Sayfutdinov Out Of Gp's

[Haza]

Good luck to Emil he will be missed in the GP series for sure but I for one don't blame him doing what he has done he's chosen the route that should earn him more money with a lot less hassle he's freed up 10 Fridays and 10 Saturdays for starters he's also freed up 7 days minimum going to New Zealand he has saved a large amount of money in travel expecies also another large amount of money in hotels - he is now free to race on those 10 vacant weekends else where . I agree with what one or two others have posted if IMG /BSI don't act up prize money cut out the Friday practice maybe there will be others that will walk away from the GP also perhaps before New Zealand if not before then 2015 GP line up will be very very different .

IMG /BSI need to look at why SEC seem so vital to certain riders , SEC is here it's going know where .

They need to act and fast .

Edited March 4, 2014 by Haza

[PolskiZuzel]

I regret to inform the fans that I will not start in Grand Prix in 2014. My decision was taken because of huge financial problems, lack of more Russian sponsors support, also lack of contract in Russian league and lack of interest from Russian federation side. Unfortunately I am still in many debts after last season. Having in my mind not fixed financial issues here in Poland, I am not able to prepare correctly for starts in GP and compete on satisfied me level. Many bad things have been happened lately around me what influenced on my preparations for individual world championship rivalry for sure. At this moment of my career I need a break to re-build everything, so it could come back on the right ways. I want to add that I don't hold any grudge against anybody regarding my decision which I had to take. Sometimes one step has to be taken back to take two forward. I have been waiting so long with the final decission as I believed most of issues would end differently. I would like to thank BSI and FIM not to hold me responsibles. I have started in Grand Prix for 5 years. I want to thank for support so far. Thanks for all who helped me to existence in GP tournament and who support me now during this difficult for me time. The title of individual world champion is still my big dream but I am not able to compete this year. I am not saying „goodbye” but „see you”.

 

 

http://emilracing.com/index.php?j=EN

 

 

I regret to inform the fans that I will not start in Grand Prix in 2014. My decision was taken because of huge financial problems, lack of more Russian sponsors support, also lack of contract in Russian league and lack of interest from Russian federation side. Unfortunately I am still in many debts after last season. Having in my mind not fixed financial issues here in Poland, I am not able to prepare correctly for starts in GP and compete on satisfied me level. Many bad things have been happened lately around me what influenced on my preparations for individual world championship rivalry for sure. At this moment of my career I need a break to re-build everything, so it could come back on the right ways. I want to add that I don't hold any grudge against anybody regarding my decision which I had to take. Sometimes one step has to be taken back to take two forward. I have been waiting so long with the final decission as I believed most of issues would end differently. I would like to thank BSI and FIM not to hold me responsibles. I have started in Grand Prix for 5 years. I want to thank for support so far. Thanks for all who helped me to existence in GP tournament and who support me now during this difficult for me time. The title of individual world champion is still my big dream but I am not able to compete this year. I am not saying „goodbye” but „see you”.

[SCB]

Good luck to Emil he will be missed in the GP series for sure but I for one don't blame him doing what he has done he's chosen the route that should earn him more money with a lot less hassle he's freed up 10 Fridays and 10 Saturdays for starters he's also freed up 7 days minimum going to New Zealand he has saved a large amount of money in travel expecies also another large amount of money in hotels - he is now free to race on those 10 vacant weekends else where . I agree with what one or two others have posted if IMG /BSI don't act up prize money cut out the Friday practice maybe there will be others that will walk away from the GP also perhaps before New Zealand if not before then 2015 GP line up will be very very different .

IMG /BSI need to look at why SEC seem so vital to certain riders , SEC is here it's going know where .

They need to act and fast .

The GP and SEC pay about the same. So it's not a money thing there. Emil wont be able to race 24 hours either side of a GP anywhere now as he has withdrawn form the GP after signing entry to the GPs. So i hope Torun don't have any league meetings the day after any GP meetings.

 

I regret to inform the fans that I will not start in Grand Prix in 2014. My decision was taken because of huge financial problems, lack of more Russian sponsors support, also lack of contract in Russian league and lack of interest from Russian federation side. Unfortunately I am still in many debts after last season. Having in my mind not fixed financial issues here in Poland, I am not able to prepare correctly for starts in GP and compete on satisfied me level. Many bad things have been happened lately around me what influenced on my preparations for individual world championship rivalry for sure. At this moment of my career I need a break to re-build everything, so it could come back on the right ways. I want to add that I don't hold any grudge against anybody regarding my decision which I had to take. Sometimes one step has to be taken back to take two forward. I have been waiting so long with the final decission as I believed most of issues would end differently. I would like to thank BSI and FIM not to hold me responsibles. I have started in Grand Prix for 5 years. I want to thank for support so far. Thanks for all who helped me to existence in GP tournament and who support me now during this difficult for me time. The title of individual world champion is still my big dream but I am not able to compete this year. I am not saying „goodbye” but „see you”.

