Robert Lambert Mouthing Off In The Star. Oh Dear.

[Daniel Smith]

Maybe the comments are taken out of context, maybe they're not. Either way they are not great reading. Does come across big headed.

 

Just like Micheal Lee, the BSPA could make life very awkward for him and it doesn't sound like the German authorities want him kicking around their National squad either.

 

At such a young age The talking should be done on track on a regular basis not from the mouth. If he knock in double figures week in week out then he can have his say.

 

Good luck to the kid and all top rider's need that edge of arrogance, it's how you demonstrate it that's important. He got this slightly wrong, all part of the learning curve.

[E I Addio]

 

Typically you have taken what was written in the wrong context. The jealousy factor was aimed at those posters on here, who were coming out with all the flack, such as: ' If he's not British then he cant ride this year' and he'll have to alter his average so he can't ride for Lynn' etc. etc.. as if he's committed the biggest crime in the world.

 

Never once, was that comment directed at the BSPA. As for the rules , I am well aware of the restraints in place for 14yr olds, but you can't knock someone who has the ability to go places where he was allowed to race......

 

 

The wrong context ? Come on, your comment was "the whole thing reeks of jealousy", not just one or two posters on this thread. If you are well aware that there are restraints on 14-year olds and you knew Lambert was challenging those restrictions, why not say so in your post instead of talking about the "whole thing reeking of jealousy"? Not one single poster has knocked him on the grounds of ability, The OP was about him mouthing off in the press bout not riding for his country (which he hasn't been picked for anyway) because he had to follow the same rules as youngsters in most other countries.

You are entitled to your opinion but don't start falling back on the "whole thing reeks of jealousy " argument when clearly that is not what people are saying at all.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

There is a thin thin between confidence and arrogance and at this stage few if any wouldve seen enough of Lambert to really know which side of the line he is on.

 

Whichever it is Id say that this is a misguided piece for him to have agreed to release from a PR point of view.

[TMW]

In France you can't ride a 500 at 14. Ok there isn't a league system over here but they feel at 14 they're not ready or have the strength and endurance to control it.

Fair enough

[Bagpuss]

There is a thin thin between confidence and arrogance and at this stage few if any wouldve seen enough of Lambert to really know which side of the line he is on.

 

Whichever it is Id say that this is a misguided piece for him to have agreed to release from a PR point of view.

Spot on. It reads like a tabloid style series of revelations and accusations and doesn't show him in a great light. Hopefully he will keep his gob shut from now on and do his talking on the track as I think there are already people waiting for him to fail and every outburst will add a few more.

 

I think there is probably more going on between the Lamberts and the BSPA than meets the eye but I also think there is a case for allowing fourteen year olds to race 500's if their ability is exceptional. If he wants to represent Germany that is up to him but he'll be cutting his nose off to spite his face by withdrawing from the British U21's and seniors if he gets the opportunity to race.

[adz_mft]

The rules are the same for anyone at that age.You can't ride in the league until you're 15.Why should 1 rider,regardless of his ability get preference.Fair play to him going over to Germany and benefitting from their rules,but for the life of me I can't see how anyone who was born and bred in this country wouldn't want to represent it on the international stage.

[SCB]

Regardless of all the rights and wrong here, the BSPA/SCB/Rosco/Morris should be sitting down in a meeting with Robert and his parents and sorting this out. If our kids are pissed off with the authorities then the top guys must be too. Get it sorted.

[g13webb]

 

 

The wrong context ? Come on, your comment was "the whole thing reeks of jealousy", not just one or two posters on this thread. If you are well aware that there are restraints on 14-year olds and you knew Lambert was challenging those restrictions, why not say so in your post instead of talking about the "whole thing reeking of jealousy"? Not one single poster has knocked him on the grounds of ability, The OP was about him mouthing off in the press bout not riding for his country (which he hasn't been picked for anyway) because he had to follow the same rules as youngsters in most other countries.

