Sounds Like Bad News For West Row

[Ray Stadia]

A mini-snag here if that's a road to go down - losing one of the motor sports at West Row. The stadium is owned by the stock car company.

Where's that representative body that was set up to look after speedway?

Regarding the top line Gustix, I was merely giving an opinion as to why the couple may have a case in the eyes of the supreme court. i.e. when they moved in, activity was low, but then got stepped up. From the couples point of view, they say, moved in when speedway was run on a Sunday afternoon, they could cope with that, then, say stocks start on say a Friday night, which were not there previously. Possibly, the couple would have a case. It's like moving next to a pub and they have live music every Friday night, have done for donkeys years. Manager decides to have live music on Sunday nights as well, those in the area would probably have a case to get, at least, the Sunday live music stopped.

[Halifaxtiger]

There is one further sad twist of the knife should this couple ultimately get their way.

 

When they rebuild the house it will likely take at least 6 months of constant noise and nuisance.

 

Lorries,mechanical mixers,sawing ,hammering etc etc

 

Thats about 1000 hours at 8 hours a day 5 days a week of noise and nuisance to rebuild their house.

 

Or in context about 20 SEASONS of speedway!!

 

I have to say I can't see them moving back in. I have little doubt that their claims of intimidation were true, so going back there probably isn't a good idea.

 

 

its a bit like me buying a house by the beach, then asking for the tide to be stopped, as the sea crashing against the rocks at night keeps me awake,,, then asking that all the fish are removed, because I don't like fish,,, this world is one big bowl of soup :-(

 

 

Its exactly like that.

 

 

 

Very similar to Romford as well. Although to be fair the objector did live there prior to speedway he was virtually a loan voice campaigning against it and he still won only to move away not long after

 

I think that's very different. If you already live there, then you have a right to complain. If you move in next to it, you don't.

 

I personally do not believe this case will set a precedent for other situations, including other tracks. There has to be a point that we are missing, for the supreme court to find in the couples favour. Maybe, when the couple moved in, the track was not operating? Mildenhall Speedway have been open and closed a few times. Or when they moved in, perhaps, the stadiums activities were at a tolerable level for the couple to accept, but due to stock cars, MX and speedway, the activity has increased and for the couple, it has become unacceptable. If this is the case, it does put a slightly different slant on the situation.

 

Moved in 2006, Ray. Speedway, stocks, greyhounds, MX were all running at that time and had been for some years.

 

In truth, I think their grouse was more against the stocks than the speedway.

 

 

Because English law is ridiculous, bizarre and flies in the face of common sense, reason, logic and responsibility.

 

The law is clear - it gives equal rights to those idiots who move next to a speedway track (in effect inviting the noise into their lives) as it does to those who have a noise imposed on them.

 

The supreme court has made it clear that the issue of who was there first, and who knew what about the local area, doesn't even enter into it.

 

Not always, The Court of Appeal decision reflected exactly what every poster on this thread - and probably most unbiased people - would think.

[TonyOfBrum]

Not always, The Court of Appeal decision reflected exactly what every poster on this thread - and probably most unbiased people - would think.

 

 

That's true. But now the highest court in the country has said that all of us, including the appeal judge, are wrong. It may have set a precedent that doesn't bear thinking about.

[salty]

Just proves that the law is an ass! Would love to see the couple's surveyors report from when they bought the house - surely that would be a crucial factor in determining what their level of knowledge was prior to moving in?

 

I think we all agree that this Supreme Court judgement is a nonsense, but what is the next step in the process? Can the stadium owners appeal this decision? More crucially can they afford to?

[The White Knight]

 

Might be.

I find it sad and annoying that in towns and cities, sports like speedway are banned due to new neighbours on new estates like the ones surrounding Edinburgh Speedway. It's on peoples doorsteps, and can be termed a local facility. Instead protestors get tracks closed down, and new speedways have to be built in the countryside, and followers then have to have a means of travel to the new venue. Like this case and IOW, someone down a valley or some distance away can hear some noise and then try to get the out of town venue closed down.

Why doesn't football grounds, in or near towns, get closed down for an even greater nuisance of traffic, noise, smell, and of course 'excitement'.

 

MONEY!!!!!

 

A mini-snag here if that's a road to go down - losing one of the motor sports at West Row. The stadium is owned by the stock car company.

Where's that representative body that was set up to look after speedway?

 

Precisely gustix - where is that Speedway friendly group of MPs when you need them?

Edited February 28, 2014 by The White Knight

[Tsunami]

 

MONEY!!!!!

 

 

Precisely gustix - where is that Speedway friendly group of MPs when you need them?

 

Before anybody sets up a hanging squad, I am informed they have been told about it. OK.

[The White Knight]

 

Before anybody sets up a hanging squad, I am informed they have been told about it. OK.

 

Wasn't going to hang anyone - but - let's just hope that they actually DO something about it.

 

I will be the first to praise them if they do.

