superguest Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I get the impression he is either being led finanically or hes just lost a bit of his apetite for speedway. Hes riden for quite a few years now and is still only 24? Maybe a year out of the GP's is what he believes will enable a fresher approach. He obviously doesn't want to do it unless hes 100% able to compete & in a position to make some money out of it. Unfortunately, there isnt the kind of money floating around in Speedway to pay these guys what they are truely worth. Riders like Emil don't come around often, so I hope he returns in 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) No we don't as we are not them. We have no idea at all what they would do if they were in the SGP and faced with these situations. You speak for yourself like the rest of us and anything you say is simply opionion just like anyone else. If you think the costs then are comparable to the cost now and that the way the WC operated similar then that's fine but I disagree. And the lads are not paupers (and I never claimed they were just to be clear) but that does not mean they do this as a form of charity anymore than Mauger and Briggs did. And you believed that? Yes WE DO. As they have told us in various interviews and books. History has also told us. Riders have NEVER earned much money from World Championship rounds, so don't try and rewrite history and suggest that they did. There is one GP outside Europe. All riders expenses are covered for it. The old World Championship meant 4 or 5 meetings, most of which were usually in your own backyard and only once was the final held outside of Europe. The SGP is clearly a much bigger commitment. And the GP's aren't in their own backyard? There is one round outside Europe, riders expenses are covered. This has all got absolutely nothing to do with finances, injuries or anything else. It's quite simply Emil's employers, the utterly corrupt owners of Torun and backers of One Sport, hellbent on running the sport their way using Emil as a pawn. The poor lad's World Championship ambitions being sacrificed. Emil Sayfutdinov have decided not to ride for the World Championship’s title telling us that his decision was caused by the financial problems. Krzysztof Cegielski, who should still be remembered by fans at Poole is telling fans in Poland that if he was still a rider and had a choice to ride or not to ride for the world title he would definitely choose to ride. The reason? He says there are more than a few. A rider can still count on three or even four times more money from sponsors than usual. Secondly riding in the GP’s translates to a larger contracts in the league. Thirdly, if not most important, it is the prestige that comes with being the SGP rider.. Even the lesser riders taking part in the SGP are perceived differently from others. We are hearing riders complaints that GPs doesn’t pay sufficiently but cost an earth. Cegielski agrees with that but at the same time points out that to a fact that a few years ago there were no complaints. A coin always have two sides to it. The problem is – as Cegielski sees it – that Polish League began to pay even more and that made the riders to complain about GPs rates. When it comes to expenses, Cegielski admits that they are huge, but like in everyday life there is always room to be more frugal. There is no need to book 5 star hotels for 3 days before an event, etc., No one knows the real reason for Emil’s withdrawal from the SGP, but if Cegielski had a choice he would do everything in his power not to give up and line up with other 15 riders to chase his ultimate dream. Wise words from Cegielski. Edited March 5, 2014 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I do not believe its anything to do with fitness as there are conflicting articles on the speedway.gp website. Whatever caused the decision its a kick in the plums for the gp series. Thursday 27th February 2014, 14:39 Emil Sayfutdinov’s manager Tomasz Suskiewicz says the Russian is “fit and ready” to bounce back from the injuries which derailed his World Championship charge last year. The 24-year-old finished sixth in the final standings, but did not compete in the last three rounds after a crash at Torun left him with season-ending elbow and knee ligament damage. Sayfutdinov was just three points behind eventual world champ Tai Woffinden at the time of his spill in a Polish Ekstraliga play-off semi-final and will be determined to get back on the medal rostrum for the first time since 2009. The Salavat-born star underwent surgery and physiotherapy at a Spanish clinic in a bid to get back to his best. And Suskiewicz says the rider is ready for the season-opening New Zealand SGP in Auckland on April 5. He said: “Emil is really good. He’s fit and ready. Emil is doing everything to get himself ready for this season. He’s doing motocross and he’s in the gym. “We hope to go testing on March 3, 4 and 5. We’re going to be on track and if the weather stays like it is, we will do that in Poland. The weather there has been fantastic, to be honest. “If anything changes, then we will go to Croatia. