george.m Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Something not right here. Very talented rider, very marketable and no cash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Do you know he is in financial difficulties? Not being paid an amount last season doesn't mean he is in financial difficulties this. We've already been informed he upgraded his entire teams flights to New Zealand.. not a sign of someone in financial difficulty. I trust we won't be seeing him racing in the upcoming Pairs event due to his 'injuries' and 'financial difficulties'. No not for certain, we know he is owed a considerable sum of money and he has said finances are a problem at the moment. Knowing he is riding for a team owned by the person running a series alongside the World Championships isn't the same as knowing that he has had pressure put on him not to compete either. In fact I would have thought having the riders at the top of the World Championship chase riding for your club and in your individual series would be beneficial to the gates. Racing in a one off event or even a small series can't be compared to the investment needed to compete in a World Championship GP series so it's irrelevant whether he does or not. The only thing we do know for sure is that you are guessing just as much as I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 No not for certain, we know he is owed a considerable sum of money and he has said finances are a problem at the moment. Knowing he is riding for a team owned by the person running a series alongside the World Championships isn't the same as knowing that he has had pressure put on him not to compete either. In fact I would have thought having the riders at the top of the World Championship chase riding for your club and in your individual series would be beneficial to the gates. Racing in a one off event or even a small series can't be compared to the investment needed to compete in a World Championship GP series so it's irrelevant whether he does or not. The only thing we do know for sure is that you are guessing just as much as I am. What is blatantly clear is despite things staring them in the face a few people remain blissfully unaware of the power struggle that is taking place in the sport at the moment. This is a game of politics. Your theories are quite simply contradictory. If Torun felt it was beneficiary to them to have Emil riding in the World Championship he would be, it's really that simple. They call the tune, just as they did last year when they threw their toys out of the pram and refused to race in the play-off final 2nd leg. We can expect to see Sayfutdinov riding sub standard machinery in the up coming pairs event then I assume according to your theory? It also seems to have escaped your attention that the pairs is no longer a 'one off event', it has now grown to 3 rounds. The European Championship to 4 rounds and no doubt they plan to grow it further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I can only apologise for being so stupid and having the lack of understanding in depth of Polish Speedway that you do being an insider. How it escaped my attention that the pairs and European Championships combine to make a total of just over half the meetings of the GP series I have no idea. I can now see how the Pairs event you mentioned would need the same input as a full GP series. I can only thank you for enlightening me. But you're still only guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 good news for Woffy.... Only major challengers to him this year are Darcy Ward and Chris Holder - Maybe Jarek Hampel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Ok Vince, Let's play along and for a moment let's pretend that Emil really is withdrawing from the GP series due to financial problems. This is something he would be aware of, without a doubt and would have been aware of for some time. Can you point me towards any pleas from Emil for sponsorship? Surely if he felt his World Championship hopes would be in doubt he would have said as much.. "I may not be able to compete this year due to lack of sponsorship"... you know.. attempt to actually gain more? Given his financial plight, of which he would be fully aware of, why would he upgrade his entire teams flights to New Zealand? Ashley Holloway has also offered to drive and work for free for the entire season also... again falling on deaf ears. The notion of his withdrawal being because he can't afford it is, quite simply nonsensical. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Ok Vince, Let's play along and for a moment let's pretend that Emil really is withdrawing from the GP series due to financial problems. This is something he would be aware of, without a doubt and would have been aware of for some time. Can you point me towards any pleas from Emil for sponsorship? Surely if he felt his World Championship hopes would be in doubt he would have said as much.. "I may not be able to compete this year due to lack of sponsorship"... you know.. attempt to actually gain more? Possibly he had one in the pipeline that withdrew at the last minute. I have no idea and that's the whole point I made assumptions based on very little, same as you did. Given his financial plight, of which he would be fully aware of, why would he upgrade his entire teams flights to New Zealand? Did he personally pay for the upgrade? Was it part of some other deal. No idea but it fits your argument! Ashley Holloway has also offered to drive and work for free for the entire season also... again falling on deaf ears. I am sure that would be an excellent saving, whether it would be enough to make a GP campaign at the top level viable neither of us have any idea. The notion of his withdrawal being because he can't afford it is, quite simply nonsensical. The notion of his withdrawing from a season long campaign because he feels he cant do it justice whether that be financially or because of his fitness is no more nonsensical than the idea that he would allow himself to be used as a pawn in a political disagreement. The nonsensical thing is having a whole debate and declaring that others are blind when your argument is based on supposition and guesswork.....same as mine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Actually i know of someone who was seeking and was successful with getting (i think )two sponsors in Russia for Emil.I have no idea of how big the sponsors were and i din't ask as the conversation was more about doing thankless work for riders.As it happens the person was a day or so after telling me this,thanked by Emil...... That doesn't really change anything though as i am sure people often try and help out with sponsorship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Can you point me towards any pleas from Emil for sponsorship? Surely if he felt his World Championship hopes would be in doubt he would have said as much.. "I may not be able to compete this year due to lack of sponsorship"... you know.. attempt to actually gain more? You always appear as somebody who knows it all. No if, no buts... If you knew as much as you pretend that you do then you would know that as early as last November Emil is quoted as saying: I do not know whether I will be riding in the 2014 GP. Riding in the SGP costs a lot and there is no profit. I am at the stage of constructing my budget. So far it was based on a local Polish companies whom I thank very much. However, there is no support from Russia. Western riders after winning titles sign a lucrative deals. And I? I do not even have a contract with a club in Russia. I won four world championship rounds and nothing happened. Until