Yearbyred Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I was at the meeting and watched it the incident was just first bend bunching nothing more that all four riders wanting the same bit of track .Auty was laying on the ground clearly In pain when Hall kicked him (Auty looks to have torn his leg ligerments) Hall was thrown out of the meeting and finded. Personally I feel the BSPA should take further action and ban Hall for at least two months I'd like to thing the Promoter's at Redcar would also punish Hall would clearly to no notice that Auty was badly hurt but having seen the redcar fans reaction both at the meeting and on the forum I doubt it I know Auty isn't an angel but I have yet to see him kick another rider as they lay injured on the track Most (if not all) of those posting anything against Auty are not supporters of Redcar speedway. You can't justify Halls reaction and I am sure he will be punished further. Hope Auty is ok and Scunnys luck changes soon. All that said - good win for the Bears 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 As a 100% neutral visiting from King's Lynn, I thought this was an absolute humdinger of a meeting, with some of the best racing I've seen in years. The track and facilities in general are a credit to Rob Godfrey and his team, and I have nothing but admiration for everything that has happened over the years at the Eddie Wright Raceway. I've still got to complain about the public announcements though, because they are barely audible. It's not the tannoy at fault, as when the pre-meeting radio is being played through it, there are no problems. When the guy on the centre-green, who incidentally is hilarious (is it Me Godfrey?) is doing his bit, once again no problems. However, whoever is sitting in the announcers box must be waving the microphone around all the time, and he really does need to learn how to announce properly. I'm sorry sir, whoever you are, and I don't mean to insult you, but it's almost impossible to hear you when you give race times in particular. As for the unsavoury incident, and once again as I said from a neutral point of view, my opinion, and it is only my own opinion, is that Josh Auty was completely to blame for the crash, that I have no doubt whatsoever. However, Richard Hall should never have acted in the way that he did, and should now have the book thrown at him.....BIG TIME. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincoln poacher Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 It was simply a run of the mill racing incident thats happened a 100 times.Hall just lost it.Auty is a racer thro and thro.All riders take the risk every time they race.Can think of a few teams that would love to have a racer like Auty in their team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC Rides Again Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 As a 100% neutral visiting from King's Lynn, I thought this was an absolute humdinger of a meeting, with some of the best racing I've seen in years. Par for the course at the EWR. As for the unsavoury incident, and once again as I said from a neutral point of view, my opinion, and it is only my own opinion, is that Josh Auty was completely to blame for the crash, that I have no doubt whatsoever. However, Richard Hall should never have acted in the way that he did, and should now have the book thrown at him.....BIG TIME. Agree with you Mimmo (but I'd maybe put the blame for the crash as 90% Auty and 10% Hall) Most (if not all) of those posting anything against Auty are not supporters of Redcar speedway. You can't justify Halls reaction and I am sure he will be punished further. Hope Auty is ok and Scunnys luck changes soon. All that said - good win for the Bears Redcar very good today. Best I've seen Summers ride at Scunthorpe, Lawson a class act at No. 1 and Skidmore, Wilko and Graveson all go well at the EWR, so you were made to win at our place. I also thought Crang looked good as a three pointer. Rob Godfrey must have a headache going to bed tonight. The Scorpions couldn't have made a worse start to the season. Their number 1 out for months, Auty potentially side lined as well and the captain never looking like beating an opponent today. Oh, and Somerset visiting the EWR next week ! Looks like three straight home defeats to start with. The only real bright spot was Ryan Douglas who looks like fully justifying the faith being shown in him by the Scunthorpe management. I don't think that Lawson will have many riders swoop past him this season like the young Aussie did this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 To actually kick a fellow rider who it appears was lying injured on the track has to be the lowest of the low, I hope Redcar and the BSPA throw the book at Hall. two wrongs don't make a right,,, will that be paperback or hardback ??? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Does anyone know how long Auty will be out for? Maybe Scunthorpe could look to bring in Ty Proctor with Mellgren having a lengthy spell out. It'd leave em 5.64 for the 2nd rider they bring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Doesn't matter, so long as he's laying down when they do it ... I heard after Cook's exclusion & fine at Foxhall last season, that because the ref had taken action, no further penalty was possible. I think you will find that there is an SCB enquiry this week about this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Any news on how Auty is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Most (if not all) of those posting anything against Auty are not supporters of Redcar speedway. You can't justify Halls reaction and I am sure he will be punished further. Hope Auty is ok and Scunnys luck changes soon. All that said - good win for the Bears Have to agree that Richard Hall's reaction was totally unacceptable. Just imagine a footballer kicking an injured opponent whilst he was stricken on the ground, he would have the book thrown at him. As I explained to RH's supporters around me; it matters not what has gone on before you cannot kick an injured opponent. How could RH be sure Josh was not badly injured and his kick would add to those injuries. On 'the street' I think RH might be looking at a Police charge (not that I am wishing this on RH) I don't want to think of him in that way. I respect the riders all of them; there is a line of racing respect and it has always existed. Except it went right out the window today. From my view point it was 4 riders going for the same bit of track and boosh!. You think you have seen it all in Speedway and then this. It will be interesting to see how the BSPA and Redcar Speedway deal with RH; for sure he has brought Speedway into disrepute. The only time I have seen anything like this was back in 1973 when Crazy Jack Millen riding for Sunderland at Bradford fell and proceeded to 'put the boot in' on the St Johns Ambulance man who went to his assistance. On the meeting itself; the Scorpions already without injured No1 Anders Mellgren had the cards further stacked against after the Heat7 incident