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 No we don't as we are not them. We have no idea at all what they would do if they were in the SGP and faced with these situations. You speak for yourself like the rest of us and anything you say is simply opionion just like anyone else. If you think the costs then are comparable to the cost now and that the way the WC operated similar then that's fine but I disagree. And the lads are not paupers (and I never claimed they were just to be clear) but that does not mean they do this as a form of charity anymore than Mauger and Briggs did. And you believed that? NO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) And the GP's aren't in their own backyard? There is one round outside Europe, riders expenses are covered. The SGP is 2-3 times more meetings than if a rider did the old WC and reached the Final. For a British rider, 3 or 4 of those rounds would generally be in Britain, and even for Scandinavian and Continental riders the earlier rounds were relatively regionalised. We all know that the old WC didn't pay much, but there was much less of financial commitment needed, especially if you weren't successful and went out. The SGP is probably okay for the riders at the top end who can pull in decent sponsors, but it's long been known that it's a marginal existence for those in the lower echelons. The bottom line is that regardless of what OneSport's intentions actually are, the SEC wouldn't even get a look in if there's wasn't some disgruntlement among riders about what they're getting out of the SGP. Agree that OneSport seem like a cowboy outfit though, not that I'm any fan of BSI either... Edited March 5, 2014 by Humphrey Appleby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Any link between One Sport complaining about Tai letting them down in not riding SEC in 2014 (not sure he did let them down considering their promotion of the Rzeszow round last year) and the following day Emil not riding in GP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Any link between One Sport complaining about Tai letting them down in not riding SEC in 2014 (not sure he did let them down considering their promotion of the Rzeszow round last year) and the following day Emil not riding in GP? I wasn't aware of this 'bleating' from One Sport over Tai. How exactly do they claim he has let them down? You are right, the way they acted last season regarding Tai was unprofessional in the extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Fully agree with what's reportedly been said by Ciegelski on previous posting. Costs can easily be cut by riders but they always seem to follow the pack mentality - if he's doing that then I'd better as well. Huge motorhomes, luxury hotels, several mechanics, manager, physic coach, 3 brand new bikes, 4 different helmets - none of these thinsg are necessary but the riders choose to have them. Emil is the one missing out in my view, similarly the WC has not featured Grig Laguta who is another that would liven up the series and more than capable of winning GPs - their choice. Good luck to those in it who deserve to be in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Think Emil has taken some very poor advice on this matter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Think Emil has taken some very poor advice on this matter. I doubt if its 'advice' to be honest. More like 'You will do this'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I wasn't aware of this 'bleating' from One Sport over Tai. How exactly do they claim he has let them down? You are right, the way they acted last season regarding Tai was unprofessional in the extreme. Google translation of Sportowefakty article Company One Sport is disappointed with the decision Tai Woffinden , who did not start in the cycle of the SEC. - Had disappointed us especially the way we found out - admits John Konikiewicz . Michael Wachowski : Tai Woffinden said in an interview with SportoweFakty.pl that will not start in the SEC. Have you previously contacted the One Sport in this case? John Konikiewicz : No, we really know about the declaration of an interview he gave to the state portal . Case Woffinden looked like that when autumn we proposed the "wild card " Jonssonowi , Gollobowi and Sajfutdinowowi , it also offered him . Tai did not say if "no" , but explained that there is no fixed schedule yet the English league that he had explained the matter of the contract in the UK and due to changes in the league did not know where he stands . We gave ourselves the time and agreed to return to the subject later, even after the elimination. What happened next? - Tai then signed a contract in Sweden, but remember his last year's words that repeatedly : the more starts , the better for me . He asserted that for him is something suitable , when every Saturday is occupied by the speedway . His last statement is for us all the more incomprehensible that in July , when there will be two rounds of the SEC , there will be games Enea Extraleague . The fourth round will take place while in September , when the fight for the championship will remain just four Polish team. It's not a big setback , from our point of view. It seems , therefore, that it is a change of mind about one hundred and eighty degrees ... - For me personally, is a very big job , personally , but I think I can speak also on behalf of all the organizers of the SEC, the representatives of the One Sport - this is for us a very big disappointment . Dissapoint especially the way we found out . It just does not. We remember how much effort it cost us to Tai started in the SEC last season. We talked then of BSPA , intervened in his case and helped him on matters relating to visas or notorious " moto - trip" so he could reach in time to Togliatti , without leaving Friday's league match England . Many repeated that it was impossible, and we were able to accomplish this . We have tried as much as we could , that all things he was able to sort out . Taia The decision is all the more incomprehensible that the main argument of resignation gave just too many starts. I suspect that the people around him would confirm that this is a player who likes and needs the participation of a large number of professions. Such an explanation so I simply do not buy . - Had disappointed us