 

 

http://emilracing.com/index.php?j=EN

 

 

I regret to inform the fans that I will not start in Grand Prix in 2014. My decision was taken because of huge financial problems, lack of more Russian sponsors support, also lack of contract in Russian league and lack of interest from Russian federation side. Unfortunately I am still in many debts after last season. Having in my mind not fixed financial issues here in Poland, I am not able to prepare correctly for starts in GP and compete on satisfied me level. Many bad things have been happened lately around me what influenced on my preparations for individual world championship rivalry for sure. At this moment of my career I need a break to re-build everything, so it could come back on the right ways. I want to add that I don't hold any grudge against anybody regarding my decision which I had to take. Sometimes one step has to be taken back to take two forward. I have been waiting so long with the final decission as I believed most of issues would end differently. I would like to thank BSI and FIM not to hold me responsibles. I have started in Grand Prix for 5 years. I want to thank for support so far. Thanks for all who helped me to existence in GP tournament and who support me now during this difficult for me time. The title of individual world champion is still my big dream but I am not able to compete this year. I am not saying „goodbye” but „see you”.

So it's not because BSI/the FIM is bad then? Well that ruins that little theory. On the other had he has financial issues due to money owed to him in Poland? Yet British Speedway is the joke? How often do you hear of riders being owed money in the UK?

[YerRopes]

Don't really know why some are castigating Emil for this decision - is it sadly just for their own entertainment value ?

 

I will certainly miss Emil in this year's GPs but ultimately his decision just illustrates the mess that the sport of Speedway is in.

 

However, whoever wins the GPs in 2014 will be a worthy winner

[HenryW]

The GP and SEC pay about the same. So it's not a money thing there. Emil wont be able to race 24 hours either side of a GP anywhere now as he has withdrawn form the GP after signing entry to the GPs. So i hope Torun don't have any league meetings the day after any GP meetings.

It will be interesting to see if the FIM enforce that.

 

 

So it's not because BSI/the FIM is bad then? Well that ruins that little theory. On the other had he has financial issues due to money owed to him in Poland? Yet British Speedway is the joke? How often do you hear of riders being owed money in the UK?

Quite often, actually...It's just that it isn't anywhere near the amount that they are owed in Poland as they get promised far more over there

 

Edited to fix the mess I made of quoting earlier

Edited March 5, 2014 by HenryW

[Daniel Smith]

Don't really know why some are castigating Emil for this decision - is it sadly just for their own entertainment value ?

 

I will certainly miss Emil in this year's GPs but ultimately his decision just illustrates the mess that the sport of Speedway is in.

 

However, whoever wins the GPs in 2014 will be a worthy winner

 

Agree, he certainly isn't the first World class rider to disappear from the sport because of finances and won't be the last (I know he's not completely gone but his statement suggests it's close) and I really hope the lad can switch it around. We all forget he lost his old man last year and rode through it. We know how it fried Woffy but with Emil he'd also had financial difficulties to deal with. Losing his hero, financial trouble & outside influences chomping in his ear would make anyone reevaluate their circumstances.

 

Also, any rider finishing top of the chasing 15 is well worth a World title every time.

[PHILIPRISING]

Where has he said he is injured its only the "SGP Website quoting that" to me it's total bollocks be interesting to see how many pull out of the 2015 world title unless IMG get there finger out and sort the problem out

HAVEN'T actually seen his letter but understand the context centres around his fitness ... or rather lack of it.

True. FIM/BSI have to face the fact they are not going to control everyone and everything anymore. BSI started this bloody war but did they win anything?

GET your facts right. BSI didn't start any war.

Good luck to Emil he will be missed in the GP series for sure but I for one don't blame him doing what he has done he's chosen the route that should earn him more money with a lot less hassle he's freed up 10 Fridays and 10 Saturdays for starters he's also freed up 7 days minimum going to New Zealand he has saved a large amount of money in travel expecies also another large amount of money in hotels - he is now free to race on those 10 vacant weekends else where . I agree with what one or two others have posted if IMG /BSI don't act up prize money cut out the Friday practice maybe there will be others that will walk away from the GP also perhaps before New Zealand if not before then 2015 GP line up will be very very different .

