PolskiZuzel Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 According to the news circulating today in Poland, Warsaw National Stadium, will be the venue for the April 2015 round of SGP. PZM and BSI talks have been finalised and what is only needed is the signatures at the bottom of the agreement document. The news met with disapproval of Polish fans, who believes that the PZM and its chairman, Mr Andrzej Witkowski, is acting like the ousted president Janukovych of Ukraine, totally living in unreal world, and out of touch with Polish speedway followers. There are even voices calling for the organized boycott of the Warsaw round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 My god you guys are never happy?! Sounds like a fantastic venue for a GP in Poland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) What Polski means is the news was met with disapproval from One Sport. Remember he has been telling us that no Polish venues want to stage GP's. And again, as you can see already Onesport through their various spokespeople, whom this guy is clearly one off is already looking to organise a boycott. You have to remember, OneSport is backed by the Torun owners. The Torun owners who tried to run roughshod over the sport and set their own rules last season. The PZM didn't allow that.. so not only are they targeting BSI, the PZM is also in their line of fire. Essentially they are making efforts to take over the whole sport. It will be a sad sad day for the sport should that happen. Edited March 11, 2014 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 You have to remember, OneSport is backed by the Torun owners. The Torun owners who tried to run roughshod over the sport and set their own rules last season. The PZM didn't allow that.. so not only are they targeting BSI, the PZM is also in their line of fire. BSI may also have dropped their demands for the Warsaw GP in order to ensure the PZM continues to support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 What Polski means is the news was met with disapproval from One Sport. Remember he has been telling us that no Polish venues want to stage GP's. And again, as you can see already Onesport through their various spokespeople, whom this guy is clearly one off is already looking to organise a boycott. How could you possibly know what I meant? As I keep saying to ALL of you. I am a speedway fan, just like you (I hope). Not anybody's spokesman. And I am NOT TELLING you, but merely inform you what the Polish speaking opinion says/thinks. If you prefer scanning everything is being said over there, translate it through the Google machine, fine with me. Do it, if it helps you to understand complexity of others thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 BSI may also have dropped their demands for the Warsaw GP in order to ensure the PZM continues to support them. That may be the case, but nothing out of order there is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 In there report sportowe fakty are running a poll on those for or against a gp in Warsaw. At present 43% for and 57% against so not exactly one sided against a Gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 In there report sportowe fakty are running a poll on those for or against a gp in Warsaw. At present 43% for and 57% against so not exactly one sided against a Gp Have you gone through more than 100 commentaries? I could hardly see one positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Have you gone through more than 100 commentaries? I could hardly see one positive. No I didn't but the vote was about 1300 people at the time I looked and it is now 45% for 55% against with 2319 voted. I do think it is a lot of money being quoted for two years though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 No I didn't but the vote was about 1300 people at the time I looked and it is now 45% for 55% against with 2319 voted. I do think it is a lot of money being quoted for two years though I don't think any normal Polish fans are in the slightest bit concerned with how much Warsaw have paid to host the GP. Don't forget that figure is in Zlotys, not pounds. So its about £296,000 to £390,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 MORE propaganda from our Polish friends but have said before that PZM are desperate to have a SGP (not an SEC!) at their national stadium like the Danes and Swedes and Brits (the Millennium is our adopted home)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 MORE propaganda from our Polish friends but have said before that PZM are desperate to have a SGP (not an SEC!) at their national stadium like the Danes and Swedes and Brits (the Millennium is our adopted home)... But no need to counter with some propaganda from the other side!!! Cardiff isn't our national stadium and i thought parken was being used this year because of the DMU jubilee otherwise it would have been dropped? It is good news though with Warsaw.No need to go ott and no real need to take much notice of a poll on sportowefakty.The Poles are moaners just like a lot of speedway fans.They were talking about a boycott when the new silencers came in......and even if just 45% of Polish fans turn up then the stadium will be full i'd guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) MORE propaganda from our Polish friends but have said before that PZM are desperate to have a SGP (not an SEC!) at their national stadium like the Danes and Swedes and Brits (the Millennium is our adopted home)... It's not propaganda, and it's not the PZM who are desperate to have a SGP on their National Stadium. It is its chairman who is desperate to win a place for himself in Geneva. Edited March 11, 2014 by PolskiZuzel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 So its about £296,000 to £390,000 If that's over two years, isn't that a fair bit less than what they got out of Gorzow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 If that's over two years, isn't that a fair bit less than what they got out of Gorzow? Maybe so yes, I was answering someone who was saying too much was paid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I WOULDN'T put too much store in the figures being quoted here. No contracts signed as yet. But it does look as though it will happen. Not just that the PZM want it to materialise, the stadium are desperate for more events like many similar ones throughout Europe which although primarily for soccer are massively under-used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 How could you possibly know what I meant? As I keep saying to ALL of you. I am a speedway fan, just like you (I hope). Not anybody's spokesman. And I am NOT TELLING you, but merely inform you what the Polish speaking opinion says/thinks. If you prefer scanning everything is being said over there, translate it through the Google machine, fine with me. Do it, if it helps you to understand complexity of others thinking. An interesting comment. That's often the trouble with the BSF readership - a complete lack of understanding. The example - you quote and post a mesage. That's all. Then "the gang" jump in and attack one for what has been said, completely misunderstanding the origination of what has been said. They fail to grasp that old idiom "don't shoot me. I am only the messenger." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 How could you possibly know what I meant? As I keep saying to ALL of you. I am a speedway fan, just like you (I hope). Not anybody's spokesman. And I am NOT TELLING you, but merely inform you what the Polish speaking opinion says/thinks. I think that's appreciated. Certainly my own responses to your posts are addressed in a generic sense. I must say that I don't like the way this SGP vs SEC is being made into a British-Polish thing though, ostensibly being whipped up by the OneSport propaganda machine. If there's concerns with BSI and how they run the SGP then that's one matter, but it has nothing to do with British speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 An interesting comment. That's often the trouble with the BSF readership - a complete lack of understanding. The example - you quote and post a mesage. That's all. Then "the gang" jump in and attack one for what has been said, completely misunderstanding the origination of what has been said. They fail to grasp that old idiom "don't shoot me. I am only the messenger." If you read some of his earlier posts you will see his stance. He's now trying to hide behind his 'messanger' cloak, whilst still pumping the OneSport propaganda into the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krompa Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Great news to have GP in Warsaw! Finally. And it is going to be last GP for Tomasz Gollob which will make it great evening for sure. Good job BSI this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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