Coventry V Scunthorpe 4th April

[Heathen1984]

That's not speedway what's happened tonight. Why would anyone go and pay good money to watch that. Fair play to scunny for what they are doing but I won't be going to any meeting with scunny involved, be a big waste of money. Was the scunny team any younger that cov anyway?

[markyb]

That's not speedway what's happened tonight. Why would anyone go and pay good money to watch that. Fair play to scunny for what they are doing but I won't be going to any meeting with scunny involved, be a big waste of money. Was the scunny team any younger that cov anyway?

After the debacle of the Cradley meeting a couple of weeks ago I declared that I was finished with attending Coventry meetings and especially the Storm. I so full of bullsh@t as I went along tonight.

Forget the score line - I really enjoyed it and so impressed with the track craft of ALL of the Storm, but also the enthusiasm and efforts of the Stags - keep plugging on guys.

 

The track looked amazing and the improved banking seemed highly visible to me. It also remained rut-less for the whole evening -

No real fast times 63.4 upto 67.something,

I had been highly critical of the Polish track curator and also Sandhu and his intentions - but on vision alone looking good.

 

How it fairs as a proper RACING circuit we will have to wait and see.

[TMW]

 

They're not guests, but unattached 3.00 riders brought in to replace injured riders. Scunny could have reverted to R/R, but have put out a full seven-man line-up.

 

All the best

Rob

Don't suppose it matters anyway

That's not speedway what's happened tonight. Why would anyone go and pay good money to watch that. Fair play to scunny for what they are doing but I won't be going to any meeting with scunny involved, be a big waste of money. Was the scunny team any younger that cov anyway?

I thimk the point is they will get better so if you don't watch them you wont see the improvement

[Gemini]

Can't say I really enjoyed it because mostly the Storm riders were gating first and off they went. Hope there were no newcomers to National League racing there tonight because it's normally so much better than that. Was impressed with Steve Jones style of riding for Scunthorpe, also Danno Verge although I'd never previously heard of either of them. What nationality is Danno? The track looked good - that's the main thing - but whether it still will do after the Stock Cars tomorrow is another matter.

[Former devil]

Can't say I really enjoyed it because mostly the Storm riders were gating first and off they went. Hope there were no newcomers to National League racing there tonight because it's normally so much better than that. Was impressed with Steve Jones style of riding for Scunthorpe, also Danno Verge although I'd never previously heard of either of them. What nationality is Danno? The track looked good - that's the main thing - but whether it still will do after the Stock Cars tomorrow is another matter.

Danno Verge is British

[SCB]

Can't say I really enjoyed it because mostly the Storm riders were gating first and off they went. Hope there were no newcomers to National League racing there tonight because it's normally so much better than that. Was impressed with Steve Jones style of riding for Scunthorpe, also Danno Verge although I'd never previously heard of either of them. What nationality is Danno? The track looked good - that's the main thing - but whether it still will do after the Stock Cars tomorrow is another matter.

Steve Jones must be nudging 35 if not more. He rode for Camarthen in the past as well as the Newcastle Gems. in fact I think he even had a few PL meeting for Newcastle, we're talking 15ish years ago and I'm sure he wasnt young then.

[Gemini]

Danno Verge is British

Thanks for the answer - not what I was expecting though.

 

Steve Jones must be nudging 35 if not more. He rode for Camarthen in the past as well as the Newcastle Gems. in fact I think he even had a few PL meeting for Newcastle, we're talking 15ish years ago and I'm sure he wasnt young then.

Not a youngster then. I just go by the style of riding and I liked his.

[adz_mft]

Can't help but think Scunny would have been better off running a team in the MDL.The new lads will have still gained racing experience.Then next year run a NL team using the riders they've used in he MDL

[montie]

Can't help but think Scunny would have been better off running a team in the MDL.The new lads will have still gained racing experience.Then next year run a NL team using the riders they've used in he MDL

what and spend hours running around the country to be told the curfew is now in place and you cant have a ride!!

No comparison to NL racing

[adz_mft]

what and spend hours running around the country to be told the curfew is now in place and you cant have a ride!!

No comparison to NL racing

I just can't see how this is going to help their confidence,not just getting beat but slaughted pretty much.Confidence is a massive part of speedway.I am all for what Scunny are trying to achieve but imho they've gone about it the wrong way.Bring on some young kids yes but do so with a couple of riders who have been about for a few years.Have a solid heat leader trio and fill the gaps with the likes of Sanderson.Not only can the experienced riders help off track but also on it.Look at Jon Armstrong last year.Was paired with Josh Bates for a fair amount of the season.Was a huge benefit to Josh's progress IMO

[montie]

I just can't see how this is going to help their confidence,not just getting beat but slaughted pretty much.Confidence is a massive part of speedway.I am all for what Scunny are trying to achieve but imho they've gone about it the wrong way.Bring on some young kids yes but do so with a couple of riders who have been about for a few years.Have a solid heat leader trio and fill the gaps with the likes of Sanderson.Not only can the experienced riders help off track but also on it.Look at Jon Armstrong last year.Was paired with Josh Bates for a fair amount of the season.Was a huge benefit to Josh's progress IMO

and which 3 experience heatleaders would you use??

[adz_mft]

There isn't any that is the problem.Imo the league struggled to find enough riders last year.With 2 new teams, the limit should have been lowered to make sure there were enough to make the teams more balanced.

Don't know what these riders are doing,if they're retired or not but

Irving,Warwick,Young,Knight,McKinna,Priest,Isherwood,Owen,Hazleden,Franklin,Baseby

Edited April 5, 2014 by adz_mft

[MFE]

So may positives to take from the Storm Meeting on Friday Night.

