Gp Qualifier Sat June 7th @ Berwick

[arthur cross]

while I don't know what went on regarding a rain -off,but I find it strange to arrange to Ride at Glasgow on what could be a potential rain -off date ( which has now happened)

Glasgow wanted to honour the end of James Grieves's career with a tribute meeting that could be boosted by a few of Berwick's GP-qualifier line-up, hence the scheduling of Grievesy's meeting this afternoon once the GP-qualifier was re-located from Austria.

 

But since then Glasgow have had a stack of rain-offs, making it harder to justify burning up another week in their fixture list just for a tribute meeting regardless of the lengthy and great service Grievesy's given to the Tigers ... remember they still haven't completed any leg of their KO Cup 1st-round tie with Rye House because both those meetings are re-arranged for what should've been next weekend's quarter-final against Newcastle.

 

Hence tomorrow's catching-up of a League Cup group meeting which has no impact on that competition's knockout stages but still needs getting out of the way with the bonus that it's being done before the counter-attraction of World Cup football during many of the longest-daylight evenings of the year.

 

It's not too big a logistical problem, just needing one Berwick representative to have a one-off registration for the night as team manager if Ian Rae and George Hepburn both now need to remain at Shielfield Park ... alternatively in these circumstances, some agreement might be struck for another club's manager to stand-in as the Bandits boss.

[screm]

Glasgow wanted to honour the end of James Grieves's career with a tribute meeting that could be boosted by a few of Berwick's GP-qualifier line-up, hence the scheduling of Grievesy's meeting this afternoon once the GP-qualifier was re-located from Austria.

 

But since then Glasgow have had a stack of rain-offs, making it harder to justify burning up another week in their fixture list just for a tribute meeting regardless of the lengthy and great service Grievesy's given to the Tigers ... remember they still haven't completed any leg of their KO Cup 1st-round tie with Rye House because both those meetings are re-arranged for what should've been next weekend's quarter-final against Newcastle.

 

Hence tomorrow's catching-up of a League Cup group meeting which has no impact on that competition's knockout stages but still needs getting out of the way with the bonus that it's being done before the counter-attraction of World Cup football during many of the longest-daylight evenings of the year.

 

It's not too big a logistical problem, just needing one Berwick representative to have a one-off registration for the night as team manager if Ian Rae and George Hepburn both now need to remain at Shielfield Park ... alternatively in these circumstances, some agreement might be struck for another club's manager to stand-in as the Bandits boss.

 

Alan Bridgett will stand in as Berwick team manager at Glasgow tomorrow night.

[racers and royals]

 

Can you expand on this post? It seems like someone just taking a bit of a hissy fit rather than there being any substance or fact.

Yes I certainly can -as you should know I was replying to this post

 

Aye, there's the rub. Berwick inherited the meeting (and the Supplementary Regs) from the Austrian place, and FIM didn't notice, and remove, the Sunday date.

 

The riders who were hoping to ride in the SEC qualifier at Monday must all now be at Berwick. Although the ones with meetings in Poland tomorrow will be there, as will Craig Cook and Matej Kus be at Newcastle, and a few others at Glasgow

Don`t believe the first part whatsoever-Berwick weren`t handed the meeting last week !!! it was weeks ago-therefore whoever was organising the meeting whether that be Berwick,ACU or BSPA should have sorted out the re-staging date long ago-and if they had it wouldn`t have appeared on the meeting regs or if wrong would have been corrected and re-issused.

Edited June 8, 2014 by racers and royals

[emilali]

Good luck with that - probably 50/50 as to whether you will even get a reply let alone a satisfactory resolution.

It was stated last night that refunds will be offered if you write to them.

[BBSC]

 

Alan Bridgett will stand in as Berwick team manager at Glasgow tomorrow night.

take it rosco not available

[screm]

take it rosco not available

 

Rossiter`s no where near good enough to manage Berwick, I`m sure he`d love to one day, but tomorrow will not be that day.

