wandersome Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) You appear to have forgotten Harris in ht 15 can we have your view on that one. Ht 13 was a close race which my apologies if not I thought was the point. Thorrsell, Wells and Ljung against the reserves were always going to be strung out. I'd have been worried if they were closer. I have said in a previous post about Stead. He maybe a racer but he wasn't even close to pass but I like hom so I don't care Hougaard is certainly giving us spme good meetings. Which wasn't going to happen according to some. you can't have my view on that because i wasn't there and they didn't show it on bet365. No one is ever making out passes don't happen (the likes of Harris, Nick Morris etc can clearly make the odd pass), It's just the paucity of passing and the dreadful nature of entertainment that goes on in those many races between those do it or die passes.. Close races aren't the point at all BTW, It's whether you percieve the close race might then result in some passing entertainment or something like that... Edited March 30, 2014 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted March 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) you can't have my view on that because i wasn't there and they didn't show it on bet365. No one is ever making out passes don't happen (the likes of Harris, Nick Morris etc can clearly make the odd pass), It's just the paucity of passing and the dreadful nature of entertainment that goes on in those many races between those do it or die passes.. Close races aren't the point at all BTW, It's whether you percieve the close race might then result in some passing entertainment or something like that... Thank you for your honesty Thart's why our views differ we have a different opnion on what is classed as entertainment both the Woofy crashes were him trying to pass and Lions trying to block him. I don't want to see any passing if it means visitors passimg Lions. I was a bit dubious about joining the EL but I have to say I am warming to it Edited March 30, 2014 by TMW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 edit > Does anyone know who is riding Leicester next Sunday? I'm amazed it's not been mentioned. Leicester v Kent in the National Trophy followed by Long Eaton v Rye House in MDJL. Meeting starts at 4pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 That is most peoples tip who aren't very good at tipping you mean. At least we know if the Robins cant win at either club then they are destined for the bottom end anyway Good luck finding somebody who doesn't think that Leicester & Brum will fill the bottom two places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 That is most peoples tip who aren't very good at tipping you mean. At least we know if the Robins cant win at either club then they are destined for the bottom end anyway Will be joining your team then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Video of the heat 15 crash http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/428062/groznie-wygladajacy-wypadek-taia-woffindena-na-torze-w-leicester-wideo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 A bad looking crash - I can't believe he is going to spend the best part of a day travelling to NZ - surely he isn't fit to travel? Hope he recovers quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirl Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 From where was standing it looked horrendous,so glad that he has walked away virtually unscathed. Good luck tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 That's the first time I've seen Leicester & it looks like a real good stadium so why is the track so bad in peoples eyes?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I must admit I haven't seen such strung out racing in a long long time.you are bound to get strung out races using national league riders.....get used to it. Whilst he has 2000 fans paying to get in and watch that tripe he wont be worried.better to watch good racing with a couple of hundred watching them at Peterborough eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 That's the first time I've seen Leicester & it looks like a real good stadium so why is the track so bad in peoples eyes?. From the action I saw on bet365 last night the entry to the bends is so tight and the riders drift out wide exiting the bends that two riders cant go into the bend together, so you're forever having to follow a rider into the bend. Then as the leading rider drifts out anyway he is covering all the track. Making passing close to impossible. The exceptions were Doyle rode the kerb in heat 1 and got passed and then Ash Morris did similar in heat 2. But go in tight and drift, you have the whole track covered. The issue looks like the straights are so long you take so much speed into the bends you drift out naturally. They need to chop a few metres of the end of the straights (so bring the bends in quite a bit sooner) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 .......mrcts....... better to watch good racing with a couple of hundred watching them at Peterborough eh. I wouldn't get too confident as you don't know what the future holds for Leicester when they've been going for a few more years. We weren't the only ones leaving before the end of the meeting last night and I'd guess that half of that attendance won't be there next time. I'm not going to join in any Leicester bashing because enough has been said already and it's just boring repeating the same old things. In an ideal world the racing would have been exciting in front of such a big crowd but sadly it wasn't and personally paying £28 to watch what was mostly 'follow the leader' stuff doesn't encourage me to want to be there every week so I'll just pick and choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted March 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 That's the first time I've seen Leicester & it looks like a real good stadium so why is the track so bad in peoples