 

1) The track was superb, without doubt the best I've seen it in a long while.

2) Great to see Colin Pratt at the stadium! - hopefully, point 1 refers.

3) The stadium was sparkling, so much attention has been paid to relaying car parks and land inside the stadium

and also behind the back straight, really smart.

4) Whilst desperately sorry for Scunthorpe injury list, the Storm riders were brilliant.

5) Hope tonight's Stock Car Meeting does not undo the terrific work that has been undertaken.

 

Looking forward to the Kings Lynn Meet next Friday.

 

Hope Bomber is not too depressed by his New Zealand GP Showing.

[greyhoundp]

There isn't any that is the problem.Imo the league struggled to find enough riders last year.With 2 new teams, the limit should have been lowered to make sure there were enough to make the teams more balanced.

Don't know what these riders are doing,if they're retired or not but

Irving,Warwick,Young,Knight,McKinna,Priest,Isherwood,Owen,Hazleden,Franklin,Baseby

 

So far as i am aware, all have retired except Young, Isherwood, Priest who just seem to have drifted away, and Marc Owen now i do think he is still trying to find rides, now he could do a job for Scunny, Yes i do believe he would have a long way to travel, but home meetings are on a weekend i believe, and he would have to do away meetings whoever he rode for, Marc has done the Under 21 at Plymouth, and is in the Final at Cradley so i think this shows he still wants to stay in the Sport, and i think riding for Scunny without pressure would be beneficial to him and Scunny, and he is due a spell without injury.

[lucifer sam]

I just can't see how this is going to help their confidence,not just getting beat but slaughted pretty much.Confidence is a massive part of speedway.I am all for what Scunny are trying to achieve but imho they've gone about it the wrong way.Bring on some young kids yes but do so with a couple of riders who have been about for a few years.Have a solid heat leader trio and fill the gaps with the likes of Sanderson.Not only can the experienced riders help off track but also on it.Look at Jon Armstrong last year.Was paired with Josh Bates for a fair amount of the season.Was a huge benefit to Josh's progress IMO

 

Steve Jones has been around for a few years. Scunny also tried to bring in Lee Dicken, but that's now been blocked.

 

I enjoyed last night - as the Scunny boys gradually improved as the night went on. I predicted after Heat 10 that Danno would beat Martin Knuckey in Heat 12 and he did... from the back.

 

My own personal view would be I'd like to see one more exprienced rider in there, as well as Steve Jones. I think two more experienced riders plus five rookies would be a good mix. But as the blocked attempt to sign Lee Dicken shows, it's not that easy to find a rider who fits within the NL rules.

 

All the best

Rob

Edited April 5, 2014 by lucifer sam

[adz_mft]

Steve Jones has been around for a few years. Scunny also tried to bring in Lee Dicken, but that's now been blocked.

 

All the best

Rob

As expected really when you can only have 1 rider over 30

[Swift Saint]

I just wish the total knockers would get off Scunthorpe's back.

 

The points limit would have been better lowered however that had all been decided before Scunthorpe came on board. This is also the third season of a three year 40.00 points limit. I would personally like it to be 36.00 for a nine team League less if there are more teams.

 

The lesson is do not set a points limit for three years but assess annually based on the number of teams but that is not always known when the National League AGM takes place. Everyone thinks it is so easy for the AGM and for Scunthorpe that is not the case and the unexpectedly long list of useful riders not taking part this season is indicative of that. People want the meeting early but is there not also an argument for allowing teams to enter as late as possible. It is a very difficult balance to strike and all involved try desperately hard to stretch in all ways.

 

So have a bit of tolerance for Scunthorpe go and see them for yourselves at your home track and lets work for the good of speedway looking at the wider picture. Boston beat Buxton 71-19 in 2000 we didn't moan we rejoiced that we were doing so well

 

 

 

Malcolm Vasey

[montie]

That's not speedway what's happened tonight. Why would anyone go and pay good money to watch that. Fair play to scunny for what they are doing but I won't be going to any meeting with scunny involved, be a big waste of money. Was the scunny team any younger that cov anyway?

Tell me..where did the storms heat leader Trio start out?? And where did half of your team start out??

 

And next season where will you get your heat leaders from??

[Ommer Mon]

I have no idea if he would be interested but what about former Heathen Mark Robinson. He rode in a challenge match for Dudley a couple of years ago and scored 7+2 from 3 completed rides against a pretty experienced Birmingham Bulls septet including Garrity, Pickard, Priest and Sarjeant. He made some enquiries about a comeback at ther time and was told be would be saddled with his old BJL average of 9+. I'm sure he would not claim to be a points machine but I'm sure he would be a big help to the youngsters and that is what counts.

 

Hope that may be helpful.

[MrMungo]

I really hope Steve Jones is not giving others gating advice. Sweet Mother of God! Even on gate 3 (which was far superior), he was trundling out of the start.

MacDonald looks pretty steady, and when he got out of the start with the others, he looked solid.

If he can make some consistent starts, he'll score points.

 

Dwyer, again, took another hefty crash. Best wishes to him. Everytime I see him, he tends to have a big one. Hope I don't curse him!

Would be a decent NL rider if he could stay on.

 

Track was pretty inconsistent, but far better than what it was the last time I was there. "Luckily" most races were pretty spaced out, so riders were generally okay if they used their head.

 

Whilst on the topic of people using their head, it might be beneficial for everyone concerned if the flag marshall could stay off the track whilst a race is going on!