 

Keep trying Alun.

[Triple.H.]

When Berwick knew that they had been granted this meeting,,surely a letter to the council to request an alternative day ie Sunday in case of a rain off would have been a good idea. Meetings like these are good for the town especially bed & breakfasts, hotels, travelodge etc who all do good business through it, What kind of crowd we get tomorrow night will no doubt be determined by the weather, hopefully the slightly later time of starting 7-30pm will allow travelling fans some extra time so they can attend it.

Totally agree that if the local council had been contacted they would very likely have given permission for a sunday meeting in the unlikely event of a rainoff. After all not many FIM meetings do get rained off.

[Catch Me If You Can]

Totally agree that if the local council had been contacted they would very likely have given permission for a sunday meeting in the unlikely event of a rainoff. After all not many FIM meetings do get rained off.

I think you are wrong? There were (if my memory serves me right) breaches of the Sunday no go speedway by previous promoter(s) and am sure the council made it very clear there would be no speedway run on a Sunday at Berwick again! Abusing that would be at their peril?

[screm]

Totally agree that if the local council had been contacted they would very likely have given permission for a sunday meeting in the unlikely event of a rainoff. After all not many FIM meetings do get rained off.

 

Was Berwick Council ever contacted about having Sunday as a possible rain off day, I`m sure they were.

[Catch Me If You Can]

When Berwick knew that they had been granted this meeting,,surely a letter to the council to request an alternative day ie Sunday in case of a rain off would have been a good idea. Meetings like these are good for the town especially bed & breakfasts, hotels, travelodge etc who all do good business through it, What kind of crowd we get tomorrow night will no doubt be determined by the weather, hopefully the slightly later time of starting 7-30pm will allow travelling fans some extra time so they can attend it.

From what I understand you can forget Sunday speedway at Berwick following alleged abuses of rules in past. Berwick have midweek dates.

[mdmc82]

Maybe hosting it somewhere that has permission to have use of stadium on the restating date may be a good idea next year

[screm]

From what I understand you can forget Sunday speedway at Berwick following alleged abuses of rules in past. Berwick have midweek dates.

 

That might stop FIM meetings coming to Berwick in the future, which after seeing the FIM in action last night might be no bad thing.

[Triple.H.]

I dont know about the council in Berwick but councils are generally in a state of flux and no matter what misdemeanours may have happened in the past any council with little or no flexibility especially when the event is bringing money into local businesses and getting the town Publicity as a destination for short breaks etc would seem to me to be cutting off there nose to spite their face. As I said in my original post not many FIM meetings get postponed.

[sparkafag]

Yes I certainly can -as you should know I was replying to this post

 

Don`t believe the first part whatsoever-Berwick weren`t handed the meeting last week !!! it was weeks ago-therefore whoever was organising the meeting whether that be Berwick,ACU or BSPA should have sorted out the re-staging date long ago-and if they had it wouldn`t have appeared on the meeting regs or if wrong would have been corrected and re-issused.

 

I think that the poster you are quoting knows more about the situation than you. I don’t think that you have backed up your earlier post with either fact or substance, just your opinion. Thanks for taking the time to reply though.

 

[bigeddiechek]

I can understand the frustration of last night, but really there was nothing to be done with the weather we had.

Although I do agree that the FIM strung it out much longer than needed.

 

What I can't believe is folk saying that we shouldn't bother with this type of meeting.

 

For once I am totally and utterly lost for words!

 

[screm]

I can understand the frustration of last night, but really there was nothing to be done with the weather we had.

Although I do agree that the FIM strung it out much longer than needed.

 

What I can't believe is folk saying that we shouldn't bother with this type of meeting.

 

For once I am totally and utterly lost for words!

 

 

I agree, IMO the thing that got to people the most was the lack of a decision one way or the other, then the lack of information. I think the vast majority knew that racing was very unlikely from early on.

