EnglishRoundabout Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Cheers Orlovski. Good point in the circumstances. Lakeside turning into a decent away track for us. Never thought I'd see that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 He came up against a better PK, no idea steve, it is no doubt that thr Swindon heatleaders were better than Lakesides but did expect him to do better than he did. Â Hopefully someone who went can give some info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted March 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 PK - the Hammers one that is - just looked totally under-powered tonight - probably the worst I have seen of him in Hammers' colours. Â From my viewpoint, I thought Lawson finished second in Heat 1 but Christina Turnbull saw it differently. It was a very good heat racing wise though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 PK - the Hammers one that is - just looked totally under-powered tonight - probably the worst I have seen of him in Hammers' colours. Â From my viewpoint, I thought Lawson finished second in Heat 1 but Christina Turnbull saw it differently. It was a very good heat racing wise though. Christina Turnbull sees a lot of things differently so no surprise there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Christina Turnbull sees a lot of things differently so no surprise there. I bet Rosco was "happy" when he saw who the ref was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Christina Turnbull sees a lot of things differently so no surprise there.You finished your spat with blueboy yet Crazy? Almost as entertaining as Steve0 and Crump99! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 What a comeback by the Robins. 11 points down after heat 8 and having used one double point ride. What is interesting is the diff scores of the 3 groups Heat Leaders L 17 SW 30 2nd strings L 18 SW 9 Reserves L 12 Sw 5 Â Killer stated Lakeside is not a track he likes but he came good against the other heat leaders. Troy and Nick did well. Our reserves were thrashed by the Lakeside reserves, but we were without Steve. Simon and Nicolai did ok. Â Swindon did ok on a small away track, getting one point is a bonus and if the reserves can improve, that will be good. Â Lakeside Pk 2,RL 9,DW 9,MB 9,LB 6,BM 6,AE 6 Â Swindon PK 13,NK 5,TB 11,SG 4,NM 6,DR 3,MW 2 Â Look at updates for full details. Interesting stats got to pick up on gustafsson you said he did alright he only beat the n.l riders I can c swindon really struggling away from home no back up at all on that form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Interesting stats got to pick up on gustafsson you said he did alright he only beat the n.l riders I can c swindon really struggling away from home no back up at all on that form. I accept what you say but after last years scores I was not expecting much from him on away tracks, apart from Eastbourne, so 4 is ok, would have preferred more obviously. It is at Swindon he should do better, but we will see. Â After a few meetings Swindon may need to look at the line up of the second strings. Edited March 28, 2014 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Think the scores of morris and gustaffson show how averages will be skewed this year. Morris had a 4-2 record against opposition heat leaders and 1-1 vs second strings to finish with 6 points. Gustaffson picked up 4 points by beating only nl reserve s. Edited March 28, 2014 by waihekeaces1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I accept what you say but after last years scores I was not expecting much from him on away tracks, apart from Eastbourne, so 4 is ok, would have preferred more obviously. It is at Swindon he should do better, but we will see. Â After a few meetings Swindon may need to look at the line up of the second strings. doesnt make any diference where they are tbh gustafsson should be doing much better than 4 he shud b getting 6/7 imo,you get 2 easy heats and 2hard should get min of 4 from easy heats then min of 2 from others.morris was a good performance 6+2 from number 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 No qualms about that one. Lakesides No1 flopped and Swindons top 2 didn't need a second invitation to pounce. The only consolation is that thanks to Morris Swindon didn't get an outright win. Lakesides PK was positively dreadful. Inexplicable . Morris' failure though can be explained by lack of a brain. Kildemand was on a t/r and had Bech under a lot of pressure when Morris somehow got between them and spent the next three laps blocking Killer, then worse still didn't let the Swindon PK pass him on the run in to the finish . Unbelievable. Morris was then gifted a paid win when Batch locked up and Lakesides PK bounced off him losing momentum and letting Morris through. Â I did think the draft riders did very well though and their races were far from the strung out affairs that the critics were predicting . In heat 9 Ben Morley took the lead coming of bend 2 lap 1 and was then under a lot of pressure from Ritchings for the whole race, while Ritchings in turn was under pressure from Ellis until Ellis tried too hard and fell off, Morely