stevebrum Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Oh how the Elite League has crumbled. Gone are the days of world class teams and brilliant heat leaders. Now, all we see is one decent rider per team, one back-up averaging what a third heatleader should be, three riders on mid/weak second string averages and the two reserves. Yes dreadful. That hancock/ward/Holder pairing was awful last year. The Lindgren/Woffinden partnership even worse. And of course the Bjerre/Iversen pairing this year is total dire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Yes dreadful. That hancock/ward/Holder pairing was awful last year. The Lindgren/Woffinden partnership even worse. And of course the Bjerre/Iversen pairing this year is total dire. Would just like to point out that these two partnerships were before the new system/rules came out Also why doesn't the speedwaygb website work for me? Is anyone else having a problem with the website just not loading up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Would just like to point out that these two partnerships were before the new system/rules came out Also why doesn't the speedwaygb website work for me? Is anyone else having a problem with the website just not loading up? There is no new rules or system that prevent teams building top heavy if they want. GP site works fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 how does heatleaders with five point averages suggest a stronger product when teams used to have third heat leaders on 7+ averages If the league is so hard the one time 7 pointers are now averaging 5..... Either they have all got rubbish or they have harder races now. There only ever been 90 points available in a meeting, so the average team will always come to about 42. So the averages of riders will stay about the same. You CANNOT determine the strength of the league based on the number of riders with an average of over 7 (or any other figure you pick) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 There is no new rules or system that prevent teams building top heavy if they want. GP site works fine for me. It just keeps loading up a plain white screen and it's doing me nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 It just keeps loading up a plain white screen and it's doing me nut Odd! http://speedwaygp.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I think the Elite League should have 45 point average teams to attract the bigger riders in the world (like your Emils, Nickis and your Jaroslaws) and this would hopefully pump more money into the sport so the teams don't struggle to survive as much. It would also make the League more exciting to watch and hopefully bring in bigger crowds coming to see the new world class riders. I think the Premier League should be 42.5 averages but at least 4 out of the 7 riders in every team should be British, this would bring on the Brits as good as the system we have now. I think the National League should be like what Scunthorpe Stags have done and prioritise on bringing in new 3.00 averaged British talents like your Ryan Mcdonalds and your Liam Sandersons. This IMO would be a better system for British speedway but I suppose it's easier said that done. Odd! http://speedwaygp.com/ Sorry, not that website I mean the Great British speedway website This one http://www.speedwaygb.co/homepage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Sorry, not that website I mean the Great British speedway website This one http://www.speedwaygb.co/homepage Aaah. Yep, the BSPA one opens for me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Aaah. Yep, the BSPA one opens for me too God damn Stupid website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Oh how the Elite League has crumbled. Gone are the days of world class teams and brilliant heat leaders. Now, all we see is one decent rider per team, one back-up averaging what a third heatleader should be, three riders on mid/weak second string averages and the two reserves. Not at Lynn :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I think the Elite League should have 45 point average teams to attract the bigger riders in the world (like your Emils, Nickis and your Jaroslaws) and this would hopefully pump more money into the sport so the teams don't struggle to survive as much. It would also make the League more exciting to watch and hopefully bring in bigger crowds coming to see the new world class riders. I think the Premier League should be 42.5 averages but at least 4 out of the 7 riders in every team should be British, this would bring on the Brits as good as the system we have now. I think the National League should be like what Scunthorpe Stags have done and prioritise on bringing in new 3.00 averaged British talents like your Ryan Mcdonalds and your Liam Sandersons. This IMO would be a better system for British speedway but I suppose it's easier said that done. Sorry, not that website I mean the Great British speedway website This one http://www.speedwaygb.co/homepage Points limits are not what is dissuading the 'top' riders from the EL - its their cost, pure and simple. (although I agree a gradual points increase must be considered over the longer term. At the moment, they simply cannot be afforded. Promoters will/can not risk speculating on big expensive signings if they cannot guarantee sufficient through the gate or costs covered by sponsorship and that ain't about to happen in a fragile economy!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 God damn Stupid website Are you using a smart phone?If so it may be as simple as turning off and turning back on. Works for me when it happens as you describe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 KK & Holder still included as rode in 2013 But they were not included in the final averages, so don't count. The 'Final averages', I believe, subject to the standard BSPA/SCB obfuscation rules, are explained here (my emphasis); 16.2.5 At the end of each Season the BSPA will produce a Listing of all Riders who have competed in British Speedway during that season and following approval and/or amendment at the BSPA AGM’s these MA’s (i.e. excluding Bonus Points but including other allowances) will be the Riders MA for the start of the following Season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Are you using a smart phone? If so it may be as simple as turning off and turning back on. Works for me when it happens as you describe. No I'm on my laptop. But my desktop, smartphone, kindle and my ipad don't work either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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