Arson fire Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Will BSkyB be offering discounted subscriptions for their SkySports packages that include speedway for the next 5 years to the elderly, disabled, disadvantaged or vulnerable? It seems from reading their web site that their pricing policy is somewhat different to the York Barbican Theatre. Is anyone going to criticise them for the morality of their position on the matter? As for the matter of free travel on buses, that's a matter of Government policy, paid for out of taxation, because they think that getting around is one of life's essentials. Speedway isn't one of life's essentials, it's a choice that the individual makes. It's very sad if the price of admission stops people from going as often as they would like, however it's also very sad for the people who work night shifts that they can't go either. Whilst arguing vociferously over who the compassion king is on here amongst people who can't do much to change the situation, has anyone written to Len Silver, Matt Ford, Jon Cook, Terry Russell, Alex Harkess, Alan Philips, David Gordon, etc etc, asking them to dig deeper into their pockets to subsidise the disadvantaged more...because they can afford it, can't they? Speedway is flush with cash, just waiting to be spent on spectators subsidies, isn't it? On another thread people are arguing that speedway is only worth a tenner, and that's for the able bodied adults. God knows where the clubs that have a 40%-50% aged and infirm supporter base will get their income from if everyone and their carers are supposed to get in on free or discounted admissions below that £10 mark. I'd love to know how some fans think that speedway will ever be made to pay with these ideas. Sad fact of life is that in these harsh times, it's not just the disadvantaged that can't afford everything that they want, but those who are trying to make a business out of speedway can't afford to hand out the subsidies that maybe in an ideal world they would want to. Sad but true. would sky sports charge extra for a carer to support the disabled person to watch then?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBKPCNBob Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Thanks for the reply guys/gals. Having just been diagnosed with Bi-Polar, I just wanted to know if I was entitled to any discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Will BSkyB be offering discounted subscriptions for their SkySports packages that include speedway for the next 5 years to the elderly, disabled, disadvantaged or vulnerable? It seems from reading their web site that their pricing policy is somewhat different to the York Barbican Theatre. Is anyone going to criticise them for the morality of their position on the matter? As for the matter of free travel on buses, that's a matter of Government policy, paid for out of taxation, because they think that getting around is one of life's essentials. Speedway isn't one of life's essentials, it's a choice that the individual makes. It's very sad if the price of admission stops people from going as often as they would like, however it's also very sad for the people who work night shifts that they can't go either. Whilst arguing vociferously over who the compassion king is on here amongst people who can't do much to change the situation, has anyone written to Len Silver, Matt Ford, Jon Cook, Terry Russell, Alex Harkess, Alan Philips, David Gordon, etc etc, asking them to dig deeper into their pockets to subsidise the disadvantaged more...because they can afford it, can't they? Speedway is flush with cash, just waiting to be spent on spectators subsidies, isn't it? On another thread people are arguing that speedway is only worth a tenner, and that's for the able bodied adults. God knows where the clubs that have a 40%-50% aged and infirm supporter base will get their income from if everyone and their carers are supposed to get in on free or discounted admissions below that £10 mark. I'd love to know how some fans think that speedway will ever be made to pay with these ideas. Sad fact of life is that in these harsh times, it's not just the disadvantaged that can't afford everything that they want, but those who are trying to make a business out of speedway can't afford to hand out the subsidies that maybe in an ideal world they would want to. Sad but true. You can normally judge a society on how they treat their disadvantaged citizens. Thankfully, the majority do not share your opinion these days.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Always makes me laugh when somebody insists the majority share their view - how could you possibly know that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Always makes me laugh when somebody insists the majority share their view - how could you possibly know that? Have you never heard of Disability allowance, Mobility schemes, Disabled parking, Disabled access etc etc. Is this not written in law by Parliament with the consensus of the people. That would suggest it has the backing of the majority, would it not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Always makes me laugh when somebody insists the majority share their view - how could you possibly know that? Because - if they don't - it is a VERY sad indictment of our Country. :angry: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Have you never heard of Disability allowance, Mobility schemes, Disabled parking, Disabled access etc etc. Is this not written in law by Parliament with the consensus of the people. That would suggest it has the backing of the majority, would it not... All but access are currently being ripped up by the nasty party and their monkey and the majority haven't got a clue! Those that have just swallow the propoganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Have you never heard of Disability allowance, Mobility schemes, Disabled parking, Disabled access etc etc. Is this not written in law by Parliament with the consensus of the people. That would suggest it has the backing of the majority, would it not... I have heard of all those things but that's not what his argument was in the post you quoted, in fact he made the point that taxation should cover essentials and therefore nobody is disputing any of the things you list. I would even argue that there absolutely should be a discount for disabled badge holders and a carer if they need one. You attributed something that wasn't there to two posts in short order yet profess to know the opinion of the majority with whom you have no contact, that's why it makes me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I feel extremely fortunate to be reasonably fit & healthy. Any help that can be given to anyone with disabilities & any carers would be welcomed by me. If that puts me in the minority, then its a sad world we now live in. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Come to Berwick! If notified in advance, stadium gates will be opened for wheelchair users who obviously cannot negotiate turnstiles. Once inside Shielfield, there is a special wheelchair area, on the first turn terracing, fully covered and raised to allow full view of track. No-one can stand in front of it to block sightlines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Why charge adults who take a kid? After all, without the adult the kid would not be there. You have the draw the line somewhere So would you charge Erik gunderson,Lawrence hare to name a few at full price or concession ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Have you never heard of Disability allowance, Mobility schemes, Disabled parking, Disabled access etc etc. Is this not written in law by Parliament with the consensus of the people. That would suggest it has the backing of the majority, would it not...when has any written law been passed with the consensus of the people? I certainly have never been asked if I want that law being passed or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a4poster Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Interestingly I am going Horse Racing next week when I would expect the crowd to be of a similar level to that of a average Elite League meeting and they afford a Disabled person to bring a Carer/Enabler for nothing as long as adequate proof is provided. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Interestingly I am going Horse Racing next week when I would expect the crowd to be of a similar level to that of a average Elite League meeting and they afford a Disabled person to bring a Carer/Enabler for nothing as long as adequate proof is provided. I thought All sporting places allow a carer free under some disabled rights ruling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Plymouth are due to open their newly constructed disabled/wheelchair/elevated viewing area on Friday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 <removed by mod> Possibly one of the most despicable attention seeking posts there`s been on here for a while. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Did you see the post? I wasn't irritated I was disgusted. Thankfully it was removed quite quickly. I have the idiot on ignore but sometimes his inane ramblings are quoted, which is why I saw it in this case. it was offensive on several levels. What I cannot understand is other FMs get bans/exclusions but this serial rule breaker just seems to be allowed free rein to break the rules. Wouldn't be so bad if he/she/it added anything to discussions. However I digress. Apologies for hijacking what is an important thread. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I was totally bewidered by the response I got from the Leicester managment this week. I went on Saturday night. The disabled veiwing is by the start line. The stadium is quite wheelchair friendly. If like me with week arms and can only move on flat ground. I can't get the view from the bens as that area has quite a slop at both ends. It was when I tried to get to the toilets that the trouble started. The stadium has paths of slabs as you come in and around the stands, to get to the toilet block, in my case the quick route, straight from the start line to the toilets is a no go as it is very large road stone and get get across it in my chair. I tried one way and it was by the food outlets and could not get people to make way I went the other way and this was as bad with people in the way, they just don't see you in a wheelchir, it is like you are invisible. Sad to say I failed to get to the toilets in time. I asked the management if it was possible to link the 2 path together from the start line to the toilets, as it could be easily done in a day and would only take around 15 maybe even less than that. The reply came back that they couldn't do this and had no plans in the future to do so. I was not the only one to ask for the same thing to be done and they had been given the same answer. All they said was that there are enough trained helper at hand and should ask one of those to push me to the toilets. Have they no repect of people who want to keep that last bit of independace they have left. It is a shame that a stadium as new as the Lions is never thought this out in the first place. It is also a shame they can't fork out a few pounds on a simple job to put in a few slabs to remidy the problem. I give tham the Golden idots gong of the week, for helping out disabled people. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Leicester, with its long walk between the carpark and the stadium, are introducing this weekend, a golf buggy service for those who find it difficult walking this distance. More on their website http://leicesterlions.co/ding-ding-all-aboard/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 This is the root of the problem isn't it. For example Spin Kings son needs a carer no question, but quite possibly by merely looking at him he would not appear to do so. Someone in a wheelchair on the other hand would probably be deemed to need a carer but I've observed several wheelchair users who quite happily attend speedway alone. Not all disabilities are visible. If the promoter, or their staff, question anyone as to their need for a carer I can just imagine the uproar - headlines in the papers discrimination against the disabled. This is one area where promoters have my sympathy, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. All I will say is well done to those promoters who do care and try to do their utmost to address the issue, whether it by concessions or providing facilites for the disabled. On a footnote and its merely an observation of mine, Lynn has pretty good facilites for the disabled fan and their carers. On looking around tho it seems the majority of wheelchair users do not use the parts of the stadium that have been adapted (when I've been there were 4-5 W/C users on the 3/4 bends where there is no ramp). the reason perhaps is because the section that is ramped (2nd bend) is populated by able bodied people who have a tendency (nah they always ) manage to move in front of the wheelchairs and block the view, despite being asked politely not to. So maybe it takes a bit of effort and thought from ALL of us to make life a bit more comfortable for all fans. It would be the same with us, youngest son (complex autistic and a myriad of other disabilities) would not look like he needs a carer but he cannot go anywhere on his own and receives disability benefits which match those needs. On the other hand, I have to use a wheelchair for anything longer than the shortest of walks and a crutch at all other times, so would appear to need a carer pretty all the time whereas, I only need one when I have the wheelchair as I cannot self propell. I have yet to go to Foxhall in my wheelchair, I struggle along with my crutch to my spot and then don't move for the rest of the night! Like Spin King's son, youngest is also not a lover of going to speedway (he liked the idea as wheels are involved but couldn't cope with the people/noise etc), I did try to take him for quite a while but the only place he felt 'safe' was at Peterborough with the big open space behind the back straight and in the end, I gave up as it was reaching nightmare proportions trying to watch and keep him calm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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