WembleyLion Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 So in Kennett's case a PL challenge takes preference but not in Barker's case! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I totally agree with you Eddie. I'm finding it harder to justify spending money on speedway these days, weakened line ups, stupid rules and a race format that will take a few weeks to get used to, and the season has only just begun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 So in Kennett's case a PL challenge takes preference but not in Barker's case! Same for Panthers, we are missing Blackbird and Jacobs (both EL fixtures tonight) whilst Kennett and Lambert are riding for Rye in a CH rather than Brum in an EL fixture, its bloody ridiculous, either official fixtures take precedence or they dont. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Same for Panthers, we are missing Blackbird and Jacobs (both EL fixtures tonight) whilst Kennett and Lambert are riding for Rye in a CH rather than Brum in an EL fixture, its bloody ridiculous, either official fixtures take precedence or they dont. depends on who signed them 1st as they get priority if there not respective assetts of those clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brumspur Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) Same for Panthers, we are missing Blackbird and Jacobs (both EL fixtures tonight) whilst Kennett and Lambert are riding for Rye in a CH rather than Brum in an EL fixture, its bloody ridiculous, either official fixtures take precedence or they dont. The Plymouth v Somerset challenge meeting also sees Barker released from Plymouth to ride for Brum tonight but Paul Starke not released by Somerset to ride for Brum in the same EL fixture? A catalogue of double up rider availability inconsistencies in just one evening of speedway! Edited March 29, 2014 by brumspur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 depends on who signed them 1st as they get priority if there not respective assetts of those clubs Irrespective of that, a league match should take priority over a challenge but in this enlightened age it seems that PL teams are having to give "special permission" for "their" d/u riders to appear in EL matches. Just another blow to the claims by some that the PL is the better league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 depends on who signed them 1st as they get priority if there not respective assetts of those clubs I always thought it was club asset first, then PL club 2nd if not asset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 It shouldn't matter who the rider is an asset of or who they signed for first, official fixtures should take precedence over challenge matches every single time, irrespective of league. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Benji Compton - Elite League rider! 'nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Benji Compton - Elite League rider! 'nuff said. Reserves aren't EL riders, that's the point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 So on the basis that Coventry own both Barker and Kennett then it seems the PL have first pick (whatever the fixture!!) and Plymouth were willing to release Barker for an official fixture but Rye House were not. I agree with virtually all of the above posts. I dread to think what we'll get on Good Friday - there won't be enough riders to go round! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Since when was Benji Compton in the draft? Or if a rider is mising can you use any NL rider as a guest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 So on the basis that Coventry own both Barker and Kennett then it seems the PL have first pick (whatever the fixture!!) and Plymouth were willing to release Barker for an official fixture but Rye House were not. I agree with virtually all of the above posts. I dread to think what we'll get on Good Friday - there won't be enough riders to go round! I dread to think what will happen if we get a lot of rain offs, there will be even more fixture clashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pedaler Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Reserves aren't EL riders, that's the point. The point is that this "Elite" League used to have Nicki Pedersen and Chris Holder...it now has Benji Compton and Daniel Halsey...two riders who are simple make-weights. They've been on the PL/NL circuit for the last 7-8 years. If they haven't "made it" in that time, they're not going to make it. No way are they Britains bright hopes, which is what the intention of the NL allocation in the teams were for. How much is the admission price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Benji Compton isn't even a decent national league rider.... probably the worst one out of the 'Elite' Picks. Still.... must be cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 The point is that this "Elite" League used to have Nicki Pedersen and Chris Holder...it now has Benji Compton and Daniel Halsey...two riders who are simple make-weights. They've been on the PL/NL circuit for the last 7-8 years. If they haven't "made it" in that time, they're not going to make it. No way are they Britains bright hopes, which is what the intention of the NL allocation in the teams were for. How much is the admission price? When the EL used to have Pedersen I once attended an EL meeting at Eastbourne with Nicki Pedersen at 1 while in reserve they had Tom Hedley and Tom Brown at 6 and 7. So by Eastbourne standards the reserves are only slightly weaker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 The point is that this "Elite" League used to have Nicki Pedersen and Chris Holder...it now has Benji Compton and Daniel Halsey...two riders who are simple make-weights. They've been on the PL/NL circuit for the last 7-8 years. If they haven't "made it" in that time, they're not going to make it. No way are they Britains bright hopes, which is what the intention of the NL allocation in the teams were for. How much is the admission price? We all know what the EL was and is. Yet it still contains the World Champion and 7 GP riders. The draft system wasn't perfect and i agree there are riders included that perhaps shouldn't be. But thank god the EL finally did something to help whilst the PL carry on employing foreigners to race in reserve berths. The point really is if 1 or 2 each year make significant progress then the next 5 years time could be brighter on the World stage. No idea what admission prices are for Eastbourne, but i`m sure they have a website to inform you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 We all know what the EL was and is. Yet it still contains the World Champion and 7 GP riders. The draft system wasn't perfect and i agree there are riders included that perhaps shouldn't be. But thank god the EL finally did something to help whilst the PL carry on employing foreigners to race in reserve berths. The point really is if 1 or 2 each year make significant progress then the next 5 years time could be brighter on the World stage. No idea what admission prices are for Eastbourne, but i`m sure they have a website to inform you. Atleast some of the foreigners have a bit of talent though, and add something to the league. Lets face it, 10% of the current 'reserves' will make it in the Elite League, the rest wont make the cut IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john birch Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I'm baffled why no one rates Eastbourne higher. A couple of pundits even rank them bottom but that team could pull in nearly 50 points out of Arlington fixtures this year. Birmingham don't look great but look weaker still tonight. Hope the weather is as good down there as it is here and the fans turn out with all the points money Uncle Bob will be paying Eagles riders! 64 - 30 to Eastbourne. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Atleast some of the foreigners have a bit of talent though, and add something to the league. Lets face it, 10% of the current 'reserves' will make it in the Elite League, the rest wont make the cut IMO. That`s debatable if they `add` anything to the league. IMHO our leagues should have ALL British reserves, that's the only way they will progress and so will our National chances for the future. I agree, only a few will make the step up. We all accept that. Its no difference to PL bringing in foreigner riders that mostly end up in the reserve berth once there assessed averages have been completed with a new one. You could say only 10% make the cut also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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