Steve Shovlar Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Cracking meeting. Well done KK glad you gotr your first GP win. Should have been in NZ but made up for it tonight. Thanks god that super bore Hampel didn't win. Most boring rider in the series? Bad luck to Darcy who got his season underway with a great score. But for the injury he is carrying he might have won the thing tonight. Glad to see Holder coming back towards his best. Still not fast enough but the fight is there. As for the Brits god help us. Woffinden looks as bad as Harris. Surrendered his crown already IMO. Little fight and slow. Great GP, loads of great racing and a cracking final. Shame about the crowd but take one GP away from Poland is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 That was the best GP I think I can remember for many many years, won't see a better one all year and there was more action in every single race than there will be in the whole of the dreadful British GP (and several others) if its anywhere near as dire as last year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Not a bad meeting but no way a classic but the racing improved as it went on and some very good hard passes along with a few spills where thankfully all walked back to the pits. KK is on fire at the moment and could be doing what Tai did last season, but still have a feeling it's too early and a few low scores are surely around the corner while Darcy is as expected full throttle all the way and is either unstoppable or on the floor while Nicki was the opposite with a poor showing and lacked power just like Tai who will turn things around and is only 12 points behind second place !! It looks to be an interesting season ahead and still think its going to be between Jarek and Darcy for the title while Batch and Bomber look out of their depth and no replacements for Tomasz and Emil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Can't believe that the 'company' line of the weather was to blame for the low attendance filtered down to the Eurosport commentators. I thought the programme was over and was in another room but i heard that statement as i was returning. Gee so we take it that speedway supporters are wimps and cower indoors at the sight of rain? I've had lots of praise for Scott Nicholls and Andy Jaye they've been great, i don't lay any blame on them but they really did end up acting as a biased mouthpiece. I gonna move to North Korea for a superior semblance of see no evil, hear no evil etc. They both know what the real issue is, indeed they even began to talk about it at the last GP before quickly silencing themselves and then trying to cover it up. Eurosport commentators can hardly come out and say the problems are due to One Sport etc when they are partners with One Sport on another event! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) It's not even One Sport, There's a hatred from Polish fans towards the GP series. Riders earn most of their money from polish fans who pay lots of money to attend meetings but these riders ride on the Saturday before riding for a pittance and then don't turn up for their main employers on the Sunday for the Polish league. The BSI take up Friday's and Saturday's and then give the polish clubs injured riders on the Sunday. Edited April 27, 2014 by Liam Gallagher Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowandblack Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Well Poland's a big country and the speedway venues are spread out over a big area. I wouldn't have travelled more than 50 miles if the weather was threatening the meeting, which it obviously was if they were taking dirt off the track prior to the start, no doubt a lot of Poles would feel the same. I'm not too bothered about the size of the crowd, more concerned with seeing decent racing, so for me it was a decent evenings entertainment. As for the presenters, not often you hear commentators of any sport knocking attendances, doesn't help in terms of promoting the sport. Cheers for the racecard again Paul, really enhances my enjoyment of the meeting being able to fill in a 'programme', interesting to be able to keep a points tally for each gate, something I've never done while at a meeting. Gate 1 43pts Gate 2 40pts Gate 3 27pts Gate 4 28pts. More wins off Gate 2 though. Does that constitute anorakistical behaviour on my part? I did that, made it seem more like I was there! Thanks Manchesterpaul for the racecards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Cracking meeting. Well done KK glad you gotr your first GP win. Should have been in NZ but made up for it tonight.Thanks god that super bore Hampel didn't win. Most boring rider in the series?Bad luck to Darcy who got his season underway with a great score. But for the injury he is carrying he might have won the thing tonight. Glad to see Holder coming back towards his best. Still not fast enough but the fight is there.As for the Brits god help us. Woffinden looks as bad as Harris. Surrendered his crown already IMO. Little fight and slow.Great GP, loads of great racing and a cracking final. Shame about the crowd but take one GP away from Poland is the answer.yeah it was the injury that stopped Darcy winnin! Jeez man get a grip! Injury didn't stop him at all he was beaten fair and square by a better rider on the night. I still think Ward can be top 3 this season as long