PHILIPRISING Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) LET'S hope whatever camp you are in good performances from KK will help the attendance at Gorzow. I wouldn't pretend to be an expert on Polish speedway but have been going there since 1970 and, unlike Britian for example, attendances for meetings there in the latter SGP era have depended very much on the likelihood of a Polish winner ... which is why Gollob was such a huge drawcard. Just my opinion... British fans have always been more cosmopolitan, often supporting riders of whatever nationality. Not quite like that in Poland or even Denmark. A SWC Final in the Uk would probably attract a similar attendance with or without home representation but can you imagine that happening in Poland? Edited April 28, 2014 by PHILIPRISING 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 I was not able to watch this meeting live on a stream just watched it on youtube now ,pretty good meeting as for low attendance it really is a combination of factors no Gollob,weather,spat between BSI and SportOne etc. I also tend to think that attendance at the other GP is Poland will be much better Pawel, I'm sure you know, but we speedway starved fans in the USA and Canada are able to watch live on the official GP site. It is apparently blocked in countries where it is broadcast, but we benefit here for once. Perfect HD and just like watching on TV. Since my monitor is 24" that's fine for me. All the best. Alan. http://speedwaygp.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 THIS is just one person's (albeit one involved in the organisation last weekend) opinion for the poor attendance, alongside the SGP/SEC spat that is being blamed on BSI by OneSport whenever possible. Silly really because at the end of the day the more successful EVERY speedway meeting is, whether at domestic or international level, the more the sport will ultimately prosper. Anyway, here goes... 1) downpours on Saturday afternoon would have stopped some travelling fans who had not already purchased tickets2) Big basketball match in the City with BYDGOSZCZ going for the bronze medal (even the mayor went to the basketball and turned up for the prize giving... can see where his priorities are3) no Gollob4) recession seems to be hitting in Poland and understand Bydgoszcz has a high unemployment rate5) stadium facilities and viewing is so poor now compared to Gorzow and Torun6) SWC in Bydgoszcz this year too7) Bydgoszcz are in the second division and with no speedway GP riders there was no local support. They had 1500 fans for their opening league match Make of that what you will but in my view each is a valid point which when put together do at least go some way (though not all) to explaining why Saturday's attendance was so poor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawel115 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 There is a vote about low attendance at this GP on sportowe fakty so fans can vote what was the reason for it as of now 23% say lack of Gollob,50% spat between BSI and SportsOne ,and 27% other reason(might be high ticket prices and that was mentioned in another article) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) Silly really because at the end of the day the more successful EVERY speedway meeting is, whether at domestic or international level, the more the sport will ultimately prosper. What i have been saying on here about the trouble with the SEC.......and not a view seemingly held by either the FIm or BSI who want to try and downgrade the SEC to the more or less, non event it was before One Sport came on the scene Edited April 28, 2014 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 What i have been saying on here about the trouble with the SEC.......and not a view seemingly held by either the FIm or BSI who want to try and downgrade the SEC to the more or less, non event it was before One Sport came on the scene HOW many more times ... the SEC is a matter for the FIM. It is their property. And it was the FIM itself not BSI that issued the edict about riders not competing in both. BSI's complaint, which even to their most ardent critic might seem fair, is that both the SGP and SEC should compete on a level playing field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 HOW many more times ... the SEC is a matter for the FIM. It is their property. And it was the FIM itself not BSI that issued the edict about riders not competing in both. BSI's complaint, which even to their most ardent critic might seem fair, is that both the SGP and SEC should compete on a level playing field. I thought Bellamy said in a recent interview he thought the SEC should be a junior event.Imo that means he wants it downgraded or how do you see that?It doesn't seem to me that he agrees with the statement you put on here that "the more successful EVERY speedway meeting is...." . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 HOW many more times ... the SEC is a matter for the FIM. It is their property. And it was the FIM itself not BSI that issued the edict about riders not competing in both. BSI's complaint, which even to their most ardent critic might seem fair, is that both the SGP and SEC should compete on a level playing field. You and your friends at BSI can keep telling yourself that, while most of us others can see that BSI are the ones that have been pulling the strings behind the scenes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 I thought Bellamy said in a recent interview he thought the SEC should be a junior event.Imo that means he wants it downgraded or how do you see that?It doesn't seem to me that he agrees with the statement you put on here that "the more successful EVERY speedway meeting is...." . SURELY a European Championship should always play second fiddle (junior event) to a World Championship? You and your friends at BSI can keep telling yourself that, while most of us others can see that BSI are the ones that have been pulling the strings behind the scenes. ONE word answer: WRONG! Believe what you like if it makes you feel better but the strings lay in the domain of the FIM and it is they who have doing the pulling. Incidentally, what makes you think that you speak for "most of us" or are you just limiting that to those who are anti-BSI on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Reading this thread it is apparent that Philip Rising is to blame for the many non attendees last Saturday. There is a vote about low attendance at this GP on sportowe fakty so fans can vote what was the reason for it as of now 23% say lack of Gollob,50% spat between BSI and SportsOne ,and 27% other reason(might be high ticket prices and that was mentioned in another article) I think the fact this poll is on Sportowefakty says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 SURELY a European Championship should always play second fiddle (junior event) to a World Championship? ONE word answer: WRONG! Believe what you like if it makes you feel better but the strings lay in the domain of the FIM and it is they who have doing the pulling. Incidentally, what makes you think that you speak for "most of us" or are you just limiting that to those who are anti-BSI on here? What crap, I hope Paul Bellamy is paying you well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 What crap, I hope Paul Bellamy is paying you well. There must be another forum somewhere where you can inflict your idiotic and immature opinions on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) There must be another forum somewhere where you can inflict your idiotic and immature opinions on. "I was looking for some action but all I found were cigrattes and alcohol" Noel Gallagher Edited April 28, 2014 by Liam Gallagher Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 "I was looking for some action but all I found were cigrattes and alcohol" Noel Gallagher Your an idiot on every thread you appear on. Screm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) Your an idiot on every thread you appear on. Screm Hilarious Back to the topic, hopefully the BSI go bankrupt in the near future and give British speedway Friday and Saturday nights back. Edited April 28, 2014 by Liam Gallagher Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 SURELY a European Championship should always play second fiddle (junior event) to a World Championship? I think it always will Phil,which is why i really don't understand all the fuss.It has been given a big boost and in doing that has helped boost speedway a little bit.But it doesn't have the title of world champ and so will never have that status and so shouldn't have to pay the same as the top competition.Really the only way the fuss can be understood is that BSI are peeved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawel115 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Sportowe Fakty is the most popular polish speedway site hence the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 BSI actually pay millions to the FIM for the World Championship. What do OneSport pay for the SEC rights? But that is a separate issue. Their concern is the difference in inscription fees (20,000 as against 1,500) for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampshire3321 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 The silly thing is, the Euorpean championships could be the SGP qualifyers and a feeder for the GP's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 The silly thing is, the Euorpean championships could be the SGP qualifyers and a feeder for the GP's? WHICH is exactly what the FIM hierarchy as opposed to their FIM Europe cousins wanted... Hilarious Back to the topic, hopefully the BSI go bankrupt in the near future and give British speedway Friday and Saturday nights back. OR you could hope that Polish speedway goes bust and all the riders flock back to Britain. Neither is a good idea and nether will happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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