EnglishRoundabout Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Will live long in the memory and a young 16 year old was completely gutted going home that night. Remember the Leicester fans banging on our coach windows in celebration. Is there a clip out there of this race? Still remember is quite vividly from 39 years ago. Ashby was too nice.....unfortunately! If he had the extra ounce of aggression he would have progressed further in the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Ashby was too nice.....unfortunately! If he had the extra ounce of aggression he would have progressed further in the sport. Remember he missed the start, hunted down Wilson and got up the inside of him down the back straight of lap 4 only to allow Wilson enough room to blast around the outside and win it by half a bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yep, remember it exactly that way..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbo Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I can't understand the negativity of some posters Marky B for example. When Sandhu purchased Brandon he wasan't a speedway fan he is a businessman, Coventry were in the doldrums the Ochiltree family wanted rid of the stadium. Sandhu bought, it during our problems with BSPA Sandhu supported the Bees, he made no secret that the stadium was for sale and promised that if and when it was sold he would build another track. The Stadium it appears has been sold to developers, what else would you expect him to do, he has come out and confirmed what he has said in the past, he could easily put two fingers up to the negative posters and gone. Give the man a chance and support Mick Horton and Sandhu in finding the land for a new track.Scunthorpe have built a new track as has Dave Hemsley at Leicester. This could be the start of something good give them both a chance and see what develops in the next 2/3 years. I hope I am right but we may see great things, Brandon is old, needs a load of money throwing at it, a new start could bring great things to Coventry and provide a good future for the sport of Speedway which is a far better possibility than the football club appear to be facing at the moment. Get behind Sandhu and Muck Horton and stop the back biting'. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I can't understand the negativity of some posters Marky B for example. When Sandhu purchased Brandon he wasan't a speedway fan he is a businessman, Coventry were in the doldrums the Ochiltree family wanted rid of the stadium. Sandhu bought, it during our problems with BSPA Sandhu supported the Bees, he made no secret that the stadium was for sale and promised that if and when it was sold he would build another track. The Stadium it appears has been sold to developers, what else would you expect him to do, he has come out and confirmed what he has said in the past, he could easily put two fingers up to the negative posters and gone. Give the man a chance and support Mick Horton and Sandhu in finding the land for a new track.Scunthorpe have built a new track as has Dave Hemsley at Leicester. This could be the start of something good give them both a chance and see what develops in the next 2/3 years. I hope I am right but we may see great things, Brandon is old, needs a load of money throwing at it, a new start could bring great things to Coventry and provide a good future for the sport of Speedway which is a far better possibility than the football club appear to be facing at the moment. Get behind Sandhu and Muck Horton and stop the back biting'. Spot on with this post, this could easily be good for the Bees as it could be bad. Pretty much every season we have rumours over the future of the stadium, it would be nice to have something more secure. Plenty of sites in and around Coventry that have land for some kind of development, Ryton and near the airport spring to mind aswell as the area near the Ricoh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 So where's the "many, many" you refer to? I think you will find I wasn't presenting the opposite view (although that is my view), I was merely pointing out the one-sidedness in your post and the ridiculing anyone who didn't agree with your "many, many" who happened to like your post (2 people when I just looked at the time of this post!!!!!!). I can complain at how things are run if that is my opinion but what I do not agree with is the way the two club owners went about it! So you see your argument is fatally flawed because you think there are only two points of view and that your point of view is the right one. I'm not ridiculing your point of view! PS It's 2-2 in terms of likes - how is that for your simple snapshot? What are you on about Steve O. The post in question is this one:- No, all hail Matt Ford who drove Sandhu out of the sport and as many said at the time could well have caused the demise of one of the sports biggest clubs. We may be approaching that point. All over petty jealousy. Which has 23 likes, to your 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 as an awaay fan, brandon was always my fav visiting track, the history behind the place is enormous, sad times for speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I can't understand the negativity of some posters Marky B for example. When Sandhu purchased Brandon he wasan't a speedway fan he is a businessman, Coventry were in the doldrums the Ochiltree family wanted rid of the stadium. Sandhu bought, it during our problems with BSPA Sandhu supported the Bees, he made no secret that the stadium was for sale and promised that if and when it was sold he would