with Hall/Auty. Ryan Douglas offered hope with some great riding but with Ashley Birks off the pace and Tommy Gun miss-firing; the Bears assumed control in the later stages. I was impressed with David Howe who looked competitive and up with the Redcar riders in his heats. With the season barely underway; change seems inevitable when the first Green Sheet averages are out. First up as things stand the Scorpions go to Sheffield on Thursday looking to keep things respectable and will want to begin their Premier League campaign with a win over Somerset next Sunday at the EWR. Edited April 6, 2014 by the outsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin poole Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 To be fair to Jack,he suffered a broken collar bone and the St Johns guy did pull him off the track by the arm the same side 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Most (if not all) of those posting anything against Auty are not supporters of Redcar speedway. You can't justify Halls reaction and I am sure he will be punished further. Hope Auty is ok and Scunnys luck changes soon. All that said - good win for the Bears <trolling removed, refer to forum rules> On another note get well soon Josh and well done Redcar on the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 nice one richard. next time you are in mcdonalds, i will buy you a burger. auty has had it coming for a long time. just how many of your riders has he wiped out and thought nothing of it.perhaps he should be treat like a garden and dug over at a regular bases.. Are you for real? Just glad that 99.9% of speedway fans are nice folk, and people like you are in the minority. All the best Rob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 You think you have seen it all in Speedway and then this. It will be interesting to see how the BSPA and Redcar Speedway deal with RH; for sure he has brought Speedway into disrepute. The only time I have seen anything like this was back in 1973 when Crazy Jack Millen riding for Sunderland at Bradford fell and proceeded to 'put the boot in' on the St Johns Ambulance man who went to his assistance. Rob Godfrey sacked Ben Powell on the same night that he aimed his bike at a Newcastle rider in a meeting. I think the case then went to the SCB and he was banned from riding for a while. If Auty had damaged his spine or internal organs the kick that Richard Hall gave Auty may have had tragic consequences. Lucky for the both of them that it was a leg injury... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 It sickens me to hear how some people talk about riders. Everyone of us fans know how dangerous the sport is, especially after the start when all 4 riders are going for the same line. I hope Josh isn't seriously injured, hes still my favourite rider. I find him very exciting to watch and cannot believe some of the posts on here. Like scribbler I immediately thought of the Ben Powell incident. We cannot allow riders to get away with such bad behavior....hang your head in shame RH what you did was unforgivable! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Rob Godfrey sacked Ben Powell on the same night that he aimed his bike at a Newcastle rider in a meeting. I think the case then went to the SCB and he was banned from riding for a while. If Auty had damaged his spine or internal organs the kick that Richard Hall gave Auty may have had tragic consequences. Lucky for the both of them that it was a leg injury... The rider he "aimed his bike at" was Kenni Larsen. Powell was banned for 12 months, but seeing as he is yet to pay the fine, remains banned, although he "retired" after the ban order and returned to Australia, therefore, basically getting away with it scot free (other than the fine on the night). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lucifer sam Posted April 7, 2014 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Just a few thoughts of my own on yesterday’s incident. Handbags are all part of speedway… and have brightened up many a dull meeting. I remember a huge barney at Oxford in 1984, following an incident between Hans Nielsen and Sam Ermolenko, with Ermolenko’s mechanic going wild, and being forcefully ejected from the stadium by security. That’s my memory of that meeting – not the racing. Great stuff. Yesterday was different. It wasn’t a harmless man-to-man, toe-to-toe scuffle. Instead it was one man kicking (with some force) another man in the stomach who was still down on the track, with, at that time, yet to be determined injuries. It was sickening. I’m just glad that Josh Auty had a knee injury – I dread to think what damage Richard Hall may have caused otherwise. Three days earlier Anders Mellgren suffered a fracture to his spine – had Josh Auty been lying on the track with this kind of injury yesterday, Richard Hall could have found himself in serious trouble with the police and facing criminal charges. Tempers do get frayed during the high-octane atmosphere of a speedway meeting, but certain lines cannot be crossed. Striking an injured rider is one of them. A bit of controversy has its place in speedway, but not a cowardly attack on an injured man. All the best Rob Edited April 7, 2014 by lucifer sam 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Please don't tarnish all Workington supporters with the same brush Auty isn't one of the most popular riders at Derwent Park with some justification (the Kenny Ingalls incident) but for what Hall reportedly did to him yesterday is an utter disgrace and he should be facing a lengthly ban. If he had internal injuries a kick in the stomach could have been life threatening. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers in Gravy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Regardless of past history or the rights and wrongs of the racing incident, to kick an injured man when he's down is wrong and no serious sport would tolerate it.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho3a Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 My thoughts, If anyone has video footage please send it to Scunthorpe police !! If Richard Hall is a big enough man to kick someone whilst lay on the ground then he should suffer the whole consequences of not just a disciplinary action from his employees. I know if i did the same thing at work or out in the street what actions would be coming my way. It will be interesting to hear Richard Halls comments.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulvik Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 It will be intresting to see what the Redcar promotion will do. I'd like to think they take a leaf out of Rob Godfrey book and Richard Hall finds himself without a club to ride for. But if the reaction of the Bears fans present at the meeting is concerned I'll be surprised if this is a case. At the time of posting this the Redcar promotion have been very quiet on the matter maybe they feel that this sort of action by riders is acceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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