theflyingkiwi Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 In my opinion once a rider has ridden for one country that should be it. The fact that the licence you ride under is the determinant of what nationality you can ride for is a joke. Once you have represented a country at any International meeting should mean that you can only ever represent that country. However Speedway has never seemed to have a logical set of rules to follow has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/3165/british-switch-for-schlein  Personally I think this is about personal gain, as I says about Germany and the GP qualifiers but I certainly would be pleased if Rory decided to get outings for TeamGB. It's not like this hasn't happened in the past with some World class Australian's and New Zealander's.  Personally, I think he could help drive up the standard of our British lads as it becomes more difficult for them to then get it.  Right now we have Woffy & Bomber, after that the quality is much of a muchness. Cook, Barker, Worrall, Bridger etc there isn't much between them. Including Rory will upset some but that means with the Brits they'd have to up their game.  Thought's? I wonder who will be next!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 In my opinion once a rider has ridden for one country that should be it. The fact that the licence you ride under is the determinant of what nationality you can ride for is a joke. Once you have represented a country at any International meeting should mean that you can only ever represent that country. However Speedway has never seemed to have a logical set of rules to follow has it? Which is different to most other sports where they change nationality, some at the drop of a hat. I am not saying that that should happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 In my opinion once a rider has ridden for one country that should be it. The fact that the licence you ride under is the determinant of what nationality you can ride for is a joke. Once you have represented a country at any International meeting should mean that you can only ever represent that country. However Speedway has never seemed to have a logical set of rules to follow has it? Think it has already been explained that it isn't the licence that determines the nationality.Kylmäkorpi i am sure rode with a Swedish licence last year but is still Finnish and although i haven't seen any pics from his Longtrack win i would bet he had a Finnish flag.At least he told me himself he would ride with a Swedish licence,but still under the Finnish flag......there are plenty more examples.Laguta for instance.  Not a fan of Schlein and wouldn't want him taking a place from a British rider even if they weren't as good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Get him in the team and have SWC Final at Swindon it goes to a 4 way dead heat so a run off to decide RooBoy gives Darcy Ward who surprisingly makes a lightening gate Dirty Nicki and Jarek Hampel a headstart on the last lap he bounces of the fence on the exit of the 2nd bend dives in Peter Carr style under JH and DW and bravely goes round DNP to win TeamGB the SWC And then you woke up. You have as much chance of holding a speedway world cup final as i have of becoming speedway world champion.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 And then you woke up. You have as much chance of holding a speedway world cup final as i have of becoming speedway world champion.. (1) I'm not a moonraker (2) If, and its a big if, you took off your blue tinted Poole spec's you would know that there's a big world out there away from the southcoast,some places even have speedway tracks you can race on,the one at Swindon is one which seems to bring out the best in Rooboy. (3) Personally i don't think he should be able to ride for TeamGB but speedways a quirky sport with many a silly rule, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Think it has already been explained that it isn't the licence that determines the nationality.Kylmäkorpi i am sure rode with a Swedish licence last year but is still Finnish and although i haven't seen any pics from his Longtrack win i would bet he had a Finnish flag.At least he told me himself he would ride with a Swedish licence,but still under the Finnish flag......there are plenty more examples.Laguta for instance.  Not a fan of Schlein and wouldn't want him taking a place from a British rider even if they weren't as good   Correct.  In individual world championship events you race under the flag of the federation that issues your race license  In team word championships you race under the flag of the country who issues your passport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ren Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I personally wouldn't want him in the team..... Rather give Worrall & Cook a chance. Â Is Schlein really that good? Apart from a good year at Belle Vue he's hardly set the Elite alite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Think its a no brainer. He is an Aussie full stop. The closest he should get to team GB is either on the other side of the pits or in the grandstand. Â Well said, perfectly put. 100% Aussie who i hope stays that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 He has already ridden for Australia so should be allowed to ride for GB. Nothing personal but he made his choice by birth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehammer Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 He has already ridden for Australia so should be allowed to ride for GB. Nothing personal but he made his choice by birth. Â I'm guessing you meant to say shouldn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Has he not raced for Australia in any previous years qualifiers ? Â Â Personally I feel that you are what you are and as he has ridden as an Australian in FIM events before, he should stay Australian. Had he have had the choice at the start of his career to represent a different country then thats when it should have been decided and not now when he knows he is unlikely to feature in any Australian team. Â Â Maybe it's just me being old school but I have family history from Switzerland via Germany and even a Great Great Grandmother from USA but I would only ever think of myself as English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Think it has already been explained that it isn't the licence that determines the nationality.Kylmäkorpi i am sure rode with a Swedish licence last year but is still Finnish and although i haven't seen any pics from his Longtrack win i would bet he had a Finnish flag.At least he told me himself he would ride with a Swedish licence,but still under the Finnish flag......there are plenty more examples.Laguta for instance.  Not a fan of Schlein and wouldn't want him taking a place from a British rider even if they weren't as good Regarding Kylmäkorpi and licenses it's Swedish->Finnish->Swedish license. He is also a former Swe U21 champ and I would guess that he has a dual citizenship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Regarding Kylmäkorpi and licenses it's Swedish->Finnish->Swedish license. He is also a former Swe U21 champ and I would guess that he has a dual citizenship. Yes,but that doesn't alter what i was pointing out.That Joonas wasn't classed as Swedish just because he held a Swedish licence although he could ride as a Swede because of his citizenship.He has been riding as a Finn with or without a Finnish licence.  Do wonder though, how often he could swap back and forth as i think he was listed in the preliminary Swedish SWC squad.Think at least in this respect football seem to have got it right and won't allow swapping around Edited March 4, 2014 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Agree, but football does now allow some swapping. Rory fallon represented england at age group level, but was then allowed to represent the all whites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cj69 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Hes not said he want to represent UK (unless i missed that somewhere) so what we all getting in a fuss about. Lets save it till we know more, but thats never stopped anyone on the bsf before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Hes not said he want to represent UK (unless i missed that somewhere) so what we all getting in a fuss about. Lets save it till we know more, but thats never stopped anyone on the bsf before? Â He isn't even able to represent the team GB, like I said it is the passport that counts. It appears he is applying for an ACU license rather than the MA one. Â He no doubt has no desire or intention to represent team GB, its just an ill informed article the people seem to be running with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Beggars can't be choosers so of course it's fine if Rory discovered he was an Australian with an Englishman desperately trying to get out. Has anyone checked Eddie Kennet is not really Albanian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Agree, but football does now allow some swapping. Rory fallon represented england at age group level, but was then allowed to represent the all whites. Football has always allowed some swapping up to a certain age or level i think.But at around U21 level you have to choose and are stuck with your choice.Had some tugs of war in Germany in the past year or so.One quite recently with a young Turkish/German player,who ended up choosing Turkey.I think that is quite reasonable if you qualify to play for a couple of countries to wait until you are no longer classed as a youth.  In the case of Kylmäkorpi he gets the best of both worlds.His Swedish licence help him in the Swedish leagues and his fyling the Finnish flag helps him with a home Longtrack GP and now most probably the wc in the Finnish speedway GP.Obviously if he is after a SWC medal then he would need to ride for Sweden.But it would be crazy if he could choose to ride for Sweden one year and then Finland the next and maybe swap back again..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 yep, ryan giggs played for england Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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