Phil The Ace Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Wolverton blew both his engines yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Wolverton blew both his engines yesterdayWho is Wolverton ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Wolverton blew both his engines yesterday I assume you mean Wolbert . When did he blow them ? In his first race he spent four laps looking for a way past a rookie American who has hardly scored a point at PL level . His next effort was equally as poor . He did stop in his third race after two laps , but was already a poor last in that one anyway . We're struggling badly as a team and need a number 1 to be providing points , not excuses why he cant . Maybe the time is soon approaching when we make either Kauko Nieminen or Magnus Karlsson an offer they can't refuse , whether we can afford it or not . Edited April 21, 2014 by Paulco 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw40 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Guessing predictive text for Wolbert. Can he afford another engine ? If not then we can't carry him any longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I assume you mean Wolbert . When did he blow them ? In his first race he spent four laps looking for a way past a rookie American who has hardly scored a point at PL level . His next effort was equally as poor . He did stop in his third race after two laps , but was already a poor last in that one anyway . We're struggling badly as a team and need a number 1 to be providing points , not excuses why he cant . Maybe the time is soon approaching when we make either Kauko Nieminen or Magnus Karlsson an offer they can't refuse , whether we can afford it or not . Whether we can afford it or not is the case because we can't carry on like this.. Glasgow have a reputation for giving riders a fair chance before making changes, which is all well and good, I hate to see riders dropped but we won't have any speedway at this rate, and will be lucky to see out the season if we don't start winning fast, at least at home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Whether we can afford it or not is the case because we can't carry on like this.. Glasgow have a reputation for giving riders a fair chance before making changes, which is all well and good, I hate to see riders dropped but we won't have any speedway at this rate, and will be lucky to see out the season if we don't start winning fast, at least at home. Its a baptism of fire at home right now though, having only had two home matches, both against Edinburgh who are IMO the best starting 7 I have seen since Swindon in the early 2000's. Peterborough next week don't look that far behind and I couldn't predict a home win, the only glimmer of hope is that we can get the better of their reserves and pick up the minor placings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 And how would they know that, is this part off the due diligence process now i can see the interview now Kevin we want you to be our No1 next season Oh ok Kevin have you any financial difficulties that mean your equipment isn't up to scratch and you will struggle to score points No It is not as if they would do a credit check on him to ride speedway Jeeeeeeeez I really despair at some off the post's on here. What a ridiculous post. Any promotion with half a brain will surely want to know what sort of preparations there riders will be making for the season so they have confidence that they are going to score points for there club. Maybe Glasgow were just that desperate for anyone after last years shambles they weren't really that fussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 We can't afford it and I for one don't want to see the begging bowl come out again. I think we have been loyal and putting our hands in our pockets enough's enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 We can't afford it and I for one don't want to see the begging bowl come out again. I think we have been loyal and putting our hands in our pockets enough's enough We might need to gamble though . As Dorothy says , another season like last year and the doors might shut anyway cause there will be hardly anyone there to watch . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Nobody is suggesting it is deliberate , Ok,i must have read that wrong....the possible suggestion that Kevin was doing what Gjedde done at Berwick.I guessed Gjedde deliberately lowered his average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 So Paulco just who is going to pay for the gamble ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Ok,i must have read that wrong....the possible suggestion that Kevin was doing what Gjedde done at Berwick.I guessed Gjedde deliberately lowered his average. That was the general consensus at the time . Nobody is suggesting Wolbert is indulging in anything like that , we're all just puzzled and disappointed at how such a good rider at PL level should be churning out such poor displays . So Paulco just who is going to pay for the gamble ?? There's always one . I dont know , the club i presume . But what happens if we dont do something ? defeat after defeat again and the support voting with their feet . Then what ? Answer me that Edited April 21, 2014 by Paulco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Yes there is always one you say you presume the club but how often has the fans have to bail them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Yes there is always one you say you presume the club but how often has the fans have to bail them out I agree , we've reached saturation level with asking for supporters help . I dont know , do we ask our new sponsors for help ? We have to do something . As it stands we're just as uncompetative as we were last season and can we afford to have another season like last year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw40 