screm Posted June 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Monday. But it won't be rained off. Not on a Sunday in Berwick. It would be Monday. But it will be on! As has already been posted a quite pathetic and irresponsible post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Would you care to back this post up with some facts?? or are you just rambling?.. I think Henry is referring to the fact that Berwick were appointed the meeting by the FIM-Berwick knew the regs were published with a rain-off date for tomorrow-Sunday.Maybe Berwick did inform the FIM that Sunday was impossible-if they didn`t they they are clearly at fault. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I think Henry is referring to the fact that Berwick were appointed the meeting by the FIM-Berwick knew the regs were published with a rain-off date for tomorrow-Sunday.Maybe Berwick did inform the FIM that Sunday was impossible-if they didn`t they they are clearly at fault. One things for sure, giving the other meetings going on this Monday, the line up that will be at Berwick could be very different to the one that was there tonight. Announced at the track that re-admission tickets could be used at any BSPA shared event, so I could use them at Wolverhampton a week Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 It's hard to believe that it can be reduce to a shambles like tonight .We all know that the weather is a major factor in the sport and if F.I.M. Can't get it right what chance have we got.Decision should have been make at Official Start.OFF or ON.end of story.People pay money to see Event start when they are advertised,they may have other arrangements based on that fact.Would they get their money back if the Meeting started 2hours late and they had to leave early.Farcical. Speaking of arrangements, Richard Lawson and Lewis Bridger are due to be riding for Lakeside at Belle Vue on Monday. Although both are reserves, can they withdraw and what might be the implications if they do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Speaking of arrangements, Richard Lawson and Lewis Bridger are due to be riding for Lakeside at Belle Vue on Monday. Although both are reserves, can they withdraw and what might be the implications if they do? Doesn't qualifiers to championships and other similar official FIM-meetings have precedence over league meetings? Possible not for reserves though? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) So the riders practiced this afternoon. The meeting is now Monday. Riders cannot ride in another meeting once they have practiced. So all those who practiced today are, according to the rules, not riding in Poland tomorrow! Are you sure that if the meeting on any particular day is called off and set for a new day (even if it's just 24 or 48 hours later), that a practice session for what's turned out to be that day's non-event remains an official way of trapping its riders from any other action until the new date ? !! As far as I'm aware, anything connected with today is deemed not to have happened once the meeting itself is called off so that everyone makes a fresh start in terms of practice, scrutineering, etc on the new day. Where the rule you're thinking of has come into play is when practice is on the afternoon of one day with the meeting itself on the next afternoon or evening ... hence any rider involved in Cardiff's Friday afternoon-practice can't then nip off to ride in that evening's Premier League Pairs at Somerset. Meanwhile, Berwick have NEVER had noise-permission from their local council to race speedway bikes around Shielfield Park on a Sunday yet both tomorrow and Monday appear as rain-off dates in the FIM supplementary regulations for this meeting !! Berwick only have a degree of flexibility with the local council for weeknight meetings to allow for live television coverage or emergency catching-up of Bandits wash-outs ... however, within that limited flexibility, the council have always been helpful when necessary in recent years. Certainly the supplementary-regs for Berwick's FIM-debut with their 2012 GP-qualifier made it clear the rain-off jumped straight to Monday if that Saturday was abandoned ... I don't know whether it was the same case for their round of the 2013 World Under-21 series or why tomorrow's managed to appear in tonight's supplementary-regs. Thankfully, with Monday already being German-track Abensberg's traditional Bank Holiday date for an FIM-meeting which this year is another of these GP-quailfiers, there's only the Belle Vue v Lakeside meeting in the Elite League rather than a fuller schedule now being affected by Monday's action at Berwick where only Craig Cook in the main field, plus both reserves Richard Lawson and Lewis Bridger were expecting to be at Belle Vue instead ... also, there's a meaningless catch-up of a League Cup group meeting at Glasgow (Theo Pijper) against Berwick (Matej Kus). Edited June 7, 2014 by arthur cross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Speaking of arrangements, Richard Lawson and Lewis Bridger are due to be riding for Lakeside at Belle Vue on Monday. Although both are reserves, can they withdraw and what might be the implications if they do? Cook due to ride at Belle Vue Monday, Kus due to ride at Glasgow Monday, Anderson, Pawlicki, Janowski, Suchanek due to be at Debrecen on Monday, are they going to be at Berwick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 So because Berwick dont have permission to run tomorrow Anderson, Pawlicki, Janowski and Suchanek will miss out on the SEC? This could be fun! Hans isn't exactly know for keeping quiet and diplomacy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) Draw 10 names and move on is the best result. Edited June 7, 2014 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 And don't forget, this meeting wasn't meant to be at Berwick in the first place ... it was Austria's round of the GP-qualifiers when the 2014 FIM-calendar was published last autumn which St Johann Im Pongau handed back to the FIM for re-allocation a couple of months ago !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Right out of a clear blue sky...Ooops! When are the FIM gonna stop handing these big meetings to clubs in the rain sodden North? Keep these meetings down South where the climate much more favourable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Ooops! When are the FIM gonna stop handing these big meetings to clubs in the rain sodden North? Keep these meetings down South where the climate much more favourable. And how long did it take to run that Under-21 World Cup meeting at Rye House a couple of years ago, admittedly due to dustbowl conditions rather than any need for snorkels and flippers ? !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Ooops! When are the FIM gonna stop handing these big meetings to clubs in the rain sodden North? Keep these meetings down South where the climate much more favourable. Put your fishing rod away 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoobie Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Ooops! When are the FIM gonna stop handing these big meetings to clubs in the rain sodden North? Keep these meetings down South where the climate much more favourable. I would rather watch paint dry than watch a speedway meeting on the dust at rye house! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 And how long did it take to run that Under-21 World Cup meeting at Rye House a couple of years ago, admittedly due to dustbowl conditions rather than any need for snorkels and flippers ? !!There are other tracks in the South apart from Rye HouseI would rather watch paint dry than watch a speedway meeting on the dust at rye house! One has a choice whether to attend or not. Nobody is forcing you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eide67 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 What will be the re-staging date when it is rained off on Monday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 What a load of nonsense. This has nothing to do with the PZM or Polish teams. It's Berwick that are the problem... What utter garbage. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Really? So berwick have no issues running a meeting on a sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Antebellum Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 And don't forget, this meeting wasn't meant to be at Berwick in the first place ... it was Austria's round of the GP-qualifiers when the 2014 FIM-calendar was published last autumn which St Johann Im Pongau handed back to the FIM for re-allocation a couple of months ago !! Aye, there's the rub. Berwick inherited the meeting (and the Supplementary Regs) from the Austrian place, and FIM didn't notice, and remove, the Sunday date. The riders who were hoping to ride in the SEC qualifier at Monday must all now be at Berwick. Although the ones with meetings in Poland tomorrow will be there, as will Craig Cook and Matej Kus be at Newcastle, and a few others at Glasgow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Rory & Robbo on stand by to cover Bridger & Lawson Monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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