as he rides sensibly. A few times last night he looked close to coming off. Why the dig at Tai? He has got fight! Rember his injuries last year yet still won the title? The whole speedway community knows something is wrong yet you can't help yourself having a dig. Hampel is a great rider he can mix it but yes does most of his winning from the gate just like Hancock yet Greg still completely out rode Darcy to re overtake him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 FURROW Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 YOU'RE a tough man to please...He is a she and she has always had her knife out for the GPS she is someone who will be critical about every GP never attend and slag off IMG/BSI so I wouldn't take one bit of notice of what she quotes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Another very good GP which picked up well after a slow start. I thought KK deserved his win, best rider on show. Shame about the Brits who looked like they were on lawn mowers compared to the rest and Woffy,s gating has totally deserted him. Cannot believe the crowd or lack of it, it was terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 He is a she and she has always had her knife out for the GPS she is someone who will be critical about every GP never attend and slag off IMG/BSI so I wouldn't take one bit of notice of what she quotes Not that you're bitter, or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 YOU'RE a tough man to please... UT OH! Suggest you get hold of some top quality body armour and head guard Philip after referring to Mother T as a "tough man...!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) They both know what the real issue is, indeed they even began to talk about it at the last GP before quickly silencing themselves and then trying to cover it up. Eurosport commentators can hardly come out and say the problems are due to One Sport etc when they are partners with One Sport on another event! Can't believe that the 'company' line of the weather was to blame for the low attendance filtered down to the Eurosport commentators. I thought the programme was over and was in another room but i heard that statement as i was returning. Gee so we take it that speedway supporters are wimps and cower indoors at the sight of rain? I've had lots of praise for Scott Nicholls and Andy Jaye they've been great, i don't lay any blame on them but they really did end up acting as a biased mouthpiece. I gonna move to North Korea for a superior semblance of see no evil, hear no evil etc. But it seems the other guys don't get the same amount of slack here. Kel and Nige getting stick last night because they did not reveal the real reason the crowd was non existent. I liked both commentary teams and they both did an excellent job. Andy is the newcomer of course but he is getting better as he goes along. Kel and Scott have a huge amount of speedway knowledge and are both interesting to listen to. Same goes for Nigel Pearson as he too has a lot of speedway knowledge and enthusiasm from the point of view of being a long time fan same as many of us. People saying how Scott and Andy were great because they did not shout and scream conveniently overlooking that Scott and Andy are not commentating on the racing so it would be rather strange if they were shouting and screaming when just chatting about the event during the breaks. Nige and Kel do a great job and get excited the same way speedway fans do. They do the same as Andy and Scott before the racing starts then go into shouty mode when the race is on which during good races adds to the excitement. I feel sorry for all 4 of the lads regarding the spat between One Sport and BSI. What are they supposed to do as the people having the arguments indirectly 'pay' them. It's not up to them to highlight the arguments between these two factions. Like the fans they are stuck in the middle but unlike the fans they can't rant and rave on a forum. Who is to blame depends on who you dislike the most and agendas are thick and fast here but those guys don't deserve flak as how many here would publicly slag of those who directly or indirectly pay their wages. Lot of big talkers here but I would imagine that figure is slightly west of zero. Great GP all the same and congrats to a worthy winner and some great competitors for providing some fantastic entertainment. Pity about the Brits but at least one of them will improve Edited April 27, 2014 by pandorum 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejigger Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 What a great and enjoyable meeting. Thank goodness we had best commentators in Pearson and Tatum on duty again. The jokers at the NZ Grand Prix were terrible. Not a single moan about the track at Bydgoszcz and congratulations to Krysztof for an excellent and determined win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Really BSI need to come out and say if you ride in the SEC your don't ride in the GP series. Riders want to be world champ. They don't care so much for European Champion. Means nothing in the Scheme of things and proved by Emil now upset at making a bad call and missing out on the chance of becoming world champion this season. Never mind Emil you have the SEC to look forward to. LOL! Now Woffinden. Absolutely terrible this season. A year ago this is exactly what I would have expected. But