held on keeping a cool head under pressure for a close win. The Ellis went out and beat Kilindt. So much for the draft riders being miles behind. Â Can't believe how far backwards Gustafson has gone in the last 12 months. Can't see him lasting the season at this rate. In fact Swindon do seem to have a very long tail but were carried well by the top two.. For Lakeside it is starting to look like a long season. Â Hopefully someone who went can give some info. Â Steve if I told you how bad you probably wouldn't believe me. You have probably never seen him like this. Constantly poor off the gate then in the wrong place at the wrong time. I did hear it was machinery but I don't know for sure. He did look bad though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Â Â Steve if I told you how bad you probably wouldn't believe me. You have probably never seen him like this. Constantly poor off the gate then in the wrong place at the wrong time. I did hear it was machinery but I don't know for sure. He did look bad though. Â Thanks for the info. Hopefully he is just testing stuff for you guys. So unusual to hear of PK struggling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Gustafsson was a bit disappointing, but then again, Lakeside is hardly the best track to use as a form guide. Not a bad start to the season for us at all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowasthatberntpersson Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) Nice ride by Morris to keep Kilderman behind :-) Rosco ran to the start to tell Morris that Killer was on a TR, just ignored him! Killer well annoyed... In hindsight i'm not sure it was that easy. Edited March 29, 2014 by whowasthatberntpersson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Well done Ben Morley (paid 7 points). Well done Robins for coming back to get a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 For Lakeside it is starting to look like a long season. Â Â That might be said with the pessimism of a Hammers fan (and you were there, I wasn't) but I think you are wrong. The fact that you only just squeezed home was about the performance of one rider, and all the others could be satisfied with their performances - in the case of Lawson, Bech, Morley & Ellis, more than satisfied. Â You have certainly one of the best EL newcomers in Bech and one of the better reserve pairings, so its very far very a black outlook. Â PK is one of the most reliable and consistent EL riders and I have little doubt that this was just a one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 On paper a point is decent enough. In perspective, it's got to be a little concerning that we didn't take advantage of the home number 1 only scoring 2 points. Â Gustafsson score of net 0, along with the reserves only picking up gifts paints a picture of a potentially long season. On the flip side, the top 3 more than did their bit and may have to every match to keep us competitive on first showing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Good meeting with plenty of passing to start with although it appeared the track slickened off quite a bit towards the end but no surprise given the pounding it would have taken this week with several practice sessions taking place. I guess if there is any flaw with the Hammers it is the tendancy for one or two to have off nights, we saw that last season even with PK and Davey so the ability of this team will rest of how many of those bad days at the office can be avoided. Â People will say Lakeside let it slip but i think you have to credit Swindon a bit too, they maybe took a while to suss the place out but once they did they were better and only really their reserves and Gustafsson struggled. Â I think teams are likely to find it hard to win at the "Arena" and it would be nice to go through a season unbeaton at home, my man of match would be Richard Lawson, amazing to think a year ago i was concerned about his signing as a historically large track rider but he has taken to our track so well, maybe its in the blood? his dad always seemed to love our track when visiting back in his Glasgow days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Good fightback from the Robins to get a point, excellent from Killer, true number 1 performance. Gusto will go better at Blunsdon(I hope). Early days yet, but in recent meetings Swindon have won at Lakeside a few times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Good fightback from the Robins to get a point, excellent from Killer, true number 1 performance. Gusto will go better at Blunsdon(I hope). Early days yet, but in recent meetings Swindon have won at Lakeside a few times.  Looked like a heavy defeat was on the cards at one stage, but both Killer and Troy 'done good'..  Don't know what Morra was thinking in Killer's TR ride, I trust he's had to make breakfast for Rosco et al this morning.  Difficult to gauge anything so far, especially with PK only managing 2 points, though some heats looked somewhat unbalanced, eg Bech against the NL guys  Happy with a point though...and well done to young Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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