screm Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Good to see the BSPA acting so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Were you at Workington the meeting Auty made one of his "racing moves" on Kenny Ingalls ??? . Mmmmmm I suggest not . It sickened me to the stomach to see Kenny laid out on the track and his injuries have ended his career. So sorry but to me that is not excitement , but whatever floats your boat . What Hall did was unacceptable but Auty is by no way an Angel in all of this . Punish them both they BOTH deserve it .I was there and the actual problem was MPT bringing up the rear and riding over Ingalls after Auty had knocked him off. That said, is it maybe time that dangerous riding was penalised? Unfair play is penalised in football. Maybe the equivalent of a penalty. Auty does seem to be on the end of a lot of crashes and then maybe riders wouldn't get frustrated. I don't call that exciting either and if RG thinks it is then it's a sad day for the sport. Surely passing should be executed like we saw on the GP on Sat Pederson lining up Holder and waiting his time, that was perfect. Not riders barging through and hoping for the best.If thats not what you are looking for then head for your nearest Demolition Derby. No Hall shouldn't have done it then again, we expect these riders to be aggresive on the bikes but if they show any sign of this off the bike woe be tied. Edited April 8, 2014 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Good to see the BSPA acting so quickly. its the SCB who impose bans not the BSPA, but hey everyone blames them anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Does the ban apply to all forms of the sport or just Speedway in The UK ? Edited April 8, 2014 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 SCB STATEMENT Tuesday April 08, 2014 THE Speedway Control Bureau have issued a statement following an incident at the Scunthorpe v Redcar League Cup meeting on Sunday April 6. The statement reads: Premier League: SCUNTHORPE v REDCAR: Sunday 6th April 2014 A racing incident occurred in Heat 7 of the above Meeting in which Josh Auty (Scunthorpe) and Richard Hall (Redcar) collided and both fell on the track. The Meeting Referee, Peter Clarke immediately indicated the disqualification of Auty as being the primary cause. However, Hall after removing his bike from the Fence went over to Auty, who was lying on the track and kicked him in the stomach. As a consequence the Referee ordered that Hall be excluded from the remainder of the Meeting, imposed a fine and sent a report to the SCB. The SCB received a statement from Hall by email early on Monday morning which both admitted the incident and expressed deep regret at his actions and stated that he will be making a full, public apology to Josh Auty, the Scunthorpe public who witnessed his actions and his own Team mates. Taking everything into account the penalty is that Richard Hall’s SCB Registration will be suspended for 30 days with effect from Monday 7th April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Now will Redcar do the right thing and get rid, after all he was a bit of an after thought as a signing anyway. Does British Speedway need riders like that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Does the ban apply to all forms of the sport or just Speedway in The UK ? im sure the ban is for all forms of speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinuteWarning Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Full marks to the SCB for acting so decisively and so quickly Edited April 8, 2014 by TwoMinuteWarning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulvik Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 What I find Intreasting is the Redcar promotion's responce or LACK OF IT as already been stated on here when Ben Powell aimed his bike at Kenni Larsen, Rob Godfrey sacked him the same night. Powell still recievied a 12 month ban. So far Redcar Bears have said nothing to me this lack of a responce shows they condone Hall's actions and if this is the case they should be fined as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 So do Redcar get a guest/r/r facility for 30 days?? Or do they have to redeclare with a new signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 So do Redcar get a guest/r/r facility for 30 days?? Or do they have to redeclare with a new signing? I'm thinking R/R as he's not a number 1 (only guessing though). It is the rider who is being punished here, not the club, so a facility of some kind should be granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Remember Hall sprinting after a rider that knocked him off in the EL play-off final in 2006 too. It was on Sky the other night incidentally when the ERC was called off and they showed some past action. Whatever Auty is like on the track is irrelevant, he has been kicked whilst on the floor after crashing. It may sound extreme but if he did have internal bleeding and the kick to the stomach had killed him then Hall would be facing a charge of manslaughter regardless of whether 'he had it coming to him' or not as some are suggesting here. A cowardly action, speedway doesn't need people like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I