You are entitled to your opinion but don't start falling back on the "whole thing reeks of jealousy " argument when clearly that is not what people are saying at all.

 

I take on board what you say and can now understand why you thought I was referring to the BSPA.

Making comments on this thread, I was trying to keep in content the fact this boy is just 15 yrs old, and when that young, you tend to say things without appreciating the implications. Probably the people who was doing the article should have been more helpful, instead of thinking about making him look 'the big I am' . they were aware and should have explained how he was coming across. either way, the opinion I have is that comments have been way over the top for someone so young and innocent.

[semion]

Im just looking forward to seeing the lad back on the track again. I wonder how many of the people calling him a 'Little s41t' ect will be blowing smoke up his ass, IF ( Note the word) he goes on to become a decent grand Prix rider in years to come.

 

It would be interesting also what mouthpiece Shovvy would think to him If Ford came out waving his chequebook about in a few years time.

 

The Boy has a lot of learning to do, both on and off the track, but hey lets not worry about that, lets all give it to a 15 year old schoolboy.

[tigerowl]

Ah yes, the Germans.

 

One speedway World Champion, on a track set up for him to win (good rider though), a Grand Prix rider aged 30 this year, no World Finalist since Gerd Riss in 1993 (21 years ago).

 

Great prospects who may have ridden their 500cc bikes at 14 that did fantastically well in the British League, Busch, Helfer, Dilger, Maasen...

[SteveLyric2]

Isn't it his birthday tomorrow?? With the way Wolbert and Dilger performed in the Euro Pairs last Friday, Lambert could well be partnering Smolinski in the next 2 rounds??!!

Edited April 4, 2014 by Skidder1

[E I Addio]

 

I take on board what you say and can now understand why you thought I was referring to the BSPA.

Making comments on this thread, I was trying to keep in content the fact this boy is just 15 yrs old, and when that young, you tend to say things without appreciating the implications. Probably the people who was doing the article should have been more helpful, instead of thinking about making him look 'the big I am' . they were aware and should have explained how he was coming across. either way, the opinion I have is that comments have been way over the top for someone so young and innocent.

 

Fair enough. Not the first time Speedway Star have over-hyped something e.g Briggo's comments on dirt deflectors. As others have said, let's hope Lambert learns to keep his mouth shut and do his talking on the track in future.

14 year olds can ride 500's they just aren't allowed to race against an opponent. Hence why up till now Reece Downes has had his own personal heat in the Scunthorpe amateur meetings and why Robert Lamber had to ride round on his own at RH

 

How is Australia the 'rest' of Speedway?. What do they do in Europe do?

 

As I said before, according to Speedway Star Germany are an exception to the norm in letting riders that young compete on 500cc machines.

[foamfence]

I see he's still named today in the under 21 final draw.

[spin king]

_{I don't think that we should look to far into this, they are the words of a young speedway rider who is not yet 16.}

 

_{I do think that Alun Rossiter should pay Robert and his family a visit and find out what their gripes are about maybe explain situations, offer some timely advice and address a few of the problems.}

 

_{The lad does have great potential, and at the moment we need riders with his sort of potential.}

 

_{But I do think that if he continues to want to have very little or nothing to do with Team GB then so be it , but he has to understand that he losess the benefits when riding over here if he does.}

[Fromafar]

Sour taste at 15 is a poor attitude,just because he's raced and beaten a few Germans won't count for a lot ,poor advice given regarding the article.wish him well though.It won't be a game changer him not want to ride for GB IMO

[spin king]

Sour taste at 15 is a poor attitude,just because he's raced and beaten a few Germans won't count for a lot ,poor advice given regarding the article.wish him well though.It won't be a game changer him not want to ride for GB IMO

 

Sour taste at 15 is a poor attitude,just because he's raced and beaten a few Germans won't count for a lot ,poor advice given regarding the article.wish him well though.It won't be a game changer him not want to ride for GB IMO

 

Actually he also beat a rider who was briefly Berwick's number 1 and a rider who is going to be a GP rider this season, don't under estimate the lads potential.