IMG /BSI need to look at why SEC seem so vital to certain riders , SEC is here it's going know where .

They need to act and fast .

RIDERS' air fares and hotel accommodation for New Zealand is provided free of charge by BSI. And, of course, he will lose the $12,000 that all 15 permanent riders are paid prior to the opening round. Prize money is determined by the FIM. It is actually the riders who insist on Friday practice.

[SteveLyric2]

So despite his fitness issues, will Emil still compete in SEC and Euro Best Pairs events - which start on 28th March??????????

[PHILIPRISING]

ACTUALLY agree with a Twitter comment by Darcy Ward that Emil's withdrawal might have more to do with his manager Susi than the rider himself. Susi has been around the SGP scene for a long time, firstly with Tony Rickardsson and then as mechanic-cum-manager with Emil. Perhaps he is tired of it all and fancies less travel and work and time away from his family in Bydgoszcz. It is Susi who has got Emil in hot water over his protracted loan move from Czestochowa to Torun which has still to be satisfactorily resolved.

 

Of course, Emil should be man enough to make his own decisions but many suspect he is not. Would love to see Rickardsson get involved and tell Emil that he is sacrificing a wonderful talent.

 

When Emil originally booked his flights to NZ he upgraded all four of his tickets at his own expense. No sign of financial difficulty there.

[HenryW]

Agree, he certainly isn't the first World class rider to disappear from the sport because of finances and won't be the last (I know he's not completely gone but his statement suggests it's close) and I really hope the lad can switch it around. We all forget he lost his old man last year and rode through it. We know how it fried Woffy but with Emil he'd also had financial difficulties to deal with. Losing his hero, financial trouble & outside influences chomping in his ear would make anyone reevaluate their circumstances.

It's an interesting scenario. Obviously the financial problems have been caused by his Polish club's disgraceful attitude towards the sad events of last year and their attempts to save some money out of them.

 

I do worry about those advising Emil at the moment whilst he allegedly looks to stabilise the financial position he has been put into by Polish speedway. From all that we know about his past, it is hard to imagine that his Father would have advised him to take the path that he is apparently taking this season and I hope that Emil doesn't live to regret following the advice that he is now receiving.

 

I could now be flippant and mention that it isn't the first time in recent years that a major SGP contender has decided to step back from the series due to their Polish club, but I am not sure that anyone else has the same regard for PePe as I have

Edited March 5, 2014 by HenryW

[mikebv]

(quote) The GP and SEC pay about the same. So it's not a money thing there. Emil wont be able to race 24 hours either side of a GP anywhere now as he has withdrawn form the GP after signing entry to the GPs. So i hope Torun don't have any league meetings the day after any GP meetings.

 

So it's not because BSI/the FIM is bad then? Well that ruins that little theory. On the other had he has financial issues due to money owed to him in Poland? Yet British Speedway is the joke? How often do you hear of riders being owed money in the UK?(quote)

 

ahem...

 

probably best to stay away from that analogy..

 

as mentioned before the significant difference in the amount of cash means less of a 'kick off' from the riders as they know they will 'eventually' get their money..

 

isn't a 'bond' paid each season to ensure money is available should a track hit difficulty in paying? maybe poland (if they dont already) should do the same?

 

as for emil, good luck to him, he has made his decision and I hope it goes well, however let's be clear he is riding in a 'mickey mouse' event in the SEC, with a good many third or even fourth rate riders, which is no where near the level of the SGP..

 

and as for 'devaluing' the world champions right to be called the best by his absence from the sgp this year? speedway is a sport that, as proved last year to emil and holder, can be decimated by injuries, therefore there is no guarantee that the same wouldnt happen this year and he would miss another few GP's?

 

Tai's achievement last year certainly wasnt devalued by emil (and other riders') not being able to attend every meeting..

 

It will be the same this year for whoever becomes the champion of the world..

 

 

Edited March 5, 2014 by mikebv

[RedcarRacer]

The SGP needs a round in Russia, as Phil R said they have tried too. If they can get at least one round there - that will help appease Emil with his sponsors. If they can get one leg in Russia, that would be huge.

[racers and royals]

This is a copy of a post I made in December-which explains some of Emil`s problems with Czestochowa.

 

 

Posted 13 December 2013 - 12:55 PM

Big row between Emil Satfutdinov and Czestochowa-Sportowefakty have published a letter from Emil to I understand not the club but the town(council) officals-Google translation so not in great English-however one can work out Emil was on the £ equivilent of £1500 per point plus signing on fee !!