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 5 people have already told me since yesterday that they wont be back until we change the team. Also there is Liverpool v Man City next Sunday. People may just see that as a good enough excuse to stay away. The only time I have ever questioned not going is after we fiddled the averages at Edinburgh because I felt cheated after paying to watch. Even the most hardened fan is starting to question value for money after the last few years. There are so many things that need addressed. Surely to god there is someone out there who can help us out with the track. If Doc cant do it surely one of the other northern tracks has someone who's services would be available. Is that a financial decision too? We no doubt have invested in Wolbert with signing on fees etc. Will this make it tough to get rid of him if a big chunk of the budget was already spent on him ? That's where he needs to have top machinery. Surely a sign on fee should be used to make sure your equipment is sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 5 people have already told me since yesterday that they wont be back until we change the team. Also there is Liverpool v Man City next Sunday. People may just see that as a good enough excuse to stay away. The only time I have ever questioned not going is after we fiddled the averages at Edinburgh because I felt cheated after paying to watch. Even the most hardened fan is starting to question value for money after the last few years. There are so many things that need addressed. Surely to god there is someone out there who can help us out with the track. If Doc cant do it surely one of the other northern tracks has someone who's services would be available. Is that a financial decision too? We no doubt have invested in Wolbert with signing on fees etc. Will this make it tough to get rid of him if a big chunk of the budget was already spent on him ? That's where he needs to have top machinery. Surely a sign on fee should be used to make sure your equipment is sorted That's the thing , all we have is well meaning friends and supporters offering reasons and excuses why our number 1 isn't riding like a number 1 . That wont wash among the support as they suffer one inept display after another . There was a pretty decent crowd there yesterday , ok the weather was decent for a change and it was a derby against the smugs . But 35 points ( and a t/r inflated 35 points at that ) is unacceptable regardless the opposition . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 That's the thing , all we have is well meaning friends and supporters offering reasons and excuses why our number 1 isn't riding like a number 1 . That wont wash among the support as they suffer one inept display after another . There was a pretty decent crowd there yesterday , ok the weather was decent for a change and it was a derby against the smugs . But 35 points ( and a t/r inflated 35 points at that ) is unacceptable regardless the opposition . Can totally relate to what you are saying, been through the previous two seasons under similar circumstances at Sheffield. The simple fact is that id your not winning your home meetings on regular consistent basis then the crowd levels will drop. I and a hard core of supporters at Sheffield have all probably not missed a home meeting for the last two seasons, its been difficult and I guess became a habit, but the vast majority will and do vote with their feet if your losing on a regular basis. To have a number 1 who has not scored a point in four rides is unthinkable and frankly worrying, and the Promotion need to ask some questions of the rider and themselves as to the way forward. Sadly for Kevin Wolbert I think that the Promotion needs to act quickly and replace the chosen number 1 for this season. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Jonasson would be a interesting Number 1, An average of 9.48 in the PL so the side would need to be re-adjusted. Also has knowledge of the Scottish area as he was a regular for the Edinburgh Monarchs previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 5 people have already told me since yesterday that they wont be back until we change the team. Also there is Liverpool v Man City next Sunday. People may just see that as a good enough excuse to stay away. The only time I have ever questioned not going is after we fiddled the averages at Edinburgh because I felt cheated after paying to watch. Even the most hardened fan is starting to question value for money after the last few years. There are so many things that need addressed. Surely to god there is someone out there who can help us out with the track. If Doc cant do it surely one of the other northern tracks has someone who's services would be available. Is that a financial decision too? We no doubt have invested in Wolbert with signing on fees etc. Will this make it tough to get rid of him if a big chunk of the budget was already spent on him ? That's where he needs to have top machinery. Surely a sign on fee should be used to make sure your equipment is sorted Were those 5 people Monarchs fans? We've only had 2 home meetings and both against Edinburgh, how can you say your not coming back by Easter Sunday? As regards the track - thought it was decent just our misfiring guys need to learn to ride it, Berge and Rusty knew how. Reading some of the comments about lack of dirt makes me wonder if people want to go back to previous years when it was knee deep to unsettle the opposition where experienced riders could barely turn the bike, with crashes galore and every heat FTG. The issue is with the riders not the track IMO. Wonder what happened to Danny et al? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 He emigrated wish he was back at least he knew what he was doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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