eyes?. The view is biased as most of those that are happy have given up posting. Although I know they all atill read. On a normal night we would get 850 - 1000 and there are 4 on here claiming to speak for everyone. Hardly scientific 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencebel Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 See Tai has some injuries to contend with... Get well son Tai.. Very nasty looking crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Good luck finding somebody who doesn't think that Leicester & Brum will fill the bottom two places. The Speedway Star `experts` have Birmingham 8th! Will be joining your team then Maybe concentrate on winning a meeting first and get some points on the board before you worry about our unbeaten run. Video of the heat 15 crash http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/428062/groznie-wygladajacy-wypadek-taia-woffindena-na-torze-w-leicester-wideo Nasty indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted March 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I wouldn't get too confident as you don't know what the future holds for Leicester when they've been going for a few more years. We weren't the only ones leaving before the end of the meeting last night and I'd guess that half of that attendance won't be there next time. I'm not going to join in any Leicester bashing because enough has been said already and it's just boring repeating the same old things. In an ideal world the racing would have been exciting in front of such a big crowd but sadly it wasn't and personally paying £28 to watch what was mostly 'follow the leader' stuff doesn't encourage me to want to be there every week so I'll just pick and choose. Similar to my visits to Cov. I have no axe to grind as I wasn't a fan back in 84 but I do know how you feel about BP as I feel the same at Cov. There are places you warm to and places you don't. I'd say that some people left thinking it would be a lengthy delay as did I HT 15 caught me in the loo queue but it was fairly speedy as there was a 2nd ambulance which I didn't realise. In the PL we are used to waiting for county ambulances it's obviously different in the EL so that's a plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) The view is biased as most of those that are happy have given up posting. Although I know they all atill read. On a normal night we would get 850 - 1000 and there are 4 on here claiming to speak for everyone. Hardly scientific Not strictly true TMW. There have been 100's on here who have all made the point that the racing is hopeless over the last few years. Most have given up speedway because of this so what you are left with are 8-10 diehards still hoping for a miracle (that's us) and a similar amount on your facebook site's saying racing is as good as anywhere in the UK. You're right though that we average 850-1000 but those people that do still go can't be just put down as being happy with what is on offer (personally, I would consider most are likely to have just not decided to stop going yet). That would clearly be conjecture on my part but what isn't conjecture is the fact that we started with crowds of 2000-2500 for most the first year and in 3 years we lost 60% of the crowd, maybe as much as 80% for challenge matches.. Nearly all of those don't post about what racing is like anymore because they no longer give a monkeys about the sport. That's not great when you consider we have some of the most welcoming staff and one of the nicest environments to watch the sport in the UK. But if you just think it's 4 of us then hey, ho. Mick. Edited March 30, 2014 by volty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 better to watch good racing with a couple of hundred watching them at Peterborough eh. Every time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted March 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Not strictly true TMW. There have been 100's on here who have all madeapatthe point that the racing is hopeless over the last few years. Most have given up speedway because of this so what you are left with are 8-10 diehards still hoping for a miracle (that's us) and a similar amount on your facebook site's saying racing is as good as anywhere in the UK. You're right though that we average 850-1000 but those people that do still go can't be just put down as being happy with what is on offer (personally, I would consider most are likely to have just not decided to stop going yet). That would clearly be conjecture on my part but what isn't conjecture is the fact that we started with crowds of 2000-2500 for most the first year and in 3 years we lost 60% of the crowd, maybe as much as 80% for challenge matches.. Nearly all of those don't post about what racing is like anymore because they no longer give a monkeys about the sport. That's not great when you consider we have some of the most welcoming staff and one of the nicest environments to watch the sport in the UK. But if you just think it's 4 of us then hey, ho. Mick. What I am saying is mick that those that are happy don't post they find the forum a joke. We are never going to keep crowds of 2000 apart from the novelty factor which last night was one of them the sport just aint that popular. How many times do you here Speedway? I used to go to that but they wouldn't go now Edited March 30, 2014 by TMW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 What I am saying is mick that those that are happy don't post they find the forum a joke. We are never going to keep crowds of 2000 apart from the novelty factor which last night was one of them the sport just aint that popular. How many times do you here Speedway? I used to go to that but they wouldn't go now Without wanting to state the obvious but it might be a bit more popular if the joke track dimensions didn't produce such hopeless entertainment though. we've done this before, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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