[Ray Stadia]

 

Before anybody sets up a hanging squad, I am informed they have been told about it. OK.

Is that the group of MP's headed up by George Galloway, who will not only stand in the corner of Odsal, apparently not his constituency, but will also stand in the corner of Mildenhall! (also not his constituency, allegedly).

[Tsunami]

Is that the group of MP's headed up by George Galloway, who will not only stand in the corner of Odsal, apparently not his constituency, but will also stand in the corner of Mildenhall! (also not his constituency, allegedly).

NO.

[Ray Stadia]

NO.

William Hague?

[manchesterpaul]

Its the people who complain who make all the noise, who are tolerant say nothing, but are in the majority, it is time the pro lobby was heard, sheer weight of numbers will succeed !

 

As someone heavily involved in Human Rights and similar fields for many years i've always found passive observers to be a big a cause of defeat as the actual 'enemy'. Sadly it permeates society deeply.

[The Pedaler]

The law is clear - it gives equal rights to those idiots who move next to a speedway track (in effect inviting the noise into their lives) as it does to those who have a noise imposed on them.

 

Indeed it is, which is why in certain inner city areas you won't hear church bells ringing on Sunday mornings any more, due to non-Christians moving into the area and succeeding with their objections about the noise.

 

Why should speedway be any different?

[The White Knight]

 

Indeed it is, which is why in certain inner city areas you won't hear church bells ringing on Sunday mornings any more, due to non-Christians moving into the area and succeeding with their objections about the noise.

 

Why should speedway be any different?

 

Don't get me started. :mad:

[Ray Stadia]

 

Indeed it is, which is why in certain inner city areas you won't hear church bells ringing on Sunday mornings any more, due to non-Christians moving into the area and succeeding with their objections about the noise.

 

Why should speedway be any different?

With respect, that sounds like a myth to me rather than fact. Probably put about by UKIP!

[The White Knight]

With respect, that sounds like a myth to me rather than fact. Probably put about by UKIP!

 

I'm sure there was something on the News about this a couple of years ago. There HAD been complaints from people about Bell Ringing in a Village in the South somewhere - I can't remember the exact details though.

[Ray Stadia]

 

I'm sure there was something on the News about this a couple of years ago. There HAD been complaints from people about Bell Ringing in a Village in the South somewhere - I can't remember the exact details though.

Perhaps it's a church, near Mildenhall Stadium?

[The White Knight]

Just found this Link:

 

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/316540/Time-called-on-noisy-church-bells

 

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/9954314.Ding_dong_over_loud_church_bells/

 

.................... and this one which is like a red rag to a bull with me:

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a84_1256916486

 

So it isn't only Speedway that suffers from Nimbys - sadly they are all over the place.

 

Finally - this is well worth a read to demonstrate how Christian Churches are coming under pressure in a 'Christian' Country:

 

http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/2011/04/will-church-bells-become-illegal.html

 

All of this is totally wrong - as is folk moving next to a Speedway Track and then moaning about it.

Edited March 1, 2014 by The White Knight

[therefused]

Just found this Link:

 

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/316540/Time-called-on-noisy-church-bells

 

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/9954314.Ding_dong_over_loud_church_bells/

 

.................... and this one which is like a red rag to a bull with me:

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a84_1256916486

 

So it isn't only Speedway that suffers from Nimbys - sadly they are all over the place.

 

Finally - this is well worth a read to demonstrate how Christian Churches are coming under pressure in a 'Christian' Country:

 

http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/2011/04/will-church-bells-become-illegal.html

 

All of this is totally wrong - as is folk moving next to a Speedway Track and then moaning about it.

Were not a Christian country.

[The White Knight]

Were not a Christian country.

 

 

Without going in to it on this Thread - we ARE supposed to be.

[Ray Stadia]

Just found this Link:

 

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/316540/Time-called-on-noisy-church-bells

 

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/9954314.Ding_dong_over_loud_church_bells/

 

.................... and this one which is like a red rag to a bull with me:

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a84_1256916486

 

So it isn't only Speedway that suffers from Nimbys - sadly they are all over the place.

 

Finally - this is well worth a read to demonstrate how Christian Churches are coming under pressure in a 'Christian' Country:

 

http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/2011/04/will-church-bells-become-illegal.html

 

All of this is totally wrong - as is folk moving next to a Speedway Track and then moaning about it.

The silencing of the church bells is for them to stop between 11 pm and 7 am, which is sort of fair. However, due to fact they are activated automatically, they can't be switched off between that time. Therefore, it is really a technical issue. The other complaint about the church worshippers playing loud music during sermons is not necessarily the guy being difficult because he is a Muslim, it might be flipping loud! All they need to do is keep the noise down a bit.

 

What is interesting, is I think there is a missing part to the Mildenhall story. I wonder if the supreme court are not expecting the track to stop it's activities, but to reduce them. Which may not suit Mr Coventry if he needs to run all the activities to make money. Just being devils advocate.