years. With the beggining of the P.L. fixtures this weekend lets hope they managed to sort them out. I am still hopeful for reasonable results, however I didn't see us vieing in the top 6, and still don't, but as long as we get competetive racing I am still a happy bunny. Well i am certainly not on any riders backs and not sniping either just pointing out facts, and I also asked a straight forward question which i notice you have not commented on, i admit i know bugger all about Speedway Bikes but i am confused as to how a Bike you say is struggling for power can absolutely fly around the place when first out the traps but then be miles behind when it misses the start, I know we are only 4 home matches into the season but of those 4 we have lost one and very lucky for it not to be 2. I just hope the lads sort themselves out sooner rather than later so no sniping from me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Well i am certainly not on any riders backs and not sniping either just pointing out facts, and I also asked a straight forward question which i notice you have not commented on, i admit i know bugger all about Speedway Bikes but i am confused as to how a Bike you say is struggling for power can absolutely fly around the place when first out the traps but then be miles behind when it misses the start, I know we are only 4 home matches into the season but of those 4 we have lost one and very lucky for it not to be 2. I just hope the lads sort themselves out sooner rather than later so no sniping from me. Never said you were Alf, it was just a statement. As I think they will all sort out their problems eventually, as long as they are allowed time. I believe it has something to do with his exhaust valves tightening up, but like you, I am no expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Well i am certainly not on any riders backs and not sniping either just pointing out facts, and I also asked a straight forward question which i notice you have not commented on, i admit i know bugger all about Speedway Bikes but i am confused as to how a Bike you say is struggling for power can absolutely fly around the place when first out the traps but then be miles behind when it misses the start, I know we are only 4 home matches into the season but of those 4 we have lost one and very lucky for it not to be 2. I just hope the lads sort themselves out sooner rather than later so no sniping from me.What you have to remember Taffy's criticisms are not considered sniping by HIM!!!!Never said you were Alf, it was just a statement. As I think they will all sort out their problems eventually, as long as they are allowed time. I believe it has something to do with his exhaust valves tightening up, but like you, I am no expert.Should riders not be prepared for the start of the season instead of spending half the season sorting out their problems during the season .As far as motorcycles go speedway engines are not that complicated but are always seem to be the excuse.I know a couple of road racers who can't believe the excuses about machinery that riders come up with. Edited April 25, 2014 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 What you have to remember Taffy's criticisms are not considered sniping by HIM!!!! Should riders not be prepared for the start of the season instead of spending half the season sorting out their problems during the season .As far as motorcycles go speedway engines are not that complicated but are always seem to be the excuse.I know a couple of road racers who can't believe the excuses about machinery that riders come up with. Riders probably thought they were, then things go wrong and they have to put them right, at a time when they have spent everything they have. Then because things went wrong, they wern't scoring enough to earn the cash to put them right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Riders probably thought they were, then things go wrong and they have to put them right, at a time when they have spent everything they have. Then because things went wrong, they wern't scoring enough to earn the cash to put them right. Â It's always lack of cash with you,perhaps these riders should be doing something else for a living . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 It's always lack of cash with you,perhaps these riders should be doing something else for a living . To be honest, I think the P.L. should be semi proffessional, all of them should have a job and speedway should just be a hobby. Wages paid out have not kept up with the massive increases in the cost of machinery. I am sure you remember when the riders turned up with their bike strapped to the back of a car, chucked their gear on, raced, then went to the pub and got pissed. I wou;ld also hazard a guess. that you enjoyed speedway more then than you do now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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