 

 

Ladies and Gentlemen .

 

I decided to write to you the letter on the club speedway Włókniarz Czestochowa SA , because you are the only ones who can help me in my current situation, and I also know that several of you are fans of speedway .

 

As you know in December 2012 I decided to compete in the team Włókniarz after seven years in Bydgoszcz. Negotiations regarding the contract on behalf of the club led me Mr. Arthur Sukiennik sales director KJG Company, which is a sponsor of the club. He assured me together with people from the club in the person of Mr. Kowalski Mizgalskiego and that the club is a reliable partner and always governs all obligations with respect to competitors participating in the team Włókniarz .

 

Problems with current payments in relation to which my people , the club had been since May of this year. Many times I have met with Mr. Sukiennikiem , Mr. Mizgalskim and Mr. Kowalski on rising debt , and every time I ensured that I do not have to worry , because if you do during the season, that's for sure after the end of all arrears will be paid with respect to me . For Włókniarz season in 2013 won 174 points until 31.10.2013 club did not pay me for 123 points, and the amount of this stemmed what is 832 095 zł gross plus several installments of the amount to prepare for the season in the amount of 306 000 zł gross .

 

To help the club in its difficult situation after another meeting with my manager Mr. Mizgalskim and Mr. Kowalski and after telephone conversations with the wife of Lord Sukiennik , which is a proxy in the club , and he was at that time in custody , agreed that 400 000 zł gross will I be paid until the end of November 2013 , and the rest of the backlog was entered into the addendum to the contract and is to be paid by the end of July 2014.

 

Unfortunately , once again the club and those representing it failed to comply with the agreements concluded and until 12.12.2013 year on my account received only the amount of EUR 98 000 zł gross , informing me that he is trying to hard to repay indebtedness to my people what I have because I do not believe such assurances have heard many times.

 

Please understand me, this period is for me now very heavy. Season finished injury , which I referred at the track fighting for points for Włókniarz fall exclude me from further competition for the top trophies and took me the opportunity to continue to earn money.

 

Arrears terms of my mechanics and parts suppliers are the reason for me to frustration , because for the first time in my professional career, I am in such a situation.

 

I came to Włókniarz with high hopes and a great desire to fight for the best final result.

 

I enjoyed seeing the crowd so many fans for whom the ride was a huge

pleasure.

 

I felt the pride of being a leader of this team , earning her many meetings highest number of points , and with the highest average points per race .

 

Never, in the worst forecasts , did not suspect that at the end of the season I will face such a sad situation , as a result of which I will have to ask for your help.

 

I very much hope that you will be able to influence the peerage managers

club and after your intervention , finally something moves in my case , because my promises so far submitted by the board members and co-owners of the club turned out to be just empty words.

 

Hopefully I will expect a positive solution in my case.

 

Emil Sajfutdinow "

 

 

 

 

Further to my earlier post a PZM tribunal has been held and it looks as if Czestochowa can only fine Emil 100,000 Zlotys out of what they owed him.

Google translation of Sportowefakty article below

 

 

sitting on Tuesday in Warsaw, the Polish Association of Motor Court declined to Emil Sajfutdinowa penalty , which was imposed on him a club.

 

The Court reduced the penalty for PZM Emil Sajfutdinow , which was imposed on him Włókniarz Czestochowa . Recall that originally the Russian had to pay 200 thousand. Częstochowski club will be able to impose on Sajfutdinowa up to 100 thousand penalty . - The Court's role is primarily the role of conciliator and negotiator . He had to help find a compromise , not adjudge punishment. We were able to reach agreement consisting in the fact that we abandon the penalties that are morally questionable and were widely reported by the environment slag , or the absence of Emil during meetings with the Leszno and Unibaksem Torun . We maintained the position that it was filled with the player's certain procedures . The Court considered the amount of the penalties they have imposed in connection with the disclosure of trade secrets and breach of the image of the club. I am glad that we managed to reach a compromise . At the moment, I can honestly say that we acted a little under the influence of emotions related to the fact that they were disclosed details of the player's contract. This made ​​it difficult to talk us out of the city and sponsors. Sending a letter to the authorities of the city very hurt us . We could not understand how is it possible that when we fight for money , among other things for Sajfutdinowa appear that information - said the president Włókniarz - Paul Mizgalski .

 

Court PZM to March 11 is about to give a written judgment and justification in this case. Until March 12 is also to be signed loan agreement to Torun club. - I do not want to comment on the verdict of the Court. For me the most important is that the loan agreement will have to be signed, and I'll be able to from the beginning of the season represent Thorn club - said Emil Sajfutdinow .