not now and he is giving up his crown without even a whimper. If he knows what the problem is he should have done something about it. By the look of things nearly every other rider in the series has stolen a march on him. Why is he riding last years bikes? No money in the pot? Looks like he is on a slug. No fight at all. When interviewed last night I didn't think it was so much his back room staff, but perhaps an injury. Did he damage something when he crashed at Leicester? Does he need an operation? One thing is for sure. He needs to be on the podium at the next GP or he can start to write this season off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Loved the GP last night! Although I think there was probably more atmosphere in the front room with 5 adults and 2 kids screaming at the TV than there appeared to be at the track!!!? Whether politics or a reduction in speedway interest from the Bydgoszcz public is to blame, the crowd was very disappointing for everyone!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) NO one can disguise the attendance but it would be foolish to blame it simply on the problems created by the FIM between BSI and OneSport. Foremost the non-appearance of Tomasz Gollob, still the major drawcard in Poland let alone his home town, is a major factor. And let's not forget that the real reason Gollob isn't riding is because he lost his highly lucrative sponsorship with Monster. And that he wanted an appearance fee to be the wild card tonight. Speedway in Bydgoszcz is not the crowd puller it once was with the local team no longer in the top flight and league attendances now well under 2,000 apparently. There is also a big basketball (popular in Bydgoszcz) on in the town. The poor crowd isn't necessarily a reflection on the SGP as a whole and but the series and Polish speedway desperately needs another Gollob. Polish fans are notoriously fickle and demand winners but no matter what the likes of Hampel and Kaspzrak achieve they will never have the charisma and entertainment value of Tomasz. INCIDENTALLY, I hear that Emil Sayfurdinov is desperately disappointed not to be racing in the SGP and is regretting his (or others) decision not to compete this year. Presumably they are not surprised or disappointed then as most of these factors were known beforehand yet they still decided to award a gp and the WC there. If you believe that those are the reasons why then the WC will equally be badly attended as those factors will remain. Edited April 27, 2014 by Noodles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) NO one can disguise the attendance but it would be foolish to blame it simply Speedway in Bydgoszcz is not the crowd puller it once was with the local team no longer in the top flight and league attendances now well under 2,000 apparently. There is also a big basketball (popular in Bydgoszcz) on in the town. etc etc.... I really hope you're being paid to write this stuff... Why is Gollob not in the SGP in the first place? It has everything to do with the spat between BSI and OneSport no matter how much basketball is blamed. Incidentally, I looked up the basketball fixtures and as far as I can see Bydgoszcz were not playing on Saturday - unless you're talking about the women's' team! Really BSI need to come out and say if you ride in the SEC your don't ride in the GP series.They already tried to do that, and obviously realised they'd get sued. Riders earn most of their money from polish fans who pay lots of money to attend meetings but these riders ride on the Saturday before riding for a pittance and then don't turn up for their main employers on the Sunday for the Polish league. The BSI take up Friday's and Saturday's and then give the polish clubs injured riders on the Sunday. Boo hoo. Perhaps they'll now understand what it was like to be a British fan... Edited April 27, 2014 by Humphrey Appleby 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Couldn't agree more Humphrey, trouble is no matter how many disasters, how many errors or poor judgements from BSI they won't be criticised to any realistic level by anyone from Speedway Star. Strange bedfellows but then again the Star and the BSPA have a similar relationship. Basketball that great Polish sport etc etc It's not even One Sport, There's a hatred from Polish fans towards the GP series. Riders earn most of their money from polish fans who pay lots of money to attend meetings but these riders ride on the Saturday before riding for a pittance and then don't turn up for their main employers on the Sunday for the Polish league. The BSI take up Friday's and Saturday's and then give the polish clubs injured riders on the Sunday. You may well be right but given what BSI have done to British Speedway then the Poles should consider themselves lucky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Last years crowd was excellent, last nights poor...the difference?.....Gollob....just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Really BSI need to come out and say if you ride in the SEC your don't ride in the GP series. Nope, they intended to do that but it would violate European labour laws which grants free movement for EU citizens within the European union, which means it is illegal and therefore they cannot make such decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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