Redcar V Newcastle (lc) Thursday 10th April

[HadrianDog]

 

Got it in one (I know he wont ride but I'd love it)

 

That's why I want him, do you know weather he is still closely linked with the club or not?

No knowledge on that topic, but given the clubs' recent loyalty to riders, I find it unlikely we would make the changes needed to accommodate him just yet.

[DIAMONDS]

How about replacing Schramm with someone like Stefan Nielsen?

 

That's a possibility but I don't think Nielsen is that good round Brough

 

Edit: Josef Franc? on a reduced average

Edited April 10, 2014 by DIAMONDS

[adz_mft]

That's a possibility but I don't think Nielsen is that good round Brough

 

Edit: Josef Franc? on a reduced average

Schramm isn't exactly pulling up trees around there this year lol.

[DIAMONDS]

Schramm isn't exactly pulling up trees around there this year lol.

 

True But at least he gives 110% effort

[Boothers]

Lawson was imperious

That's a cracking word, does it beat my sublime????

[Chewbacca]

Got to keep Rose. I've seen enough to suggest he has the talent and bravery, just needs experience, which he won't get if he's not riding. I'll bet he puts 1.5 on his average by year end.

 

The problem is Lindgren's form. It will come back, it's just a matter of how long the management will wait.

[Halifaxtiger]

Very good meeting in front of big crowd

 

Lawson was indeed imperious, Summers excellent and Graversen equally so. The rider who impressed me most, though, was Skidmore.

 

Newcastle were disappointing. Schramm and Robson put in their usual 100% but Rosen, who I thought would be a top rider this season, was poor.

 

The best bit was STMP getting back to its best . It was a little slick but that didn't stop there being some very entertaining racing and after stating that you couldn't pass on the outside Lawson promptly did so by taking all three others in one swoop. Rammed down my throat the comments might have been, but the taste wasn't a bad one.

 

All in all a good night, despite my old mate Rolypolygoly having a pop at me every five minutes. Good to see you in the pink, Kenneth.

Edited April 11, 2014 by Halifaxtiger

[NJC71]

 

I'd love to see Jacob Thorsell come in but I don't want any of the other main riders to leave (hard choice) and I think we need to do something with the reserves but I don't know what or who

 

What I think we need to change on the form so far this season

 

1. Jacob Thorsell 7.68

2. Lewis Kerr 5.94

3. Anton Rosen 7.00

4. Christian Henry 7.21/Ludvig Lindgren 7.28

5. Stuart Robson 7.20

6. Danny Halsey?/Ben Morley?(3.95 left)(I really can't think of anybody else.)

7. Chris Schramm 3.52

 

I feel terrible making this already but I don't think it's quite time for Lewis Rose in the PL and we are going to need to sacrifice one of our main body riders for a more reliable, bigger point scoring number one. I hope I am wrong and the current team suddenly clicks and hits form but if we want a successful season I'm afraid we need to make changes.

 

Ebit: Ben Wilson???

Lewis Rose is doing very well and is absolutely not the problem. The problem is that we aren't winning heats (only three last night). Changing three pointers is not going to make any difference to that.

 

Strange post.

[StevePark]

Very good meeting in front of big crowd

 

Lawson was indeed imperious, Summers excellent and Graversen equally so. The rider who impressed me most, though, was Skidmore.

 

Newcastle were disappointing. Schramm and Robson put in their usual 100% but Rosen, who I thought would be a top rider this season, was poor.

 

The best bit was STMP getting back to its best . It was a little slick but that didn't stop there being some very entertaining racing and after stating that you couldn't pass on the outside Lawson promptly did so by taking all three others in one swoop. Rammed down my throat the comments might have been, but the taste wasn't a bad one.

 

All in all a good night, despite my old mate Rolypolygoly having a pop at me every five minutes. Good to see you in the pink, Kenneth.

 

You were clearly watching a different meeting to me then. 2 genuine overtakes all night.

 

For those wanting rid of Lewis Rose - he is getting his average most meetings so far. That is all you can ask of the kid.

 

We lack a 'top end' 'big hitter' that is true, but when it comes down to it, who do you replace and who with - and, most importantly, can we afford one?

[rolypolygoly]

Very good meeting in front of big crowd

 

Lawson was indeed imperious, Summers excellent and Graversen equally so. The rider who impressed me most, though, was Skidmore.

 

Newcastle were disappointing. Schramm and Robson put in their usual 100% but Rosen, who I thought would be a top rider this season, was poor.