[bigeddiechek]

 

I agree, IMO the thing that got to people the most was the lack of a decision one way or the other, then the lack of information. I think the vast majority knew that racing was very unlikely from early on.

 

Completely agree, it was pretty obvious that there was going to be no chance of the meeting going ahead.

To me it seemed like the FIM were hell-bent on getting this on due to a lack of contingency planning.

 

Really I guess it is not fair to knock the sport when the dreaded rain gods decide to chuck everything at our tracks.

There was a monumental effort from the track staff last night, but the poor guys were always fighting a losing battle.

 

I doubt there is an answer other than the fantasy of all indoor tracks!!!

[Fromafar]

Completely agree, it was pretty obvious that there was going to be no chance of the meeting going ahead.

To me it seemed like the FIM were hell-bent on getting this on due to a lack of contingency planning.

Really I guess it is not fair to knock the sport when the dreaded rain gods decide to chuck everything at our tracks.

There was a monumental effort from the track staff last night, but the poor guys were always fighting a losing battle.

I doubt there is an answer other than the fantasy of all indoor tracks!!!

the contingency plan was in the Regs for meeting,they obviously need to refer to them in this situation.what it really was that they wanted to run at all cost irrespective of conditions and entertainment to paying public,disgraceful IMO.

[screm]

 

Completely agree, it was pretty obvious that there was going to be no chance of the meeting going ahead.

To me it seemed like the FIM were hell-bent on getting this on due to a lack of contingency planning.

 

Really I guess it is not fair to knock the sport when the dreaded rain gods decide to chuck everything at our tracks.

There was a monumental effort from the track staff last night, but the poor guys were always fighting a losing battle.

 

I doubt there is an answer other than the fantasy of all indoor tracks!!!

 

Biggest cheer of the night was after the track staff took the covers off, all that effort for nothing.

 

For those thinking of coming tomorrow, its been summer in Berwick today, with lots of warm sunshine, so the track should've dried out nicely. Tomorrows forecast is far more encouraging, chance of a shower or two in the afternoon but fine for morning and evening.

Well, despite the efforts of our marvellous track staff, and the incredible patience of every spectator, Saturday's show was washed out by weather.

 

After a great deal of discussion, various international phone calls and enquiries, the FIM Jury for the meeting pulled the plug on the night at 8.45pm, and ordered the riders (and invited spectators) to return on Monday night (9th) at 7.30pm.

 

This event is not a Berwick Bandits meeting (it is staged at Shielfield Park by the BSPA on behalf of the FIM) so readmission on Monday will only be by production of your rained-off ticket from Saturday, or cash payment at the turnstiles.

 

Tickets held from the previously-postponed match against Workington, for instance, will not be valid.

 

For those unable to attend, these tickets will be accepted at any further BSPA 'shared event' this season, or cash refunds can be claimed from the BSPA offices, for which full contact details will follow in our next Bulletin.

 

Thanks to Berwick Speedway for this newsletter, there`s bound to be fans who cant make tomorrow night, nor any BSPA shared event. Might be an idea for the BSPA to put something like this on their site so it reaches a wider audience as some people out there aren't lucky enough to receive newsletters from the club.

[crescent girl]

Was Berwick Council ever contacted about having Sunday as a possible rain off day, I`m sure they were.

Berwick have made several advances with Council planners in recent seasons, getting extra midweek allowances for Sky meeting last year and some backlogged fixtures running in midweek. But absolutely "never on a Sunday". I understand an approach was indeed made to a senior official last night for "very exceptional" permission to run today. They said no.

 

Totally agree that if the local council had been contacted they would very likely have given permission for a sunday meeting in the unlikely event of a rainoff. After all not many FIM meetings do get rained off.

You think? Planning restrictions at Berwick have always been severe, and after an abuse of the absolute Sunday embargo by a previous promoter, any repeat Sunday staging could very well result in the track being closed! You would want this?

Edited June 8, 2014 by crescent girl