[Fromafar]

Actually he also beat a rider who was briefly Berwick's number 1 and a rider who is going to be a GP rider this season, don't under estimate the lads potential.

WOW!!!

[iris123]

To me the Star has set him up for a fall here with their criticism.I wonder if they have done one or two pieces criticizing Horton or Ford etc recently?Did the Star do a big article taking Darcy Ward to task or one highlighting Lindbäcks alcohol problems a few years back?Things far worse than what a youngster has to say to someone looking for a story.I do also think he shouldn't come out with some of the things he seems to have said,but.........more often than not youngsters are treated on ability in many things especially at school.You'll get the more intelligent children pushed on.You will hear of youngsters taking exams a year or two before other kids of their age.You will also find some talented youngsters in the Olypics competing against people far older.

 

It is ok to point out Dilger and Busch as Germans who have started out on a 500cc at 14 and not achieved much,but on the other hand both Dryml brothers also came to Germany to get round rules in their country and one or two here will tell you just how good one of the brothers was before an unfortunate accident.Two sides to every story and it is not one size fits all.Some youngsters are just far better at an early age.His parents thought it more suitable to his ability to be riding against better riders than he would have done in the British youth championships.I'd guess Camo Heeps and Brady Kurtz's parents thought it an advantage for their children to ride a season on 500's in Denmark before they could do a season in GB

 

I have met the family and talked to them and must say i found them very pleasant without any big heads at all,but they did feel a sense of grievance towards the British authorities and funnily enough were a bit upset at the time by an article in the Star about Robert and that was well over a year ago.So it seems nothing has been done to build bridges.

 

Quite a shame to see so many adults on here taking exception to something someone so young has said and seemingly out to 'teach him a lesson'.I'd say the sport has bigger problems than this

[foamfence]

To me the Star has set him up for a fall here with their criticism.I wonder if they have done one or two pieces criticizing Horton or Ford etc recently?Did the Star do a big article taking Darcy Ward to task or one highlighting Lindbäcks alcohol problems a few years back?Things far worse than what a youngster has to say to someone looking for a story.I do also think he shouldn't come out with some of the things he seems to have said,but.........more often than not youngsters are treated on ability in many things especially at school.You'll get the more intelligent children pushed on.You will hear of youngsters taking exams a year or two before other kids of their age.You will also find some talented youngsters in the Olypics competing against people far older.

 

It is ok to point out Dilger and Busch as Germans who have started out on a 500cc at 14 and not achieved much,but on the other hand both Dryml brothers also came to Germany to get round rules in their country and one or two here will tell you just how good one of the brothers was before an unfortunate accident.Two sides to every story and it is not one size fits all.Some youngsters are just far better at an early age.His parents thought it more suitable to his ability to be riding against better riders than he would have done in the British youth championships.I'd guess Camo Heeps and Brady Kurtz's parents thought it an advantage for their children to ride a season on 500's in Denmark before they could do a season in GB

 

I have met the family and talked to them and must say i found them very pleasant without any big heads at all,but they did feel a sense of grievance towards the British authorities and funnily enough were a bit upset at the time by an article in the Star about Robert and that was well over a year ago.So it seems nothing has been done to build bridges.

 

Quite a shame to see so many adults on here taking exception to something someone so young has said and seemingly out to 'teach him a lesson'.I'd say the sport has bigger problems than this

I didn't think the Star was being that critical, the article is simply an interview where he revealed his thoughts and attitude.

[Chris Brown]

Sounds like a Poole rider of the future. Took Ward a good few years to mature, as I recall. Then again he was a Poole rider Shovvy so he couldnt have possibly been a jumped up little s41t.

 

Provided he stay as a German he has a chance of getting into Poole. If he declares himself British he's got no chance