was there and the actual problem was MPT bringing up the rear and riding over Ingalls after Auty had knocked him off. That said, is it maybe time that dangerous riding was penalised? Unfair play is penalised in football. Maybe the equivalent of a penalty. Auty does seem to be on the end of a lot of crashes and then maybe riders wouldn't get frustrated. I don't call that exciting either and if RG thinks it is then it's a sad day for the sport. Surely passing should be executed like we saw on the GP on Sat Pederson lining up Holder and waiting his time, that was perfect. Not riders barging through and hoping for the best.If thats not what you are looking for then head for your nearest Demolition Derby. No Hall shouldn't have done it then again, we expect these riders to be aggresive on the bikes but if they show any sign of this off the bike woe be tied. No, the problem first and foremost was Auty trying to get a line that simply wasn't there , the aftermath of MPT added fuel to the fire. Auty was the prime cause of the accident, agree with you on your other counts though. 30day ban , a fair punishment , lest not forget the referee excluded Auty as being the cause of the accident Aye they are a weird bunch over there on the left hand coast. Still waiting for your answer as to why its a ridiculous post ????? Thought not !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Remember Hall sprinting after a rider that knocked him off in the EL play-off final in 2006 too. It was on Sky the other night incidentally when the ERC was called off and they showed some past action. Whatever Auty is like on the track is irrelevant, he has been kicked whilst on the floor after crashing. It may sound extreme but if he did have internal bleeding and the kick to the stomach had killed him then Hall would be facing a charge of manslaughter regardless of whether 'he had it coming to him' or not as some are suggesting here. A cowardly action, speedway doesn't need people like that. Mark Lemon of Reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Remember Hall sprinting after a rider that knocked him off in the EL play-off final in 2006 too. It was on Sky the other night incidentally when the ERC was called off and they showed some past action. Whatever Auty is like on the track is irrelevant, he has been kicked whilst on the floor after crashing. It may sound extreme but if he did have internal bleeding and the kick to the stomach had killed him then Hall would be facing a charge of manslaughter regardless of whether 'he had it coming to him' or not as some are suggesting here. A cowardly action, speedway doesn't need people like that. that's all a little bit hyperthetical, is'nt it,,,, what if Hall had've been killed by Josh's actions,,, n so on so on,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 im sure the ban is for all forms of speedway Don't see why Hall could at least be allowed to practice during his ban, and go along to give his support to Redcar, but obviously not race. Once his has served his ban then I hope he gets back to his racing with lessons learned. I'm sure Redcar would want to bring in a rider, even if its just for Halls ban, however should that signing started scoring good points Hall might find his absence last a lot longer than just thirty days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) No, the problem first and foremost was Auty trying to get a line that simply wasn't there , the aftermath of MPT added fuel to the fire. Auty was the prime cause of the accident, agree with you on your other counts though. I do also remember Auty being dragged away by his team management as he was busy sticking his middle finger up at Workington supporters. While Ingalls was lying on the ground with what transpired to be a broken back. Top marks to Lawson that day who acte like a true no.1 Edited April 8, 2014 by TMW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) anyone want to put on here just how many time auty has been excluded for danderous or unfair riding.. it is not a carrear first for auty.. he done it at workington when he was a kid.. under 16. in a meeting. i think the other rider was joe haines. cant remember who the rider was, but he went on to clean up the starting marsheljust looks like he has not learnt any respect for fellow riders since then.. Edited April 8, 2014 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 What is it with the water up Workington way? For just about everyone else, though, this is now resolved and yesterday's news. Richard Hall has apologised, he's been given a penalty that is just about right, and now we can get back to the stuff that matters... on the speedway track. All the best Rob 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) What is it with the water up Workington way? For just about everyone else, though, this is now resolved and yesterday's news. Richard Hall has apologised, he's been given a penalty that is just about right, and now we can get back to the stuff that matters... on the speedway track. All the best Rob I think they call it mitigating circumstances but you are right Edited April 8, 2014 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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