pete cc Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 If a team has a rider missing do they still have r/r to use & will the national league reserves have to take these rides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 In the event that a national league rider is unable to ride his position will be offered to any member of the public who can provide proof of a recent cycling proficiency test 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) If a team has a rider missing do they still have r/r to use & will the national league reserves have to take these rides?Kind of. Before or during the meeting if a rider is missing it's the next above and all below in the averages that can take a ride.  If top or 2nd in averages, the remaining riders can replace these rides If 3rd in averages, 2nd and below can take a ride If 4th in averages, 3rd and below can take a ride  and so on  The only notible change from last season is R/R comes into force for a rider withdrawn from a meeting already started, removing the need for a No'8 rider Edited February 11, 2014 by screamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Kind of. Before or during the meeting if a rider is missing it's the next above and all below in the averages that can take a ride.  If top or 2nd in averages, the remaining riders can replace these rides If 3rd in averages, 2nd and below can take a ride If 4th in averages, 3rd and below can take a ride  and so on  The only notible change from last season is R/R comes into force for a rider withdrawn from a meeting already started, removing the need for a No'8 ride So if rider is having an off day could he just claim he is not fit, withdraw after his third ride let the rider above him in the averages take his fourth ride. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 So if rider is having an off day could he just claim he is not fit, withdraw after his third ride let the rider above him in the averages take his fourth ride. Â Yep. These were the rules some years back but was scrapped for the reason you mention. But (and rightly so imo) they see it as a lesser evil than having reserves taking heat leader rides which spoils the spectators experience. At least meetings should remain competitive throughout and that is what we all want at the end of the day isn't it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Sceamer, has this been confirmed anywhere ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Sceamer, has this been confirmed anywhere ? Was confirmed at the King's Lynn supporters meeting a couple of months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Is the rule just for the EL or for the PL as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 At least meetings should remain competitive throughout and that is what we all want at the end of the day isn't it? I'd rather see less competitive meetings than blatant cheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'd rather see less competitive meetings than blatant cheating Not a Poole supporter then  (couldn't resist) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Â Was confirmed at the King's Lynn supporters meeting a couple of months ago. Â Â I was at that meeting, it was spoken about, but I was under the impression that it COULD be the case, no way was it CONFIRMED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Â I was at that meeting, it was spoken about, but I was under the impression that it COULD be the case, no way was it CONFIRMED It was confirmed, they said that the only thing they were waiting on to dot the I's and cross the t's was which of the 2-3 race formats they'd go with. All the regulations are in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Â It was confirmed, they said that the only thing they were waiting on to dot the I's and cross the t's was which of the 2-3 race formats they'd go with. All the regulations are in place. Â Â Exactly !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
771neil Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I m told el teams have to start every meeting with 7 riders NO r/r before meeting started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 If one of the reserves are missing through injury or riding for their NL side then each team must use one of the riders not selected from the original draft. I.e if Max Clegg is riding for Cradley Leicester would have to use Dan Greenwood. Reserves can't guest for an EL side. Â Leicesters biggest problem is when their fixtures clash with Cradley because both their reserves Max Clegg & Tom Perry ride for the same team in NL. Which would mean DOUBLE guest at reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I read somewhere that if a rider got injured in his first ride only and could not continue he could be replaced by RR from that point and I think it was a promoter that said this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I m told el teams have to start every meeting with 7 riders NO r/r before meeting started 14 riders !!! Will there be enough room in the pits for these extra riders. And think about the increased mileage claims the promoters face from these extra riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I read somewhere that if a rider got injured in his first ride only and could not continue he could be replaced by RR from that point and I think it was a promoter that said this. Read the same but only if its your number 1 rider that gets injured so that its more competitive. Any other rider it is still reserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houdi Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) GRW123, on 12 Feb 2014 - 12:59 PM, said:GRW123, on 12 Feb 2014 - 12:59 PM, said: Â I was at that meeting, it was spoken about, but I was under the impression that it COULD be the case, no way was it CONFIRMED That is my understanding that no apparent final decision has yet been made. If they stick with the original ruling then for example if Peter Ljung was missing for Leicester 3 of his rides would have to be taken by Perry and Clegg. Not sure having races where these 2 basically juniors ending up having to face Iversen/Bjerre/Schlein will do a lot to enhance the sport. By having the reserves in protected races was an admission that they couldn't be expect to compete with the likes of Ward/Woffinden, so suddenly expecting them to take R/R rides would be nonsensical. Edited February 13, 2014 by houdi 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANANAMAN Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 That is my understanding that no apparent final decision has yet been made. If they stick with the original ruling then for example if Peter Ljung was missing for Leicester 3 of his rides would have to be taken by Perry and Clegg. Not sure having races where these 2 basically juniors ending up having to face Iversen/Bjerre/Schlein will do a lot to enhance the sport. By having the reserves in protected races was an admission that they couldn't be expect to compete with the likes of Ward/Woffinden, so suddenly expecting them to take R/R rides would be nonsensical. Our sport will no doubt blunder through this mess ............I think it was all written down on the back of a fag packet but the cleaner threw it in the bin when tidying up !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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