 

The best bit was STMP getting back to its best . It was a little slick but that didn't stop there being some very entertaining racing and after stating that you couldn't pass on the outside Lawson promptly did so by taking all three others in one swoop. Rammed down my throat the comments might have been, but the taste wasn't a bad one.

 

All in all a good night, despite my old mate Rolypolygoly having a pop at me every five minutes. Good to see you in the pink, Kenneth.

I will have to stop wearing pink, especially talking to Yorkie folk wearing shorts, It was nice to see, and pop you again, glad you enjoyed the meeting, but not as much as a born and bred Teessider hammering the Geordies

[RedcarRacer]

 

You were clearly watching a different meeting to me then. 2 genuine overtakes all night.

 

For those wanting rid of Lewis Rose - he is getting his average most meetings so far. That is all you can ask of the kid.

 

We lack a 'top end' 'big hitter' that is true, but when it comes down to it, who do you replace and who with - and, most importantly, can we afford one?

 

There wasnt much overtaking as the riders capable (the Bears) of doing it were already at the front, not the Bears fault there was no opposition for them.

Edited April 11, 2014 by RedcarRacer

[northyorksbear]

 

You were clearly watching a different meeting to me then. 2 genuine overtakes all night.

 

For those wanting rid of Lewis Rose - he is getting his average most meetings so far. That is all you can ask of the kid.

 

We lack a 'top end' 'big hitter' that is true, but when it comes down to it, who do you replace and who with - and, most importantly, can we afford one?

 

I must have been watching a different meeting aswell

 

Ht 3 Skiddy inside Kerr coming off bend 2 and then up inside

Ht 4 Summers chased and passed Rosen

Ht 7 Graversen chased and passed Kerr

Ht 9 Schramm chased and passed Wilko

Ht 10 Lawson 3rd going into bends 3 & 4 on 1st lap, leading coming down home straight

Ht 13 Summers round Rosen on bends 3 & 4

There were numerous other instances of riders "overtaking" on first two bends having missed the gate

 

Which were the two "genuine" overtakes and why not the others?

 

 

I do agree about Rose he scored more than you would expect from a rookie number 7 and looked on the pace, did remind me of Kerr when he came to STMP at beginning of last season, although perhaps not as polished and quick. Big problem for Diamonds last night was that bottom three scorers on both sides Newcastle won 9-8, yet Redcar won by 20!! Serious lack of heat winners and in bottom three were nos 1 & 5, I'm afraid it was Dolph who rode at 1 only beating Bears riders who fell (although ahead at the time).

[mrmiddlesbrough]

2 passes all night ? The usuall jawdee sour grapes, yawn.

 

What was it lindgren said on the news on Monday "the tracks the same for both teams" ?

[DIAMONDS]

Everyone, I didn't necessarily mean get rid of Rose, But I think one of the reserves needs to be swapped with someone who is capable of scoring big points and beating the opposition heatleaders (even away.) Someone like a Steve Worrall or a Kalle Katajisto or even a Ryan Douglas and if I draw your attention to my earlier post I said One of the reserves need to be changed but I don't know who or what.

 

(Quoted from post 32) I think we need to do something with the reserves but I don't know what or who

 

In the same post I have excuded Rose from the team as at the moment I would say Schramm and Rose are about equal in level and it wouldn't matter who would stay or go. The only reason I kept Schramm in this team is because of his huge effort, his experience and his recent form.

 

I would love to see rose stay and develop like Kerr did last season and I hope he does it but in some important races he is left standing still and is completely of the pace. I suppose if he gets his average that is all you can ask for really and thinking about it now I would love him to stay at the club and I honestly think if anyone will go realistically it will be Schrammy. I hope Lewis Rose and Chris Schramm will hit form and I wish them and every other rider in the world good luck for the rest of the season.

[NJC71]

Everyone, I didn't necessarily mean get rid of Rose, But I think one of the reserves needs to be swapped with someone who is capable of scoring big points and beating the opposition heatleaders (even away.) Someone like a Steve Worrall or a Kalle Katajisto or even a Ryan Douglas and if I draw your attention to my earlier post I said One of the reserves need to be changed but I don't know who or what.

 

(Quoted from post 32) I think we need to do something with the reserves but I don't know what or who

 

In the same post I have excuded Rose from the team as at the moment I would say Schramm and Rose are about equal in level and it wouldn't matter who would stay or go. The only reason I kept Schramm in this team is because of his huge effort, his experience and his recent form.