build another track. The Stadium it appears has been sold to developers, what else would you expect him to do, he has come out and confirmed what he has said in the past, he could easily put two fingers up to the negative posters and gone. Give the man a chance and support Mick Horton and Sandhu in finding the land for a new track.Scunthorpe have built a new track as has Dave Hemsley at Leicester. This could be the start of something good give them both a chance and see what develops in the next 2/3 years. I hope I am right but we may see great things, Brandon is old, needs a load of money throwing at it, a new start could bring great things to Coventry and provide a good future for the sport of Speedway which is a far better possibility than the football club appear to be facing at the moment. Get behind Sandhu and Muck Horton and stop the back biting'. I'm sure Leicester's new stadium took longer than 3 years to create from the research of possible sites until actually hosting its first meeting ... not so sure about Scunthorpe's timescale although it certainly wasn't built overnight. But the general speedway public's fear when hearing a famous stadium's going to be sold is based on plenty of track closures where new stadiums were at least on the agenda only for nothing to emerge ... in no particular order, Exeter, Reading and Milton Keynes soon spring to mind. Add on the gaps averaging around 20 years each between the previous and current versions of Birmingham, Leicester and Cradley(Dudley) plus a similar gap without anything new at Long Eaton and it's easy for anyone to be dubious about Avtar Sandhu's pledge to find the Bees a new home ... and that's as much to do with the logistics of creating a new venue rather than anything about the man himself. In hindsight, they did well on Teesside to have "only" 9 empty years between the end of Middlesbrough and the start of Redcar. But here's a radical solution to Coventry's plight that could bring the whole sport together to keep the Bees going ... as the delays drag on with securing planning permission for Belle Vue's new home (remember it was awarded last year's World Cup Final but clearly had to back down) and given Coventry's ideally-central location, maybe it's time (and more realistic) to aim for a National Speedway Stadium that's also a home track for the Bees rather than for the Aces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I cannot seem to find this anywhere else (and I have checked that it's not an oldie I have dredged up). http://www.coventrybees.co/news.php?extend.2577 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 THE news that Greyhounds has decided to close after tonights meeting came as a shock and it saddened me that they felt they could not continue to operate until the remaining three years on the lease lapsed. Harry and his team have worked extremely hard during the last few years to make Coventry Dogs a credible force within the greyhound racing world and deserved to have enjoyed the fruits of those labours. They asked me for an extension to the lease to guarantee a further five years which I was unable to offer due to the current negotiations for the sale of the Stadium as all I could contractually offer was the three year guarantee already in place which clearly was not enough. In terms of the other activities the Coventry Bees and Brisca F1 stock cars these are guaranteed to continue for the next three years regardless as to the ownership of the stadium and during those three years I will be trying to secure an alternative site for a new stadium in the Coventry area. All three sports have become something that I enjoy on a personal level and the respective fans have shown me a great deal of respect over the past twelve years as such I want to ensure we do everything we can to see these sports continue. I am giving my word that I will do everything I can to ensure we succeed and if anybody can help us to secure a suitable site in the Coventry area please get in touch with jeremyheaver@btinternet.com or by phone on 07872836640. In terms of the stadium site itself it will be sold and redeveloped its just a question as to when that redevelopment will take place. It will not take place for at least three seasons and that gives us time to find alternative sites for development into our new home. Once again I would like to praise Harry and his team for the efforts they made at Coventry Dogs and I hope both speedway and stock car fans are reassured that we are working towards a more solid future. A Sandhu . I cannot seem to find this anywhere else (and I have checked that it's not an oldie I have dredged up). http://www.coventrybees.co/news.php?extend.2577 Getting better Gustix getting better! wink 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) What are you on about Steve O. The post in question is this one:- Which has 23 likes, to your 2. On a Coventry thread - well theres a surprise!!!!! I cannot seem to find this anywhere else (and I have checked that it's not an oldie I have dredged up). http://www.coventrybees.co/news.php?extend.2577 Just a question - If Sandhu has sold/is about to sell the stadium, how can he make statements that 'motorsport is safe for 3 years' at Brandon? It won't be upto him, even if there's some sort of clause in the contract - that can always be bought out by the new owners if the developers are able - or want - to progress quickly!! I note that he has said he is to seek a new site for speedway, but giving an email and mobile number for people to contact him does not sound quite so proactive or professional as employing a specialist to locate a suitable space - and for people to contact them!! Maybe Mick Horton's future choices will include the 'Oxford Bees', or maybe even the 'Coventry Cheetahs'???? Edited February 23, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Who says Mr Sandhu isn't looking at sites? Just because he is asking could mean just that slight chance somebody knows something that gives us hope of a new home. It's easy to be all doom and gloom, but at least we are going to try and move rather than end up like other clubs with homes that are not running. I am keeping positive and we go with this idea and all work together and help and support Sandhu or we start collecting DVDs and we can in 5 yrs harp on about the past and how speedway was taken away from us. It's ours to let slip away at present and I for one don't want to see speedway in Coventry lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Who says Mr Sandhu isn't looking at sites? Just because he is asking could mean just that slight chance somebody knows something that gives us hope of a new home. It's easy to be all doom and gloom, but at least we are going to try and move rather than end up like other clubs with homes that are not running. I am keeping positive and we go with this idea and all work together and help and support Sandhu or we start collecting DVDs and we can in 5 yrs harp on about the past and how speedway was taken away from us. It's ours to let slip away at present and I for one don't want to see speedway in Coventry lost. Don't forget Skidder is working to different agenda than most of us. Edited February 23, 2014 by Dave Jones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Don't forget Skidder is working to different agenda than most of us. I don't think he is. He has made some valid points though. We all want Coventry to continue - even Poole fans but words are cheap. Let's hope Mr Sandhu is true to his word. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Don't forget Skidder is working to different agenda than most of us. Really?? What agenda is that then? Nobody wants to see any Speedway club under threat, but I do tend to doubt some speedway statements that can be easily questioned!! The following extract is from an article quoting Jeremy Heaver which appeared in the Coventry Telegraph in November 2012:: Jeremy Heaver, the stadium’s former head of operations and now stock car promoter at the venue, also insisted any sale would not affect the stadium’s tenants, including the speedway team, and stock car and greyhound racing. He said: “It’s for sale as freehold as an investment opportunity. If someone buys the freehold, in many years time when the lease has run out, you could redevelop, but there’s no need to be concerned because they are quite long leases – we’re talking tens of years each. “It’s a lot like buying the freehold on a block of flats – it does not make a difference to the people in the flats, it just means they have got a different landlord.” Mr Heaver added: “I think Mr Sandhu is just trying to gauge interest. So is it 2-3 years or 'tens of years each'?? Just questioning!! In all seriousness, Mr Sandhu ( or any other stadium owner in a similar position) has known about the possibility of a sale for some considerable time, so why wouldn't he already have in place a 'land specialist' to source a new site?? And why wouldn't he make that public?? Edited February 23, 2014 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) My understanding is that Brandon Stadium is a buffer between two local authorities and comes under Rugby Council. They have always been adamant that houses will not be built, otherwise they would be there already. The problem is that government offices overrule at times, and much will depend on the outcome of the next election. just reading that Brandon is under rugby council, maybe people should email the Mayor of Rugby for his support to keep it a speedway venue as he is a former speedway rider and rode at Brandon for Coventry it says,just a thought. Edited February 23, 2014 by robert72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbo Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I'm sure Mr Sanhu know what he is doing and saying, remember as I said before he could have put two fingers to the doubters and gone. He says that speedway/stock cars are safe for 2/3 years I'm sure he knows what is saying/doing let's get behind him, if he fails that's the time not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 You can't blame Sandhu tbf. I dont expect another site in Coventry either. At least the Champagne and fireworks from 2010 won't be wasted when the stadium is bulldozed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 If the developers don't get planning permission to build their houses will the stadium get bulldozed anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) If the developers don't get planning permission to build their houses will the stadium get bulldozed anyway? exactly there is (as we've seen before) the catch 22 scenario developing. Owner signals intention to sell and wants to find new land for stadium. Council says, you have a stadium and own the land, which we want to remain as a stadium, we don't want you anywhere else. Owner sells stadium and goes to council to ask for available land. Council says, you had a stadium, which we support and don't want houses, there is no land. You sold it to a developer who kicked out your team, not us. Developer flattens stadium and waits, team goes into permanent hiatus. Edited February 23, 2014 by Deano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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