now, there is no response. Seriously ?, I am considering withdrawing from competing in the Grand Prix. To be in the forefront of the world title competition there is a need for a lot of money, which at the moment I have not. I'm only interested in the chase for the world title , not riding in the middle of the pack. And without financial backup I cannot do what I want to do. it appears that English speaking fans knows little about it, but there you go. What is the International section of the SS for? You tell me. At the end of the same month last year Emil gone into trouble of meeting with the head of the Russian Motorcycling Federation They were discussing Federation’s assistance to the Russia World Cup Team, as well as financial support to any Russian riders competing in the Individual Speedway Grand Prix. The Head of Motorcycling Federation assured Sayfutdinov that he would try to find appropriate resources for the World Cup Team. Additionally, Sajfutdinow was told that he might be also found a commercial sponsor to race in the Grand Prix. By the end of December last year The Ural Company was declaring its support for Emil, but the Kuibyshevazot Company, so far, has not declared anything. As you no doubt will recall, last season the Russian World Cup leaders pulled out of the semi-finals in Czestochowa, because of lack of support from their own Federation. So when you say something make sure that there is some clout behind it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ASHTECH Posted March 11, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Hi guys. Very rarely do i write on here but as my name has been mentioned a couple of times and i think it's a good idea to pass on some info. When I heard about this idea Emil wanted to pull out the GP, I never really understood the reasons let alone agree with them. I am still to this day disappointed with the decision. Personally I have worked my socks off for the whole team and Emil is more or less part of the family, so you can believe me when I say i was massively disappointed when he made the decision. I did everything that I could to try to keep him in the series. I offered for my services if it meant keeping him in but unfortunately it was not to be. As one of Emil's main advisors I felt it was necessary to let people know that i didn't agree with him and he knows that. Do I understand his decision ? To a certain extent yes I do. The main facts are his rehab has been hampered by the fact that he might not receive his salary from his polish club last year. Most of us know the stress that comes with money problems but Is that an excuse to pull out the SGP though? For me it's not but it's his life and if he feels it's right for him I think we should all respect his decision. All the best, Ash Holloway 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) > ... Emil's withdrawal might have more to do with his manager Susi than the rider himself. Indeed... it might... a big MIGHT. Emil Sajfutdinow is no hiding the fact that his career breakthrough happened when he establish cooperation with Tomasz Suskiewicz . - To have him in my team , I would be ready to ride for free Emil said in Jan.2014 for the Polish media. I first met Tomasz in 2004, when he was with Tony Rickarsson and they both came to Gniezno to test some engines. I happened to be there with my Russian team for pre-season practice session. I immediately noticed great professionalism both in Tony’s and Tomasz’s actions. I liked their cooperation in the pits , as well as mutual respect they had for each other. I thought to myself , that if I ever rode at such a high level, I will try to build around myself a team, in which Tomasz would be a part.. When I heard that Rickardsson was finishing his career , and " Susi " intends to remain in speedway I thought that this was a chance to convince him to work with me. I felt that thanks to him I could take a step forward in my career. I met with him again in November 2006. It was then when our collaboration began, of which I'm very pleased. 'Susi' was present during all my successes on the international arena, which would probably not happened if he was not with me. Perhaps I would reach certain level but it would take much, much longer. With 'Susi' at my side it was a lot easier. Susi speaks very good English and has a lot of contacts in the western world. In addition he has a high technical knowledge and is able to advise me on changing the settings during the matches. It is never so that "Susi" is taking decision. When it comes to settings and other things we always discuss things together. Apart from that engine tuners also played significant role in developing my career. The Englishman, Ashley Holloway, who is based just outside Bydgoszcz, has been with me since the beginning of my international career. I trust him most because I see that he puts into my engines everything he’s got. He may not have as much experience as other tuners, but every year he’s developing his skills and acquires a new machine. He has an access to large companies producing parts and more and more speedway riders work with him. Most important, however, is that he always has time to do my engines and I do not have wait in queues to get everything ready. This came from the lion's mouth - so judge for yourself whether Susi is good for Emil or not. Edited March 11, 2014 by PolskiZuzel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 That backs up what Phil and it seems Darcy Ward were suggesting.. so not quite sure why it's a BIG might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 You always appear as somebody who knows it all. No if, no buts... If you knew as much as you pretend that you do then you would know that as early as last November Emil is quoted as saying: I do not know whether I will be riding in the 2014 GP. Riding in the SGP costs a lot and there is no profit. The most telling words on the entire thread IMO. Don't blame him personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 The most telling words on the entire thread IMO. Don't blame him personally. Yep, no profit. Most World Champions are broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Can understand the thoughts of Emil for not taking part but it's going to be a bit less entertaining without one of the best racers in the world. Injuries from last season seem to be one major factor and the fact he is owed a reported (not officially) over half a million from last season, he is probably going to spend a year with less meetings but at places he knows he will get paid and at Torun he knows he will get that. The money on offer in the SEC is much better than the money in the GP's so by winning the SEC he can earn more than he would in the GP's and also has a home round but hopefully something can be sorted in the future so one of the top riders of the current era can compete for the World Title which he can win when fully fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 The money on offer in the SEC is much better than the money in the GP's so by winning the SEC he can earn more than he would in the GP's and also has a home round but hopefully something can be sorted in the future so one of the top riders of the current era can compete for the World Title which he can win when fully fit. No it's not. No, no, no, no. If you score a maximum in the SEC the money is more but only by a tiny amount. Frankly, if that small amount of money makes a difference to Emil then I feel for the guy, he's living in poverty. Who'd be a speedway rider eh?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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