 

I would love to see rose stay and develop like Kerr did last season and I hope he does it but in some important races he is left standing still and is completely of the pace. I suppose if he gets his average that is all you can ask for really and thinking about it now I would love him to stay at the club and I honestly think if anyone will go realistically it will be Schrammy. I hope Lewis Rose and Chris Schramm will hit form and I wish them and every other rider in the world good luck for the rest of the season.

Lewis has been ON the pace from the word go this season so far. His starting has been good, can't think of many races where he has been left standing still as you put it. He is doing more than fine, there is no way his place would be under threat. Don't get your point on him at all.

 

Again the glaring problem with Newcastle is not at reserve. We have a number 1 and number 5 (not fair to single out Lindgren as Rosen has been just as poor), who are, at the moment, out of their depth. Hopefully that will change and they will turn it around but if the poor form continues into the league matches that's the only place where changes would make any difference.

 

Replacing Lewis with another 3 pointer, or a 4 or 5 pointer for that matter, would be absurd and won't happen.

[DIAMONDS]

Lewis has been ON the pace from the word go this season so far. His starting has been good, can't think of many races where he has been left standing still as you put it. He is doing more than fine, there is no way his place would be under threat. Don't get your point on him at all.

 

Again the glaring problem with Newcastle is not at reserve. We have a number 1 and number 5 (not fair to single out Lindgren as Rosen has been just as poor), who are, at the moment, out of their depth. Hopefully that will change and they will turn it around but if the poor form continues into the league matches that's the only place where changes would make any difference.

 

Replacing Lewis with another 3 pointer, or a 4 or 5 pointer for that matter, would be absurd and won't happen.

 

If you read what I put I said it could be either reserve not just Lewis. Just to back up my point against Somerset we only got 7 points from out reserves but Somerset got 16+3. That's huge to the final result. My thought was to get a bigger point scoring reserve in to take more pressure of the likes of Robbo and Henry. Also I do agree that Lindgren and Rosen have struggled so far this season but I hope they will come good .

[rolypolygoly]

I blame Alan Pardew, for the loss of form by the diamonds, he is the only one in Tyne and Wear who can use his head at the moment

[StevePark]

 

I must have been watching a different meeting aswell

 

Ht 3 Skiddy inside Kerr coming off bend 2 and then up inside

Ht 4 Summers chased and passed Rosen

Ht 7 Graversen chased and passed Kerr

Ht 9 Schramm chased and passed Wilko

Ht 10 Lawson 3rd going into bends 3 & 4 on 1st lap, leading coming down home straight

Ht 13 Summers round Rosen on bends 3 & 4

There were numerous other instances of riders "overtaking" on first two bends having missed the gate

 

Which were the two "genuine" overtakes and why not the others?

 

 

I do agree about Rose he scored more than you would expect from a rookie number 7 and looked on the pace, did remind me of Kerr when he came to STMP at beginning of last season, although perhaps not as polished and quick. Big problem for Diamonds last night was that bottom three scorers on both sides Newcastle won 9-8, yet Redcar won by 20!! Serious lack of heat winners and in bottom three were nos 1 & 5, I'm afraid it was Dolph who rode at 1 only beating Bears riders who fell (although ahead at the time).

 

 

2 passes all night ? The usuall jawdee sour grapes, yawn.

 

What was it lindgren said on the news on Monday "the tracks the same for both teams" ?

 

 

 

There wasnt much overtaking as the riders capable (the Bears) of doing it were already at the front, not the Bears fault there was no opposition for them.

 

3 bites and counting......

[northyorksbear]

 

 

 

 

 

3 bites and counting......

If you classify biting as responding to a totally inaccurate post which gives a false impression of the evening - guilty as charged. I didn't have you down as a poster who played silly games such as that

[StevePark]

If you classify biting as responding to a totally inaccurate post which gives a false impression of the evening - guilty as charged. I didn't have you down as a poster who played silly games such as that

 

I Got bored!

 

To be honest, though, I thought most overtakes were down to riders making mistakes (therefore not what I would call genuine overtakes).

 

I also (in my opinion) thought the couple of times Anton was passed, he was 'bullied' by the opposition, but, I must stress, not in a bad way, but in a good clean racing way, which I didn't see coming for this season.

 

It is still early in the season, but the Diamonds have to sort themselves out, otherwise we might be in for a long 'mid-table' season.