especially the way we found out . It just does not do - explains the decision Woffinden Konikiewicz Is therefore resignation Tai Woffinden may have a hidden agenda ? - I do not know , there is nothing to give rise to conspiracy theories. Tai as the current world champion can do more and it would be good if they supported any ideas to promote slag , especially since we never heard from him that he would not want to go to the SEC. I think we all remember our common talk in Russia or Gorican , where it touched its possible incompatibility competing in the SEC and the SGP . Tai said then that for sure it will not agree , moreover, that will seek provision in the contract with the club would not have any problems and get relief from league to contest the IME . We also talked about the decision of the British Speedway Best Pairs Cup . He did not like that you will not be able to compete in these competitions . Woffinden not see so neither Speedway Best Pairs Cup, or cycle the SEC. This loss by the fact that it is the Individual World Champion . - When it comes to cycle the Best Pairs Cup , everyone is already expecting this , it was not a surprise. Maybe in the future the British experience in these professions , but it's hard to judge whether it is in any sense to invite them to participate in any form. As for the SEC, it can be said that the issue of granting of "wild card " is finally closed. When Tai expresses interest start in the SEC, of course, invite him to eliminate , but a permanent place certainly can not. We do not know how it will look in a few years , now we welcome him, and maybe in a few years you will find that he needs us . So far we had yet with Woffinden good relationship , we know not from today . It may happen in the future opportunity to about the case to talk to him , but emphasize once again that we are disappointed. One Sport Does the company have started to reflect on who you are in the cycle in place Woffinden ? Among the fans the idea that he could get her one of the Polish , promising players. - As we said earlier, we want to give a chance to prove to everyone in the qualifying rounds . Other players admit card only after their completion. At the moment we exclude it , anyone can get it earlier. Is the qualifying will have to demonstrate to the Andreas Jonsson ? - I would not be on this for the moment to speak , but do not take into account the fact that AJ had to compete in the qualifying rounds . At the March 10 meeting is scheduled on the line One Sport - FIM . Do you count the fact that it will bring a breakthrough ? - Everything is changing so fast that his thoughts to next Monday has not yet run out . At the moment we are preparing to go to the Swedish Eskilstuna , where he held a press conference related to the Speedway Best Pairs Cup . Will be announced on the representation of Sweden at the entire cycle , including the season opening event 28 March in Torun. I have a very tight schedule to start in the SEC - Interview with Taiem Woffinden , player Betardu Sparta Wroclaw On Saturday in Wroclaw track test drives took place individual world champion - Tai Woffinden . In an interview with the portal SportoweFakty.pl Briton revealed that he will not start in the next edition of the SEC. more 515 Speedway on March 2 , 10:12 | When it comes to meeting with the FIM , we're waiting for is primarily what will be their position on this issue , because the last few weeks and months have shown that the ratio of the SEC is very variable . At the beginning we need to get an offer from them , and only then will we be able to talk about it. Our position on this is clear, and the postponement of the ban until 2015 in any case we are not satisfied . We are pleased that in the context of the current season , but we have to think about our long-term projects . We do not want to struggle every year and change arrangements , the more that we never know what can prepare the other side . As you can see , some are very determined and will do everything to us weary life , but history has shown more than once that he who lives by the sword , dies by the sword . 'll Settle this matter before the end of the season in 2014 , so as not to drag this on forever. In a recent interview you stated that the position on the ban did not take the BSI . But it seems that this action FIM persuade the British company to ensure that the resolution has been suspended. - From what I know , in writing , which received all the continental federations are the words that it is a decision taken at the request of the BSI . On the one hand it is good that someone went to his senses . On the other hand , however, you can see who is the initiator of all this , if only the voice , turned the card. I think it is a good topic for lawyers, and they also have this in mind , because there was an obvious favoritism of one entity relative to the other , without any reason arising from existing contracts , or regulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Now compare BSI's attitude to Sayfutdinov and One Sports to Woffinden. BSI don't slag Emil off.. even though he had signed an agreement with them. Woffinden signed no contract with SEC and decided not to compete, yet as can be seen above they once again are mouthing of in the press about their displeasure. They weren't so quick to run to the media last year when Woffinden had informed them he wouldn't be competing in the final round of the SEC. Just another example of lack of professionalism of the One Sport group. This isn't to say BSI are great, but in comparison they come across a lot more professional. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I doubt if its 'advice' to be honest. More like 'You will do this'. You could be right,I that case he has to start again on his terms and dump his management team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 You could be right,I that case he has to start again on his terms and dump his management team. Easier said than done.. "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" springs to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Maybe with everything combined Emil is doing the right thing for himself this season out of the GPs, he'll be back, good luck to him, sounds as though he needs it!!! Perhaps he'll have time to race a meeting or two over here ♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 To me, Sayfutdinov isn't in a great place emotionally right now. Last season he got injured and lost his chance for the world title, got stiffed financially by his main employer, whose income he must have budgeted into his outlay on equipment, staff, etc, and sadly lost his father, like Tai, he lost a man who was really influential in his life. Honestly, I don't blame him for having a year out, not sure this spat with FIM v FIM Europe had much to do with it. Good luck to him in 2014, a year where he is one of 5 heat leaders may give him the breathing space to get his head back together. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Google translation of Sportowefakty article Company One Sport is disappointed with the decision Tai Woffinden , who did not start in the cycle of the SEC. - Had disappointed us especially the way we found out - admits John Konikiewicz . I think you're right condemning OneSport on this occasion . For my money Mr Konikiewicz just jumped the gun and went to press "bleating" after reading sportowefakty.pl interview with Tain, which in translation came to this: sf : It's good to see you again in Wroclaw after winter break . You have just tested your five bikes on Wroclaw track. What are your impressions? Tai Woffinden : It was great . It was my first ride on a track for a long time The last time I rode it was in October last year in Czestochowa , after the Grand Prix in Torun. It was good to get on a bike , because during the winter break I did not ride on motocross or the minibikes. sf: For your first practice at Wroclaw you brought with you a lot of equipment, five bikes. Did everything worked reasonably well during the test ? TW - Everything was fine . I rode on the same bikes as the year before. In the season 2013 my bikes were doing well , so there was no need to change anything . sf: How did you spend last two months. I've heard that you were on a skiing holidays and also flew to Australia. TW - That's right. I went skiing with my girlfriend Faye . Shortly after winning the world championship I had to spend a lot of time for newspaper interviews, websites and television. In the last two months I had a lot of them and in the end I felt a bit tired. Then all went quiet and I decided to take my girlfriend for two weeks skiing holiday. And after that we flew to Australia for five weeks. sf: On vacation? TW: - Yes, but Australia is my home , so I was meeting mainly with friends . It was really cool. Together with my girlfriend I played tennis and swam . Then we returned to Europe , and again went skiing for two weeks. We were skiing mostly in the morning and in the evening I was busy in the gym. Then I came to England and continued to prepare for the season. sf: What are your plans before the Grand Prix in Auckland? Will you be staying here in Wroclaw and take part in your team match preactices or will you go back to the UK ? TW- To be honest, I do not know yet . For the season opening it is still some days . I will have to ride in a few test- matches in England. If I get a chance to come to Poland and test my hardware , I will most likely do that it . I’ve done my practice rides today and will them again tomorrow, on Sunday.. I think that after these two days I will know much more regarding my equipment. sf: Not so long ago, the FIM has decided that speedway riders taking part in the Grand Prix can not take part in the European Championships . Now, the ban has been suspended for a year. Will you, therefore, want to ride in the SEC ? TW - I have a very busy schedule. Once again, I want to focus on the World Championships and see if I can defend the title. Everyone is saying that it is relatively easy to win a series , but it is definitely more difficult to defend it. It will be another challenge for me . In the new season, I will ride again in Sweden, Poland , UK and the Grand Prix. Thus it will be great to have free those weekends when the SEC rounds will be held. sf: Finally may I ask you about the colour of your bikes. Will they stay black colour or are you planning any changes? - I do not plan any changes. Everything will be the same as the year before Edited March 5, 2014 by PolskiZuzel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Thanks for that PolskiZuzel, good read & appreciated. There's a couple of comments in there to get the forum BNP going Edited March 5, 2014 by screamer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-D Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 It's a shame he has pulled out but if he feels he cannot compete both physically, mentally and mechanically for what works out as 1/4 of the weekends a year at the highest level then he has been very sensible. Why ruin a career for a short term gamble. His type of injuries often it hurts more the day after riding / exercise so practice on a Friday, GP Saturday and Poland on a Sunday I bet his body is spent. Big respect to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Much appreciated PolskiZuzel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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