 

With this turn of events has also president Unibaksu Torun . - For us, the penalty does not matter. The most important information is that Włókniarz will have to eventually sign a loan - for SportoweFakty.pl said Matthew Kurzawski .

 

Włókniarz acknowledges that the loan will be and ensure that this will happen before the start of the season. - We made up the fact that Emil will wear Unibaksie . There is no malice on our part , or difficulty driving him at the club . At the moment we have no problem in the form of a determination of the amount we have to pay the player. Therefore, there is nothing to prevent the sign loan agreement . I do not know when it will happen . Court according to me is not competent to show us a deadline for when we have to do it. For sure it will happen to the start of the season - ended Paul Mizgalski .

Edited March 5, 2014 by racers and royals

[waiheke1]

Isnt emil sponsored by red bull? You cant I imagine they, or his other sponsors (outside of russia?) Will be happy with this?

[Steve Shovlar]

Isnt emil sponsored by red bull? You cant I imagine they, or his other sponsors (outside of russia?) Will be happy with this?

Absolutely. Red Bull compete with Monster and I would be very surprised of they were very angry at this decision. I think they only have Hampel now as a sole representative in the GP series. wouldn't be surprised if another rider tried to contact Red Bull to tap up Emil's sponsorship deal for themselves.

 

Monster have Tai, Darcy and Chris on board compared to Hampel at Red Bull.

[SteveLyric2]

Absolutely. Red Bull compete with Monster and I would be very surprised of they were very angry at this decision. I think they only have Hampel now as a sole representative in the GP series. wouldn't be surprised if another rider tried to contact Red Bull to tap up Emil's sponsorship deal for themselves.

 

Monster have Tai, Darcy and Chris on board compared to Hampel at Red Bull.

Not forgetting Herbie Hancock too!!

 

IMO I don't believe the money owed by Czestochowa is the whole issue - this is another part of the One Sport/BSI tug of war!!!

[PolskiZuzel]

Emil Sayfutdinov have decided not to ride for the World Championship’s title telling us that his decision was caused by the financial problems.

Krzysztof Cegielski, who should still be remembered by fans at Poole is telling fans in Poland that if he was still a rider and had a choice to ride or not to ride for the world title he would definitely choose to ride.

The reason? He says there are more than a few. A rider can still count on three or even four times more money from sponsors than usual. Secondly riding in the GP’s translates to a larger contracts in the league. Thirdly, if not most important, it is the prestige that comes with being the SGP rider.. Even the lesser riders taking part in the SGP are perceived differently from others.

We are hearing riders complaints that GPs doesn’t pay sufficiently but cost an earth. Cegielski agrees with that but at the same time points out that to a fact that a few years ago there were no complaints. A coin always have two sides to it. The problem is – as Cegielski sees it – that Polish League began to pay even more and that made the riders to complain about GPs rates.

When it comes to expenses, Cegielski admits that they are huge, but like in everyday life there is always room to be more frugal. There is no need to book 5 star hotels for 3 days before an event, etc.,

No one knows the real reason for Emil’s withdrawal from the SGP, but if Cegielski had a choice he would do everything in his power not to give up and line up with other 15 riders to chase his ultimate dream.

[pandorum]

 

Yes we do, as they WERE faced with huge costs and minimal rewards.

 

The rewards came from being World Champion and the ensuing sponsorship afterwards.

 

Seems we're being led to believe some of these top guys are paupers..

No we don't as we are not them.

We have no idea at all what they would do if they were in the SGP and faced with these situations.

 

You speak for yourself like the rest of us and anything you say is simply opionion just like anyone else.

If you think the costs then are comparable to the cost now and that the way the WC operated similar then that's fine but I disagree.

 

And the lads are not paupers (and I never claimed they were just to be clear) but that does not mean they do this as a form of charity anymore than Mauger and Briggs did.

HAVEN'T actually seen his letter but understand the context centres around his fitness ... or rather lack of it.

 

And you believed that?

[Humphrey Appleby]

If you think the costs then are comparable to the cost now and that the way the WC operated similar then that's fine but I disagree.

The old World Championship meant 4 or 5 meetings, most of which were usually in your own backyard and only once was the final held outside of Europe. The SGP is clearly a much bigger commitment.

[pandorum]

The old World Championship meant 4 or 5 meetings, most of which were usually in your own backyard and only once was the final held outside of Europe. The SGP is clearly a much bigger commitment.

Which is blindingly obvious to nearly everybody